I'm sorry, but I have to challenge this. Reputable breeders that sell into show homes do so with the utmost of care. Your home would have been inspected, contracts would have been signed, etc.
Usually, when selling a dog that is to remain intact for a few years the "owner" (you) will remain a co-owner where the breeder retains all rights to the dog. Once the dog has completed its show career and it is altered, the ownership is signed over to you. This is done for a few reasons - the breeder is able to reap the rewards of keeping the dog on their books should it be successful, but also, it is a good way to keep tabs on dogs so they don't end up in these types of situations.
The fact that you payed "lots of cash" for a dog that has, for all intents and purposes, been signed over to you for you to do as you wish, indicates to me that this dog did not come from a reputable breeder and was not created for the show ring, but rather for the first ole sucker to show up with the dough. The fact that is has AKC papers and is of type means nothing in the show world.
If I'm wrong, then now would be the perfect time to contact your breeder. Responsible, reputable breeders will see that their stock remains healthy and safe. If you need financial assistance in order to keep this dog from having a litter this early, then your breeder is the person to contact. If nothing else, they'll take the dog back and see that it has all the medical care that is needed, and then find it a responsible forever home.
Usually, when selling a dog that is to remain intact for a few years the "owner" (you) will remain a co-owner where the breeder retains all rights to the dog. Once the dog has completed its show career and it is altered, the ownership is signed over to you. This is done for a few reasons - the breeder is able to reap the rewards of keeping the dog on their books should it be successful, but also, it is a good way to keep tabs on dogs so they don't end up in these types of situations.
The fact that you payed "lots of cash" for a dog that has, for all intents and purposes, been signed over to you for you to do as you wish, indicates to me that this dog did not come from a reputable breeder and was not created for the show ring, but rather for the first ole sucker to show up with the dough. The fact that is has AKC papers and is of type means nothing in the show world.
If I'm wrong, then now would be the perfect time to contact your breeder. Responsible, reputable breeders will see that their stock remains healthy and safe. If you need financial assistance in order to keep this dog from having a litter this early, then your breeder is the person to contact. If nothing else, they'll take the dog back and see that it has all the medical care that is needed, and then find it a responsible forever home.
Kami,
Please do stick around. Everyone here just wants the best for the dogs, so if we come off a little strong, just remember it's because we love the dogs! It sounds like you really want the best for the dog and I am sure you will do everything in your power as the minor to take care of her.
Spaying is the best option right now. I am sure once you get older and are able to take on the responsibilities alone, you will find a wonderful breeder and show prospect that you can love and be very successful with.
Please do stick around. Everyone here just wants the best for the dogs, so if we come off a little strong, just remember it's because we love the dogs! It sounds like you really want the best for the dog and I am sure you will do everything in your power as the minor to take care of her.
Spaying is the best option right now. I am sure once you get older and are able to take on the responsibilities alone, you will find a wonderful breeder and show prospect that you can love and be very successful with.
You can not show an altered dog or bitch in AKC conformation. They must be left intact unless they are being shown in the veteran class which is a class for seniors or retired champions. This is one of my favorite classes to watch - all the gray faces strutting their stuff around the ring one last time As far as the IABCA (International Dog Shows) here in the states I believe there is an altered class where you can show your dog/bitch even if he/she is neutered or spayed. It is hard for a judge to tell if a bitch has been spayed in most cases. They would really have to look for a scar or feel deep for the permanent steel sutures that are left behind. Therefor, it is more of an honor system that they go off of...
As far as the IABCA (International Dog Shows) here in the states I believe there is an altered class where you can show your dog/bitch even if he/she is neutered or spayed. It is hard for a judge to tell if a bitch has been spayed in most cases. They would really have to look for a scar or feel deep for the permanent steel sutures that are left behind. Therefor, it is more of an honor system that they go off of...Well, it just goes back to the original purpose behind showing dogs in conformation. Conformation shows were developed as an avenue where breeders could test their BREEDING stock against other breeders and compete for the best titles and points, to prove that they bred the best stock. Since this is what conformation showing was originally intended for, it doesn't make much sense to show spayed and neutered dogs because they are no longer breeding stock etc.
This has been interesting to me as a past breeder. Kami, all my litters were registered and of show quality. I also sold them at a healthy price only because I wasn't a BYB and a good home was #1. This included a fenced in yard and knowing it would be a house dog. If your " Dad" bought this as a show dog, he would be more concern about the pup. A " show dog" doesn't run loose, it's pampered and trimmed and taught from day one. I personally liked my pups to go to loving homes who didn't follow the "puff and fluff" rules. Homes were they were companion dogs, an addition to the family. I'm not knocking breeders who show... or breed to show. This is what keeps the standards and our beloved breeds going.
R
In order to show in AKC dog shows for Championship points, animals must be intact.
Can you circumvent the rules?
You bet. Neuticles. and yes, it's hard to tell with bitches.
You can find cheaters in any venue, but it is the rule that animals MUST be intact to show for Championship points in AKC dog shows.
Can you circumvent the rules?
You bet. Neuticles. and yes, it's hard to tell with bitches.
You can find cheaters in any venue, but it is the rule that animals MUST be intact to show for Championship points in AKC dog shows.
K
Well see when we got the dog, I thought eventually my "dad" would get her a dog run of some sort, but he still hasn't. I totally do not like the fact that she does run loose, and I go outside with her on a leash, but when it comes down to my "dad" letting her out, he just opens the door and she runs off! She does come back everytime, but sometimes she'll go down the street to my neighbors and bother them. One person was actually going to sue us for our dog scratching their baby. Which my dog wouldn't do that intentionally. She's a golden just a little too friendly is all. But I did talk to my "dad" and mentioned some of the things yall had said, and he said getting her spayed is probably the best thing to do. For showing, I will admit I need a little more expierence, but I'm willing to learn. I hope by joining local dog clubs, I can gain a little knowledge about working with show dogs and such. Oh btw, thanks yuckaduck & bubbatd. and yes I am a very responsible dog owner, I just dont think that my parents see that. And believe me my dog IS pampered!!! lol she is soo spoiled! But I do love her to death and I just want whats best for her.
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I do agree that the term show dog should be used losely just because a dog is regestered or comes from good lines does not mean it will be a ch in the ring, what were your first plans when you got the dog, what sort of lines does she come from, I agree that spaying sounds right for her now, and you can still do some work with her so that when you have more experence you can look into getting a dog for showing
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Well something is better than nothing, when showing a dog you have to be prepared to put a lot of money in, they are the traveling costs to the shows the hotel fees, and show fees, also the health tests as it gets older are not cheep, its not just buying the dog, would you parents of paid for all this? if you have a dog that goes far its not right to only do the local shows because of lack of funds, some travel abroad! Just letting you know whats involved
OK heres my input-
As for bitches and unwanted litters, this is why I chose a male - should anything happen, it would fall on the owner of the bitch, not me. (legally you cant prove whos the daddy in dogs as a litter can have multiple fathers)
Secondly, go to the TSC and buy you a 10x10 kennel run, if your parents wont pay for it now, get you a job in April and save your paychecks for the kennel. Until then, that dog is NOT to be allowed out unsupervised for any reason and put her on a 6 ft. leash, no longer so you can ward off the studs on walks.
Lastly, you are young, conformation is a hard show ring to be in, like everyone else said said and reinstated, have her spayed and participate in handling-based shows such as obedience, agility or even AKC hunt tests (These are FUN! they even have a junior handlers class which I think you would really enjoy)
And lastly just Pugs said earlier, just because a dog is beautiful doesnt make it a show prospect, it has to conform to breed standards in terms of height (not much leeway), coat color, even teeth alignment.
And as for me leaving my male intact- I can handle having a responsible household. He is never off-leash in the public parks, he is not allowed to roam freely (unless he is on a long retrieve during training), he has a 10ftx30ft kennel, and I am currently working on constructing a full-length roofing for it, one for added security and for added comfort for the dog. (He has a dogloo that he uses for shelter, but I feel he should have more). But because he is too rambunctious to be a house dog he stays outside a majority of the time, therefore he stays in his kennel, which stays pad-locked when I am not nearby for his safety.
Use your youth to gain experience by possibly working under someone who currently shows conformation dogs.
Good luck,
dixie
As for bitches and unwanted litters, this is why I chose a male - should anything happen, it would fall on the owner of the bitch, not me. (legally you cant prove whos the daddy in dogs as a litter can have multiple fathers)
Secondly, go to the TSC and buy you a 10x10 kennel run, if your parents wont pay for it now, get you a job in April and save your paychecks for the kennel. Until then, that dog is NOT to be allowed out unsupervised for any reason and put her on a 6 ft. leash, no longer so you can ward off the studs on walks.
Lastly, you are young, conformation is a hard show ring to be in, like everyone else said said and reinstated, have her spayed and participate in handling-based shows such as obedience, agility or even AKC hunt tests (These are FUN! they even have a junior handlers class which I think you would really enjoy)
And lastly just Pugs said earlier, just because a dog is beautiful doesnt make it a show prospect, it has to conform to breed standards in terms of height (not much leeway), coat color, even teeth alignment.
And as for me leaving my male intact- I can handle having a responsible household. He is never off-leash in the public parks, he is not allowed to roam freely (unless he is on a long retrieve during training), he has a 10ftx30ft kennel, and I am currently working on constructing a full-length roofing for it, one for added security and for added comfort for the dog. (He has a dogloo that he uses for shelter, but I feel he should have more). But because he is too rambunctious to be a house dog he stays outside a majority of the time, therefore he stays in his kennel, which stays pad-locked when I am not nearby for his safety.
Use your youth to gain experience by possibly working under someone who currently shows conformation dogs.
Good luck,
dixie