Pitbulls in the news

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OK... "American Staffordshire Terriers" are listed at #65, below the ever popular Whippet. Your point?
My point? The AKC isn't the biggest registery of the Pitties. There are thousands more that are registered with the UKC and other registeries.

It would make sense that people would be desperate to get ride of their beast-hounds as soon as they realize how dangerous they are.
Then why do Labs have a higher rate than Pitties do? In my local shelter, you should see all of the Labradors that come through. Has a Pittie ever come through? Not that I know of.
 
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I guess we'll agree to disagree.

Pitbull owners, please load up on your insurance and don't let them out of your sight.

The statistics are right there in plain daylight to see...
 
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How about this? See the injury on this pitbull's head? He was beaten (he has a huge bash to his head) and left to die in an Indian dumpster.

There's a high chance that he will become blind and deaf because of his injuries, it is suspected that he was used as bait in dog fights.
 

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Now I am actually starting to laugh. GoldenOwner is a little 'crazy'. I am sure just trying to drive us nuts. :rolleyes: The who pic of a snarling pit and a gun...PLEASE...corny!
 
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Maybe you should read this....

Now you're probably wondering, what's the point to my story? Nothing, just sharing my experience with a pitbull... one that I would give my life for, and wish we had never put so much trust into one person, to give up something so precious. I truly wish I still had her, and would have seen through the young couple. She by far, was the sweetest, most intelligent dog I ever met. She did not have one mean bone in her body, but if someone threatened her, or the ones she loved, of course she would defend them/herself. Any dog would... even a GR would defend their family if left threatened.

Pit bulls are based solely on their raising and breeding. Breeders today that find the joy in breeding these dogs for money, are finding that these dogs are more popular if they are big, muscled, with huge heads and fierce looking. They don't bother to test for temperment. I would have to say, the only time I would EVER agree with dog fighting, was when it was first introduced. The 'dogmen' of the early years would treat these dogs with respect as if it were their own family member. They never beat these dogs, nor did they starve them or neglect them. They properly conditioned them, and loved them in their homes. Today, people put too much emphasis on making the dog mean so it will attack. These dogs were bred to hunt bore and wild hogs. They would bring them down for butchers and hunters. It was a sport for some time, and was soon outlawed, as being seen 'cruel' and 'inhumane', which is when dog fighting soon came in to play.

These dogs were bred with sound temperment, to be sure there were no defects in their genes, and they were healthy. Why were they bred to friendly you ask? Because a dog handler had to have been able to pull their dog off of the other when told to do so, without being bitten. If the dog bit its handler, the dog was immediately shot. Yes it sounds cruel, but was for the best of the breed and the dog. Would you want to live with a dog that has already once bit you under circumstances that it's supposed to trust you? I surely wouldn't and that's why these dogs were raised in their homes while not fighting, to be wonderful family dogs. They were raised to guard their farms and homes, and left for as watchers for their children. We all know now though that NO dog should be left unattended with a child. No matter the breed, it is just unsafe. I wouldn't even leave my child alone with someone who may seem nice and caring, but unless they were a family member, I would not leave my child with them.

I am not for dog fighting.... I am truly highly against it, especially with the way the people today handle it. They are cruel, inhumane idiots that shouldn't own a dog of any sort. THESE people are the ones that are breeding these dogs to be "killing machines". If one dog is bred to a highly aggressive dog... more than likely the pups will pick up on this temperment, and thus ruins a whole generation and many many years of careful precise breeding to make a sound stable dog, and will now take many years to undo.

They were bred from a bull dog that needed to be diverse in combination with being a guard and catch dog for farmers. Bulldogs and Terriers were the cross, and they were much different then, than they are of todays bully breeds. They were tall, with a smaller head, quick and alert.

They were never bred as killing machines, and in fact were never first entirely bred to be dog fighters. They were once used on farms... to protect the farmer of unrully bulls. They were taught to control the livestock if they got out of hand. They only LEARNED to be aggressive towards dogs, they passed this LEARNED temperment onto their pups. People misunderstood this trait and turned it into something disasterous that the breed was never meant to be used for. These dogs have now LEARNED a different way to act, and passed this LEARNED temperment onto their pups, and is slowly tearing apart their true breed.

Sorry for so long, but it ticks me off when there are people who call these dogs "killing machines". I'm more afraid of a Fox Terrier down my street than I would be of a wandering pit bull.

One thing a pitty will never let go of is your heart! They only exhibit what they have learned is 'acceptable' to another human being. They don't understand why people judge them as killers.... the HUMAN they were owned by turned them into killers, and the dog should not be blamed for it!

This was posted by somebody off of another board. I thought it was a good post. I had to chop it short though, so you missed the best part.
 

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And listen to this, from the link I gave you that I bet you didn't even read.

GREAT BIG MYTHS AND LIES:
Do not let these myths and lies about Pit Bulls affect your judgment:
Pit Bulls are mean and vicious:
No more vicious than GOLDEN RETRIEVERS or Beagles. In a recent study of 122 dog breeds by the American Temperament Testing Society, Pit Bulls received a passing rate of 83.9%, which is as good if not better than Beagles at 78.2% and GOLDEN RETRIEVERS at 83.2%.
Pit Bulls have locking jaws:
The fact is that no animal, domesticated or wild, has the capability to lock its jaws. If you compare the anatomy of APBT’s skull to that of any other breed, you will see no difference in the jaw structure. The difference is that Pit Bulls have tremendous jaw strength and determination, which allows them to hold onto an object even in mid-air.
A Pit Bull that is aggressive towards dogs will be aggressive towards people:
No. Aggression towards animals and aggression towards people are two very different things. This is a huge myth and has generated a host of damaging anti Pit Bull hysteria. It is normal to have a Pit Bull that is very friendly and affectionate towards people, but not 100% trustworthy around dogs. Like in any breed of dog, a properly raised, well socialized and responsibly owned Pit Bull should never show any signs of aggression towards people. Human aggression is not typical of the breed.
 
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Ohh...look at this mean Pit! :rolleyes:
Yup...ever wondered what breed that big dog from the "Little Rascals" is? The one that spent most of his time around many young children? A pitbull.
 
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The statistics are right there in plain daylight to see...
Ya, and how come you are ignoring our side of the argument? How come you are ignoring our first hand experience? How come you are ignoring our statistics?
When I know I'm dealing with a truely ignorant person, is when they refuse to answer all of the opponets questions and/or points. I was just recentally in a debate with a memeber of another board, and every answer that I asked her, or she asked me, we presented our argument for our answer and why we thought so. That was one of the best debates I've ever been in. When you can't, or refuse, to answer a question, then that either proves that your side is wrong, or you are just ignorant.
 
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Well, I'm talking to thin air here, but if Pitties are so mean and vicious and unpridictable, how can they be judged in dog shows? Why would a Pittie be completely happy-go-lucky in a ring with other intact dogs with strange people coming up and touching them? Huh? How can a Pittie be a treasured member of a family if it is unpridictable?
 
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I guess it's fairly obvious that GO either didn't bother to look around here and read any of the Pittie posts, or just enjoys stirring things up. If the latter is the case, I'm glad she is sticking with an easy, affable, amiable breed like the Golden that is very temperamentally forgiving of hysterics and histrionics and doesn't react strongly to their owner's animosities toward others.

Can you imagine someone like that handling a Fila . . . or a Dobie or a German Shepherd?

Either way, until GO proves otherwise, I'm chalking her comments up to fear, ignorance and their ill-gotten offspring, bigotry.
 

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I just got in on this....I doubt if GO will even read this far. Yes, having had Goldens for over 40 years I love the breed , they are wonderful, loving family dogs and are known for this. But, I do not put down other breeds . I feel every Golden owner is a dog lover. Obviously GO does not love " dogs" ...he/she loves breeds. I would say it's a first dog and a young owner who wants to swat at a hornest nest . Every breed has it's ' problems' though bad breeding. Most of the people on this forum support pitts because they have rescued and loved. I'm sure we won't hear much more from GO.....as one, I'm ashamed of the post .
 
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That's one that doesn't deserve to share the same Golden planet with you, Grammy. There's not a much more sweet or amiable breed than a Golden Retriever, but an owner with an attitude like that can turn even the nicest dog into a snarky mess. Thankfully, Goldens don't seem to let themselves be influenced much or too confused by their owners' defensiveness - they seem to prefer viewing the world through benevolent eyes.
 

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Thanks Renee... I just can't see a loving golden living under the same roof with someone of that mind set !! It really upset me !!
 
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It's a shame we don't breed humans for temperament . . . I think it was Thomas Jefferson who remarked that more effort was put into the breeding of stock than that of humans. :)
 

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I'm beginning to think this was a trolly...... who else would put a golden against a pitt. Obviously we are above him mentality wise and we shall hear no more !!
 

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