Pit Bull Perception

Rosefern

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Before joining Chaz, I had only been on dog sports (agility, obedience) and rescue forums, and I had never realized how open everyone on Chaz is to the pit bull problem.

I was lurking around on some other forums today and this is some of the things I found...now, you would never hear anyone on Chaz say things like this:

I would never own any Bulldog/Mastiff type dog; Staffies, Pit Bulls, Bull Mastiffs. I have met some really nice examples of the breed but I have also met some nasty ones. I would never chance one of these breeds purely due to their potential for aggression.
No bully breed dogs mainly because I hate the way people act when they see one and would worry about the increased potential for aggression issues. I would concider a boxer though.
I am with you on no bulldog, pitbull. I personally do not like the looks and I think their natural tendency towards aggresion is scary and overlooked by most people who own them. I love when they say "oh no, not my girl, she is the sweetest pittbull ever"! ya, until she kills the neighbors dog one day out of the blue! Just have heard too many horror stories. Has there ever been one of the stories about the Lab who attacks and rips neighborhood child's face off?
Rotties, boxers etc worry me.
I would never have a Pit bull - just couldn't deal with the negative perception and stigma associated, a lot of what I treasure about having a dog is being able to socialize with him
I'd probably rule out any bully breeds for the reasons mentioned above...we're going to have children in a couple of years and there is no need to worry about temperment issues or even other childrens parents being worried even if we aren't.
I hate pits. They're evil. Every single one
Pits don't like other dogs...which is how they should be. How can a dog like people when they don't even like their own species. Agression is agression is agression.
I dont like Dobermans, Rotties or Pinchers. They all seem too unpredictable to me. No fan of Pitbulls either.
Rottie can be a little too “aggressive” for me. Can be nice doges when trained, just not my thing
Pit bulls I have children need I say more?
All pits should be beatehn it would make up for all the pain they put people thru all the attacks and stuff
Pitbulls should be illegal everywhere.
Very sad, isn't it?

-Rosefern
 
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Yep. Wow.

Has there ever been one of the stories about the Lab who attacks and rips neighborhood child's face off?
Uhhhmmmmmmmmmm............................................ YES! First person to have a full facial reconstruction. Was mauled by her Labrador Retriever. But, I'm not gonna go into anything else b/c of how utterly pointless it is.
 

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I felt the same about Pitties until I got on Chaz . I do know now that most are wonderful family dogs ...... but .... I'm sorry to say I would never take the chance of what could happen .( I feel about some other breeds too) with young children . We had yet another attack here this weekend . A lady was babysitting her neighbor's Pit Bull . She knew the dog and so did her daughter . They loved him . She and her daughter took him for a walk and when back in the yard , unleashed him . Without a warning he grabbed the 7 yr old by the arm and started dragging her . The girl may lose her arm . This was a family dog , never aggressive , not provoked . Why did he do this ??? I can see this when a dog hasn't had the right training or socialization , but this was a family dog ! Yes, this could happen with many breeds, but I do agree ---as much as I love and admire them , there are breeds I couldn't trust as my choice when children are or will be involved . It really hurt me when the article continued that 6000 Pit Bulls were PTS here last year because of aggression . Those of you who have your wonderful babies , keep fighting for better breeding and lets end these statistics.
 

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But Grammy, there is ALWAYS a trigger... If he really was so well-treated, it was probably something the girl did, intentionally or not.
 

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I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers here, so please don't take offense.. But due to breeding, I do think there is a lot of potential in Pit and Bulldog types for aggression, towards other animals if not towards people. Some breeds are inherently more aggressive than others, particularly those bred to protect or hunt. It isn't a bloodlust type of aggression, but it's there and I think potential owners NEED to take it into consideration if they are going to be responsible owners. You have to do this with every breed, it doesn't mean it's bad, but all breeds (and individual dogs) have notable characteristics that require vigilance on the part of the owner to control - whether it is a tendency towards aggression, prey drive, poor reliability off-lead, fear, nuisance barking.. Whatever. I think it's fine if people don't want to own Pit types, it's their choice. My problem lies with the people who don't think anyone should own them.

I personally do not want a dog that I can't trust with the other dogs in the household - I have one of those already and it would be too frustrating for me to deal with another.And no, I do not and will not trust a pit bull with other dogs. It's not because I hate the breed, I am just cautious about putting them in a situation where aggression might rear its ugly head. Even if the dog hasn't shown aggression to other dogs before, it can happen. It can happen with any dog of any breed, but I think due to the Pit Bull's past, it is more likely to occur in this kind of breed. Even if my border collies never showed interest in herding livestock, i wouldn't put them offlead in a pen full of sheep and feel confident that their instinct had been fully trained out of them... I don't understand why people set their pit bulls up for failure by keeping them in close quarters with other dogs?
 

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I felt the same about Pitties until I got on Chaz . I do know now that most are wonderful family dogs ...... but .... I'm sorry to say I would never take the chance of what could happen .( I feel about some other breeds too) with young children . We had yet another attack here this weekend . A lady was babysitting her neighbor's Pit Bull . She knew the dog and so did her daughter . They loved him . She and her daughter took him for a walk and when back in the yard , unleashed him . Without a warning he grabbed the 7 yr old by the arm and started dragging her . The girl may lose her arm . This was a family dog , never aggressive , not provoked . Why did he do this ??? I can see this when a dog hasn't had the right training or socialization , but this was a family dog ! Yes, this could happen with many breeds, but I do agree ---as much as I love and admire them , there are breeds I couldn't trust as my choice when children are or will be involved . It really hurt me when the article continued that 6000 Pit Bulls were PTS here last year because of aggression . Those of you who have your wonderful babies , keep fighting for better breeding and lets end these statistics.
Very well said Grammy....................If there was EVER a dog that needed to be out of the hands of BYB/Puppy Mills..........Pitties are it!
 

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Didnt a Yorkie kill a 2 year old?

45 breeds of dogs have killed humans (children & adults). Breeds such as the Yorkshire Terrier & Pomeranian are included in this list of dogs.

Ignorance is leading this race here. I'm not sure why people are stuck on the "pit bulls are inherently aggressive" issue but even those out there trying their best to support the breed keep touting this themselves.

And I'm sick & tired of hearing the "It's all in how they are raised" statements. Of course neglect & abuse can cause some issues, but the truth is that a stable dog is very hard to ruin. Too many people with bleeding hearts are making a living off of making excuses for dogs' temperaments. I hear all the time that a dog doesn't like men because it was abused/neglected by a man. Well then, euthanize that dog. I've been involved in rescue work for almost 15 years & one thing that I have learned is that for every 1 dog that turns into a complete basket case at the slightest hint of neglect and/or abuse, there are 2 dogs whose temperaments remain steadfast & show no signs of aggression issues. These dogs should be the norm, not the exception.

And the fact is that there are bad dogs out there. Yes I said it, bad dogs. Bad dogs happen in every breed due to poor breeding practices that are common nowadays. However, despite the bad dogs out in the world, there are NO bad breeds. Period.

I refuse to get into yet another pissing debate. I respect a person's decision to not own a particular breed of dog as there are many breeds myself I wouldn't own & most of my decisions come from actually working with these breeds through shelter work or at the clinic. But what does get to me is when people claim to "like" pit bulls & "have no problem with them" yet they go on to state they wouldn't have them & then spout off the same "they are inherently aggressive & will someday rip my child's face off" comment.

Let's start from the beginning: IF IT HAS TEETH, IT CAN BITE.
 

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Its sad, but alot of people feel that way, & those things said that you quoted Rose is probably most of the general public's view on these dogs. I own 2 Rottweilers, 1 Bullmastiff and 1 ACD, and the ACD is the dog I wouldn't trust before the Rotties or the Bullie. Again, its all about how the dog is raised, bred, and socializaed. But, they are also the breeds, like mentioned above, that has been ruined by the BYBs & puppymills.

That being said, would I leave my dogs unsupervied with a child? No. That is a chance you shouldn't take at all, no matter what the dog, a pit, rott, or even a yorkie.

*sigh*
 

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I have this painting framed in my bedroom:





(notice the Chi getting in a sneak attack)
 
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion and reasons for not owning a breed of dog, but some of the reasons I hear are laughable at best.





 
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Very sad, isn't it?

-Rosefern
Sad and revolting . . . .

But Grammy, there is ALWAYS a trigger... If he really was so well-treated, it was probably something the girl did, intentionally or not.
Too often we forget that there is always a reason, whether we want to believe it or not.

Ignorance is leading this race here.

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Let's start from the beginning: IF IT HAS TEETH, IT CAN BITE.
EXACTLY, Mia . . .

And we need more pics, you've been slacking ;)
 

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I agree with the trigger .... but I feel some breed's trigger is a little more sensitive .
 

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