PETA Supports pitbull ban?
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Strength and stubbornness. My dog can bite (he's a pit mix) as he showed me in the early days of our relationship, and he's incredibly stubborn about letting go when he doesnt' want to... but his jaws do not lock. Nor do I think he will just all of the sudden turn on me, or become human aggressive without justifiable cause.
If the puppy started to "go after" the kids, then someone should have been working with him on bite inhibition (something they learn as pups from 6-8 weeks if htey are with their mom's) and proper socialization with humans. If the kids were tormenting the puppy without anyone knowing, i can see why a puppy might try to drive them off from him.
If you ever run into this situation again, why not try calling a pit bull rescue group to see if you can get hte next pit bull or pit bull puppy into a breed experienced foster home? They aren't like other dogs, like labs, but only in that they are dogs that need consistent firm rules from day one. Not a lot of people can provide that, in my opinion.
If the puppy started to "go after" the kids, then someone should have been working with him on bite inhibition (something they learn as pups from 6-8 weeks if htey are with their mom's) and proper socialization with humans. If the kids were tormenting the puppy without anyone knowing, i can see why a puppy might try to drive them off from him.
If you ever run into this situation again, why not try calling a pit bull rescue group to see if you can get hte next pit bull or pit bull puppy into a breed experienced foster home? They aren't like other dogs, like labs, but only in that they are dogs that need consistent firm rules from day one. Not a lot of people can provide that, in my opinion.
makenzie71 said:
I'm not making smug replies. I'm looking for proof that PETA supports breed specific banning...I can't find any myself, despite the fact that a vast number of people seem to be under the impression that PETA does support it. I have no proof to the contrary, nor am I trying to prove the contrary...and if PETA doesn't support, why would proof be available?
they've never exaggerated, hid information, or been deceptive. never. nope, not them. everything on their website is the truth, whole truth and nothing but the truth.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/06/08/EDGDLD4G1S1.DTL
straight from the chronicle.
or perhaps, what used to be on ingrid's website she has now taken off? notice that internet cache's of the website no longer work?
As PETA's Ingrid Newkirk says, "How people can fight breed bans - in other words, how they can fight to keep on breeding a particular breed-is beyond me, unless they are dogfighters or similar. Aren't we supposed to be against breeding if we care about dogs? Here's why I support breed bans:
1. We have an overpopulation problem that means millions of dogs are killed every year for lack of good homes, so a breed ban on any breed or, preferably, all of them, can only reduce the flow of new dogs coming into a world that can't accommodate those already dying for a place. Who cares if someone wants to outlaw pit bulls, dachshunds, or poodles? Those of us who deal with overpopulation are opposed to all breeding, so why insist that pits or any dog still be allowed to breed? That's crackers!
2. We don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. If someone proposes banning pits, we can make sure that this great law contains a grandfather clause so that no pits already born have to be given up if their people value them. If existing dogs aren't affected, what's the gripe? That we aren't allowing more of them to be bred? Are we dog breeders or dog protectors? And let's modify the law further to require sterilization of existing pits. That means that people who would like to care for and love a dog after the existing one has passed on won't be allowed to breed more just because they fancy a look or whatever it is they fancy (as if a dog is like a car that you pick and choose a model). Rather, they can actually show they care by adopting an equally wonderful but so far unwanted dog from death row."
(source: http://www.ingridnewkirk.com/archives/2005/07/lets_face_it_br.html)
(this is from animalrightsmalta.com)
I know I should have stayed out of this one..OK lets try this one again.
my bf ex wife got the pup and she found out that it is not easy taking care of a pup that young,So she give the pup to me and then wanted her back after she was weaned off the bottle.what ever she wants she gets so she got the pup back.Over at her house is where the pup started going after the kids.I WAS not there so I don't realy know what happen.I love the breed when we move out of the city I am going to get a nother one.
I also know not all pits are bad one it all goes back to the breeder and how the rasie there dogs.But Oklahoma has way to many pits just running ever where.I have had 2 pure bred pits before and a pit/boxer before.
No the ex should not have any dogs at all.
my bf ex wife got the pup and she found out that it is not easy taking care of a pup that young,So she give the pup to me and then wanted her back after she was weaned off the bottle.what ever she wants she gets so she got the pup back.Over at her house is where the pup started going after the kids.I WAS not there so I don't realy know what happen.I love the breed when we move out of the city I am going to get a nother one.
I also know not all pits are bad one it all goes back to the breeder and how the rasie there dogs.But Oklahoma has way to many pits just running ever where.I have had 2 pure bred pits before and a pit/boxer before.
No the ex should not have any dogs at all.
http://www.ingridnewkirk.com it's on there
whoa, PETA bugs the HECK outta me...
i really didnt realize shelters would immediately euthanize pits that is really sad.
I am liking the humane society i volunteer at more and more....they adopt out pits...they apparently have to pass a LOT more tests though than the other dogs.
They are a kill shelter though cept only for dogs that show serious aggression...all bite cases get euthanized...
and they will never kill a dog that is not being adopted...they will keep it there for as long as possible (they often begin to go crazy though, show aggression...and when that happens... )
i really didnt realize shelters would immediately euthanize pits
that is really sad. I am liking the humane society i volunteer at more and more....they adopt out pits...they apparently have to pass a LOT more tests though than the other dogs.
They are a kill shelter though
cept only for dogs that show serious aggression...all bite cases get euthanized...and they will never kill a dog that is not being adopted...they will keep it there for as long as possible (they often begin to go crazy though, show aggression...and when that happens...
)I was in a personal email battle with Ingrid and her staff awhile back about BSLs and banning Pit Bulls. If you go to the website and find their contact info and ask about their stance they will tell you. Basically they say Pit Bulls should be banned because they are instruments of cruelty to other animals and that they attract abuse themselves because of the people drawn to "such a breed". They are very firm in their stance against Pit Bulls and will not waiver on it.
If you get a Pit Bull or a Rott at a Humane society, you are getting the best possible dog. Why? Because HSs put Pits and Rotts through tens times the evaluation as any other breed. If they have any flaw they get the needle.
At the Humane Society where I volunteer at they euthanized a 8 week old Pit Bull puppy because they said it was aggressive....That was such BS that I couldn't walk into the building for a long time. The puppy was mouthy and needed training but COME ON! As you can tell I get real upset just thinking about it
At the Humane Society where I volunteer at they euthanized a 8 week old Pit Bull puppy because they said it was aggressive....That was such BS that I couldn't walk into the building for a long time. The puppy was mouthy and needed training but COME ON! As you can tell I get real upset just thinking about it
Amstaffer- I saw the same situation at the HS I volunteered at back in my hometown. The puppy was mouthy (what puppy ISN'T??), and rambunctious. Apparently, if the dog is a pitbull, this is considered "aggression." I understand the extreme need for caution in adopting out pits and pit mixes, as you really don't want these dogs in the hands of the uneducated or just plain unsuitable, but that was ridiculous.
Happily, I believe this same shelter is working on becoming no kill, and will be sending adoptable pits to breed rescues better equipped to handle them.
Happily, I believe this same shelter is working on becoming no kill, and will be sending adoptable pits to breed rescues better equipped to handle them.