Please explain the situation

[Zen Fox]

I haven't been here for awhile, but my pup, Ambur is doing well. She knows sit, down, and stand on command. But this topic isn't about her.

My step-mom's male papillon is strange. Whenever he's around her, he barks at everybody. If she's not around, though, he's the opposite. In fact, he shakes in fear from my brother and me. I don't know why: We've never done anything to him. Why is he so aggressive around her, but a wimp by himself? I hate that dog because it barks constantly as long as his *bi*ch* is around. lol. I think he's dominated her. Is he trying to dominate other people? Because if he is, a gentle stroke of my back hand will put him in his rightful place. I really don't want to be mean, but she doesn't train him and lets him dominate her and he's really, REALLY pissing me off.

My goal is to make it so that whenever I walk by, he'll sit in a submissive position even whn he's around her and not make a peep.

 

[oriondw]

Train him yourself. Take them both for walks, etc.


Get him to relax around her.

 

[minismom]

Hitting him will do no good!!!

 

[Zen Fox]

Hitting him will do no good!!!

I heard that if you wrestle and pin a dog, you show them you're dominant. I'd rather do this than actually train him because he's not my dog. And this dog is not the brightest compared to most other dogs. I'm also busy training my genious pup. He's got issues, she and her idiot husband have issues, and I'm the one annoyed. I don't want to walk him because I loathe him

Why does he bark only when he's around my step-mom and turn in to a little sissy that he truly is when left with other people?

 

[Brattina88]

Edit: I deleted this post on my own because I've decided that I'm in too crummy of a mood to post any good advice without being rude Sorry !!

 

[Rubylove]

Zen Fox, first of all, calm down. Your anger is not helping your situation. I know it's frustrating, but you'll have more success if you can start again from the beginning with a clean slate.

The dog cowers in fear around you because it knows you hate it. Dogs are masters at body language, and they also have incredible senses of smell and your emotions come across as hormone smells to them. It smells hatred and anger. No wonder it is weird around you. It feels safe when your mother is around, and so it responds to your body language and smells of hate and anger by barking at you. This dog is being a dog, it is not its fault that it hasn't been trained properly.

Rather than hating this poor animal, why don't you take the time to make it's life happier?? It is clearly miserable, and no one wants to help it. I would feel sorry for it, not `loathe' it.

The dog is confused, it has issues with dominance, it doesn't get any structured training or learning from it's owner, and then when you or your brother are around it's terrified because it fears you. And rightly so. It is obvious to other people when they are not liked, to dogs that is absolutely magnified 1000 percent.

You have stated a goal, and then you have stated that you're not willing to do anything to achieve that goal, because he's not your dog. Well, it's not going to happen on its own. Someone needs to take care of this poor pup, and if you have come here to ask for a quick fix, it ain't gonna happen.

You will get solid advice on how to help this dog, or perhaps educate your mother on how to help it, but you will not get anything if you rant and rave about how much you hate the dog, you want it to behave, but you're not prepared to do anything about it.

Dogs need to be taught, they behave like dogs, not like people. Being angry and frustrated is part and parcel of pet ownership, but the more you behave like this the less progress you will make. I have had times when I could rip my hair out and scream the house down with frustration and anger, so I just go somewhere else and have a little nervous breakdown on my own!!

A little story. When Ruby was a little puppy, Max and I had a HUGE fight right in front of her. She wet herself about five times until we realised what we were doing. They can't handle their own doggy emotions a lot of the time, how are they supposed to handle ours, too?

If you want help with this dog, you'll get it here, but you need to let us know that you are prepared to spend the time - even a little time - that will make all the difference to this poor unhappy dog's life.

PS - Do not EVER use the wrestle/submissive roll on this dog. It's confused enough already. If you want it to freak out and bite you, this is the way to make that happen. It will not work, and it will make the situation ten times worse than it already is.

 

[Saje]

That's excellent advice Ruby. I know my dogs love most people but anyone I don't like (most recently my landlord) is NOT welcome in the house. Part of it is my feelings towards him and the other part is his mannerisms.

 

[sparks19]

I heard that if you wrestle and pin a dog, you show them you're dominant. I'd rather do this than actually train him because he's not my dog. And this dog is not the brightest compared to most other dogs. I'm also busy training my genious pup. He's got issues, she and her idiot husband have issues, and I'm the one annoyed. I don't want to walk him because I loathe him

Why does he bark only when he's around my step-mom and turn in to a little sissy that he truly is when left with other people?

if you don't wish to spend any time with this dog and if you hate it so much than you should just not be around it at all. You "loathing" the dog and treating him badly because you are angry at your step mother isn't going to help. In fact it will likely end up with YOU getting the business end of a fearful dog. Put him into the Alpha roll if you really think that will help but do NOT come down on that dog when he bites you because he doesn't like what you are doing and he is scared. If you get bitten it is your own fault and I would hate for the poor dog to pay the price for your anger and hatred towards him. I just say stay as far away from that dog as you can. You will both be better off

 

[Zen Fox]

Rubylove, what you say makes sense and I'm *gasp* willing to teach this flea while covering my hatred with encouragement and pseudo love.

I have no idea how to get a dog to stop barking as much. You have to remember my step mom is overly protective of this dog and she'll be suspicious if I all of a sudden start hanging around her dog. Plus, the dog rarely comes close to me, which is smart on his part (until now since I'm going to shed my love on it).

What's the first step?

And Brattina88: You should be sorry. My God, control your temper!!! This should be a forum of advice and encouragement.

 

[Zen Fox]

if you don't wish to spend any time with this dog and if you hate it so much than you should just not be around it at all. You "loathing" the dog and treating him badly because you are angry at your step mother isn't going to help. In fact it will likely end up with YOU getting the business end of a fearful dog. Put him into the Alpha roll if you really think that will help but do NOT come down on that dog when he bites you because he doesn't like what you are doing and he is scared. If you get bitten it is your own fault and I would hate for the poor dog to pay the price for your anger and hatred towards him. I just say stay as far away from that dog as you can. You will both be better off

Well, that would be great advice if the dog wasn't in my house 24/7 always yapping. I'm guessing a five pound dogs' bites don't hurt, anyways. But, all this advice is useless since Rubylove is going to instruct me on how to teach this dog imposter to cut back on his yapping and growling.

 

[Zen Fox]

if you don't wish to spend any time with this dog and if you hate it so much than you should just not be around it at all. You "loathing" the dog and treating him badly because you are angry at your step mother isn't going to help. In fact it will likely end up with YOU getting the business end of a fearful dog. Put him into the Alpha roll if you really think that will help but do NOT come down on that dog when he bites you because he doesn't like what you are doing and he is scared. If you get bitten it is your own fault and I would hate for the poor dog to pay the price for your anger and hatred towards him. I just say stay as far away from that dog as you can. You will both be better off

Well, that would be great advice if the dog wasn't in my house 24/7 always yapping. I'm guessing a five pound dogs' bites don't hurt, anyways. But, all this advice is useless since Rubylove is going to instruct me on how to teach this dog imposter to cut back on his yapping and growling. And I never treated him badly. Please read all the posts before responding.

 

[sparks19]

Well, that would be great advice if the dog wasn't in my house 24/7 always yapping. I'm guessing a five pound dogs' bites don't hurt, anyways. But, all this advice is useless since Rubylove is going to instruct me on how to teach this dog imposter to cut back on his yapping and growling. And I never treated him badly. Please read all the posts before responding.

You may not have been treating it badly yet but you made it perfectly clear that you have no problem backhanding the dog in the head as you so clearly pointed out in one of the first posts.

I don't imagine a bit from any size dog would feel good. Especially if he gets you in the face. One of those pointy teeth gets you in the eye and it won't matter if it was 5 lbs or 50 lbs.

But I'm glad you have some guidance now from Rubylove. She won't steer you wrong

 

[Saje]

My advice would be to leave the dog under your stepmom's care. Assuming that it's loved and taken care of everything should be good. It's not your responsibility to change someone's dog just becasue you don't like it's behaviour.

 

[Zen Fox]

You may not have been treating it badly yet but you made it perfectly clear that you have no problem backhanding the dog in the head as you so clearly pointed out in one of the first posts.

I don't imagine a bit from any size dog would feel good. Especially if he gets you in the face. One of those pointy teeth gets you in the eye and it won't matter if it was 5 lbs or 50 lbs.

No. I said I would gently backhand him if that's what it would take to put him in his place. I also said I didn't want to do that when I said, "I really don't want to be mean." As in I really, really don't want to use force. But I don't like that term "force" -- it sounds painful. A gentle backhand is not painful, just enough to be domineering.

And I wear glasses. No way would he get to my eyes.

 

[Rubylove]

I'm guessing a five pound dogs' bites don't hurt, anyways...

Wrong!!! It'll hurt like mad....lol....a two-pound CAT can give you a killer bite!!! And anyway, the size of the dog shouldn't matter, a bite is a bite - and if he learns to bite he'll bite anyone and anything.

First things first. I would like to ask you some personal questions (not too personal!!), so I wonder if you would like to email me so that we can have a chat about this pup and what to do in private?

You can get me on [email protected]. I will talk to you at length and in depth tonight when I get home from work, which will be about 6 o'clock, which is seven hours away.

Then we can get to the bottom of your problems with this little dog, and start building a happy life for him together!!

 

[Zen Fox]

My advice would be to leave the dog under your stepmom's care. Assuming that it's loved and taken care of everything should be good. It's not your responsibility to change someone's dog just becasue you don't like it's behaviour.

Up until this point, I've been doing what you're suggesting, but you have to realize the amount of yapping is getting me to my boiling point. It's not just me, but everyone, including my step-mom. She just won't do anything with him. Well, that's not 100% accurate. She tells him to stop, but it doesn't sway him to stop.

Plus, my lovely lady, Ambur hardly makes noise. She only makes low grunts when her dog is instigating and when Ambur replies, that flea goes hog-wild. then, my step-mom puts Ambur outside as if she's instigating. Dogs wrestle, I realize, but her dog goes overboard. And I want Ambur to be more of a house dog and I'm trying to house train her. If she's always outside, then she'll get confused about where to go to the bathroom. Again, I encourage dogs to wrestle: It's good exercise, but not when it gets mean and her dog gets mean. I've been thinking about training my sweet Ambur to get mean with other dogs, but she's to sweet for that. When she's ready to get hostile, she will.

So maybe people that have been on me can cut me some slack. I'm not talking about you, Saje.

 

[Zen Fox]

Wrong!!! It'll hurt like mad....lol....a two-pound CAT can give you a killer bite!!! And anyway, the size of the dog shouldn't matter, a bite is a bite - and if he learns to bite he'll bite anyone and anything.

First things first. I would like to ask you some personal questions (not too personal!!), so I wonder if you would like to email me so that we can have a chat about this pup and what to do in private?

You can get me on [email protected]. I will talk to you at length and in depth tonight when I get home from work, which will be about 6 o'clock, which is seven hours away.

Then we can get to the bottom of your problems with this little dog, and start building a happy life for him together!!

For sure. I look forward to it. But you have to realize it's just not me that's annoyed with him. It's everyone in my house. I'm just the only one that's willing to do something about it. And that dog is happy. Like I said, he's dominant of his owner.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

Zen, you will NEVER fool a dog with false good will.

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

And don't blame the dog. Blame the owner. If the owner is not willing to participate in modifying the dog's behavior, it will never change.

 

[Rubylove]

Of course - if you didn't want to help him you would never have posted about him in the first place!! I'm sure the dog is very annoying - as much as we love them, it doesn't mean that they're not annoying sometimes! - but we'll sort it out and then you'll ALL love him!