PB Attacks Toddler

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That is tragic - but the article does bring up a very good point that i wish MORE people would get through their **** heads...

"In general, Caldwell said, children never should be left unattended with dogs, even if they are the family pet."

Regardless of breed that would be a good rule to have if you have kids.

I know this isn't the case here, but a lot of dog bites could be avoided if people practiced some common sense.

Also why didn't this owner have the dog vaccinated? If she wasn't vaccinated i wonder what training or other care the dog was lacking?

Just questions and opinions of mine...
 

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Well, consider the mother is in her early 20's, just got picked up on warrants, you can imagine the training the dog had- none. Another thug with a dog for a status symbol unfortunately. There is a byline on that web site that says they put the dog down today. I HATE seeing this stuff happen. I wish there was a way to ban irresponsible people from owning dogs.
 

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What really gets to me is that they say the dog attacked without provocation..how the heck would anyone know if the child or the dog wasn't even supervised at that time? There are so many missing parts to all these dog attack stories that they don't even bother considering...and that could be extremely important in actually determining why dog bites/attacks actually occur, and especially why they usually involve either young children or seniors...

*sigh*

And then the article goes on to speak about the 22 year old mother that is the actual owner of the dog..how she spit at the camera and how she has two charges or something of the sort...why do such irresponsible TRASH own dogs in the first place? We don't know the history of the dog, or this stupid woman for that matter...

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As for charges of not vaccinating the dog for rabies being irresponsible or not...I wonder how they determine that...supposedly, dogs are to be vaccinated for rabies yearly..which I think is pathetic and actually very unhealthy for the dog..rabies vaccines last for 3-4 years within the system...so for example...would I get charged if someone called the police on me and they checked my files and noticed that my dog hasn't been vaccinated for three years? Even though its been scienfically proven that its unnecessary? See that's another load of bull..but anyways...
 
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DanL said:
Well, consider the mother is in her early 20's, just got picked up on warrants, you can imagine the training the dog had- none. Another thug with a dog for a status symbol unfortunately. There is a byline on that web site that says they put the dog down today. I HATE seeing this stuff happen. I wish there was a way to ban irresponsible people from owning dogs.
It would start with breeders selling puppies to reputable and responsible people. Too many breeders just sell their puppies to just anyone who pays.
 
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It's interesting what the SPCA director said - thousands of dog bites go unreported every year because they involve family or friends of the dog's owners. I wonder why the SPCA and other animal agencies (rescue, shelters, etc.) don't do some work there with publicizing the fact that dog bites deserve to be reported. I've tried reporting dog bites to the police, animal control or SPCA - their reaction is "did anyone die?" All the funding to promote neutering is great, but can't a little go toward encouraging people (including officials) to act responsibly about dangerous dogs?
 

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Because you know the human race is great at justification. And really, does one bite mean the dog is actually 'dangerous?" Think of all the stimulii you just listed...does reactive = dangerous/vicious?
 

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DanL said:
Well, consider the mother is in her early 20's, just got picked up on warrants, you can imagine the training the dog had- none. Another thug with a dog for a status symbol unfortunately. There is a byline on that web site that says they put the dog down today. I HATE seeing this stuff happen. I wish there was a way to ban irresponsible people from owning dogs.
I agree. I have a pit mix, and because of stupid people like this I fear everyday that BSL will encroach upon my city. Will i give up my dog? No. I will probably end up moving again...
 

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but can't a little go toward encouraging people (including officials) to act responsibly about dangerous dogs?
Or more to the point dangerous people. First of all she is a complete idiot for leaving her dog a lone with a kid. I don't care what breed you never ever leave a dog a lone with a kid. About three years ago I recall reading story about a baby being mauled by some little terrier mix. The picture in the paper of the dog looked like Toto.

I really wish people had to obtain a license (like Drivers License) where they would have to pass a knowledge test and demonstrate finacial abiltiy to take care of a dog.

It is the people who are too stupid too ignorant to own dogs, not the dogs.


:( It is sooo sad the child had to pay the price for the mothers ignorance. I wonder how long it will be before she buys another dog. :mad:
 
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Or more to the point dangerous people. First of all she is a complete idiot for leaving her dog a lone with a kid. I don't care what breed you never ever leave a dog a lone with a kid. About three years ago I recall reading story about a baby being mauled by some little terrier mix. The picture in the paper of the dog looked like Toto.

I really wish people had to obtain a license (like Drivers License) where they would have to pass a knowledge test and demonstrate finacial abiltiy to take care of a dog.

It is the people who are too stupid too ignorant to own dogs, not the dogs.


:( It is sooo sad the child had to pay the price for the mothers ignorance. I wonder how long it will be before she buys another dog. :mad:
The child was not alone. The mother was with the child when the dog attacked.
 

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Yes it said the mother was with the child when it was attacked.... I do trust my dogs with my granddaughter, they would protect her to the end, butI still supervise. McKinley is only two and there are the eyes and ears and teeth . she has to learn to respect the dogs, as well as the dogs have to respect her...just the way it is. First of all, being a mom, grandmother, and dog mom, if one of my dogs did decide to eat McKinley for the fun of it..I wouldn't be running out in the yard to get help. I would pick up whatever, and protect her. I would be the one with the cuts and bruises. And, don't get me wrong, my dogs are my babies. But I am not going to stand by and let my grandchild, child be mauled, but, I will not stand by and let one of my dogs be abused either.
There always seems to be missing pieces to dog bite stories. I always wonder what really happened? JMO
 
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Stories like this get me so mad! :mad: I just can't see a dog attacking for no reason unless the dog was vicious to begin with (which is not the dog's fault either). When I was younger my mom told me a story of a PB attacking a young boy and the poor dog was put down. Later on they found that the boy had shoved a pen down the dog's ear canal! :( I would have bit him too...​
 

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The mother was with the child? Are you sure about that? If you continue down towards the end of the article, it actually states that the mother was not present when the incident occured..how many dang mothers and baby mothers and mother's mothers are there then...and what the heck really happened?

The dog attacked "UNPROVOKED?"
PFFFT..yeah..okay :rolleyes: and which dog behaviorist experts are determining this? Let me guess..the 22 year old present yet not present mother that spit at the camera? Ohhh boy...

This whole story is complete B.S...nothing more and nothing less...
 
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I think it goes like this- tot was at grandmoms. Other granddaughters PB was there. She is the one wanted on warrants and spit on people. Tot's mom was not there. Scumbag spitting owner was not there either.
 

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This is a very sad story. I have a 3 yr old and can't imagine.

The article does say "As the girl's grandmother Francis Robinson was getting ready, the toddler and her mother were waiting in the livingroom when the pit bull lunged at the child ......."

The 3 yr old's mother was not the owner of the dog, her sister was.

Who know's why the dog attacked, maybe the toddler was making a noise she didn't like or picked up a toy that scared her so she attacked.

I know that if a dog was attacking my child, I would be the one seperating them. I have experienced that "adrenaline" rush when a crisis hits where you just act without thinking. Maybe that isn't natural for everyone? I don't know.

I just hope this little girl recovers and someone brings her around gentle dogs so she isn't scared of dogs forever.
 

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Lets look at the article.

The girl's mother, Alicia Campbell, told officers she had taken her daughter to the home to pick up her mother for a doctor's appointment
As the girl's grandmother Frances Robinson was getting ready, the toddler and her mother were waiting in the living room when the pit bull lunged at the child and latched onto the top of her head.
Caldwell said the girl's grandmother signed the animal over to the officers. The 4-year-old female dog, however, did not belong to her. It belonged to her 22-year-old granddaughter, Turquoise Robinson, who was not at home when the attack occurred.
Robinson, who lives with her grandmother, was wanted for an outstanding warrant and was taken into custody Monday afternoon on that charge.

On her way to county police headquarters, Robinson spit at a television reporter and cameraman outside her home.

Navarro said in addition to the outstanding warrant, Robinson was charged with two counts of offensive touching because of the spitting
Some of you didn't read the article that well, but were ready to call Alicia Campbell irresponsible, idiot[ic] trash who didn't watch her child, and blame her for the attack. The article clearly says that another person named Turquoise was the owner of the dog. It also says that Frances Robinson is Alicia's mother , and is the dog's owner's grandmother .It clearly says that Alicia was there with her child in the living room, when the attack occured.

Now if we were to turn the tables and someone who read a story like this called for the euthanisation of all pitbulls, you same people would be up in arms about folks using false information as justification to kill innocent dogs. This story is sad. It's also sad that some of you blamed this poor woman for not preventing the attack by supervising her daughter, and for being a "thug" with a dangerous dog that she got just for status, when the article says no such thing. It's sad that people on both sides of the fence are so quick to jump to conclusions and place blame on someone/thing without getting their facts straight first.
 
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Amstaffer said:
I really wish people had to obtain a license (like Drivers License) where they would have to pass a knowledge test and demonstrate finacial abiltiy to take care of a dog.
Ugh, now I have stand in line at the Bureau of Dog Ownership each year to renew my dog tags, too?
 

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