Parti Poodles...

[Renee750il]

I'm so sorry about your father-in-law . . . Since this will ease his mind, I'm glad your doing it - and as you're willing to take care of the pup if your mother-in-law can't, well, no harm, no foul there in my book

Unfortunately, the breeder usually CAN keep your deposit if she decides to. Check the terms you agreed to. Hopefully the breeder you are getting yours from will be much better than the one in the link looks. Sometimes you just deal with as much as you can and do the best you can. Right now, at this point in your life, you've got a lot of weight on your shoulders. Just do your best, and most of us (wish I could say ALL) will help you out as much as we can.

 

[Lola.]

I'm sorry about your father-in-law.

Does she know you are getting her a puppy? Does it HAVE to be a surprise? Please, please look into breeders (in fact, get in touch with your local Poodle club, most would be happy to help).

Here's the link to The Poodle Club of America:
http://www.poodleclubofamerica.org/

 

[mamasobuco]

I'd run far, far away.



But what about the people who don't have a happy ending? The one's who get the dog - even though they hinted or said they wanted a dog - and then it turns out neither get along or it's not the one s/he wanted?

Whoever the dog is for, THEY need to choose. They need to spend time with the dog, see if it would be a good fit in their home, and then make the decision. It's not someone else's choice regardless of how well they know the person... after all they won't be living with it.

So I say get a stuffed Poodle with an IOU note and get in touch with an EXCELLENT breeder or rescue, both of you do your research.

Will go back into lurk mode now

There is just as much of a chance of incompatibility with a dog that they picked out themselves.
Although I do have to say that I like the IOU idea. It would be fun to shop dogs with someone you love enough to get one for.

 

[Lola.]

There is just as much of a chance of incompatibility with a dog that they picked out themselves.

I don't think you get the point, or don't want to.

If someone goes to an excellent breeder, that breeder is going to want to match a puppy with the right home. Period. How can they do that if they don't know who the puppy is going to? How do they know what person "X" wants and lives like if they don't even meet him/her? Same deal with good rescues.

I've seen dogs surrendered to rescues and shelters because the dog isn't what they wanted, they weren't expecting it, it's just too much - happens all the time, especially after Christmas/New Years. Just because there are happy endings, doesn't mean it's going to be the case all the time. There's no good reason to take that chance.

 

[Lola.]

Nope Caren, a Parti Poodle is just a colour. It's speckles usually with black and white. It is recognized.

Edit - N/M google is wonderful.

In addition, as of January 2004, the United Kennel Club (UKC) accepts coat colours of either: solid, parti-coloured, phantom, abstract, sable, or multi-patterned. See the UKC Breed Standard for details. The Canadian Kennel Club (CKC) and the American Kennel Club (AKC), however, disqualify parti-coloured dogs.

http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/poodlestd.htm

(again, assuming this is what you meant )

 

[~Dixie's_Mom~]

I don't think you get the point, or don't want to.

If someone goes to an excellent breeder, that breeder is going to want to match a puppy with the right home. Period. How can they do that if they don't know who the puppy is going to? How do they know what person "X" wants and lives like if they don't even meet him/her? Same deal with good rescues.

I've seen dogs surrendered to rescues and shelters because the dog isn't what they wanted, they weren't expecting it, it's just too much - happens all the time, especially after Christmas/New Years. Just because there are happy endings, doesn't mean it's going to be the case all the time. There's no good reason to take that chance.

I agree with you, but in this case, the lady is willing to take in the dog if the person she's getting it for won't take it, so it's a win/win situation. In alot of cases, people aren't willing to take the dog, so it does end up in a shelter. Thankfully, this isn't the case. Good luck in picking out your dog, find a good breeder.

 

[Lola.]

I agree with you, but in this case, the lady is willing to take in the dog if the person she's getting it for won't take it, so it's a win/win situation. In alot of cases, people aren't willing to take the dog, so it does end up in a shelter. Thankfully, this isn't the case. Good luck in picking out your dog, find a good breeder.

I still don't think that's right for anyone involved.

So the OP gets a puppy for her mother-in-law, and *IF*, for whatever reason, decides she can't keep her or him/doesn't want her or him, the OP takes the puppy.

Maybe I'm just weird, or maybe I've seen what can happen too often, but it would make a whole lot more sense to me to just have the mother-in-law help pick the dog out so she can be prepared. Yes, there's no 100% guarantee, but if the OP does her best to seek out an excellent breeder - the person who has spent weeks/months with the litter and knows her dogs - the breeder would be able to help make the decision as well. THAT'S a win-win situation IMO.

 

[~Dixie's_Mom~]

I'm not paying for the dog. Well, I did mail the deposit, but my father- in-law will pay me back. He's just too sick to do all of this himself.
I agree 100% that my mother-in-law should be the one to pick out the dog herself if she wants one that bad. I know I wouldn't want anyone picking my dog for me.
He just knows that his time is running out and he doesn't want her to be "lonely".
Now, I feel even worse about all this than before. I'm not sure if the ckc is canadian or continental. I had no idea there was more than one. I also had no idea that continental wasn't any good. I paid the deposit so the puppy could be held for me, but I was planning on checking it out thoroughly when I went to pick it up to make sure it was healthy. I figured if I wasn't satisified she would have to give my deposit back. Right? I mean she can't keep the puppy and the deposit.
Thanks for all of you guys info. I wish I would have inquired about it before taking any steps. He just wanted me to get one asap.

Actually, in most cases, Deposits are Non-Refundible. Because if you give someone a deposit, you are basically putting a SOLD sign on the dog's forehead...if they are holding it for you, and then you don't want it, the pup is probably to old for most potential buyers (don't ask me why, I'd rather have an older pup anyway) and they've lost money because if they have to re-run their ad in the papers or on a site, & it's going to be another $70 (+ or-), plus more money for the extra shots they'll need because they're older than originally expected. Some breeders put aside money for puppy costs, and end up having to pay more than they saved for. So, I doubt you'll get your money back. If she didn't SAY that it was Non-Refundible, then you have a good chance. If you CAN get your money back, look into a breeder who has AKC or UKC registered puppies. There's a better chance the breeder is responsible, if possible, check out their website! Oh, and don't feel bad! I think everyone's had a dog from a BYB, or had a close call. If you're not educated about BYBs, and PuppyMills, there's no way you'll know how to watch for them. Look up info on the internet about BYBs and PuppyMills. It'll help you alot, and help you to realize how to find a better quality puppy, and why you should-some of the photos are heart wrenching. Good luck! Parti-Poodles are cute! I hope you can find a healthy puppy from a responsible breeder!

 

[bubbatd]

Does it have to be a parti ?? Have you checked into petfinder in your area ?? Personally , with what she'll be going through with her husband , she doesn't need a pup .... but I don't know her age or the situation . At this point I'd try to get my deposit back and do a little more searching. I too can understand the situation and your FIL's concern . Very touching and I hope he too can enjoy the dog .

 

[~Dixie's_Mom~]

I still don't think that's right for anyone involved.

So the OP gets a puppy for her mother-in-law, and *IF*, for whatever reason, decides she can't keep her or him/doesn't want her or him, the OP takes the puppy.

Maybe I'm just weird, or maybe I've seen what can happen too often, but it would make a whole lot more sense to me to just have the mother-in-law help pick the dog out so she can be prepared. Yes, there's no 100% guarantee, but if the OP does her best to seek out an excellent breeder - the person who has spent weeks/months with the litter and knows her dogs - the breeder would be able to help make the decision as well. THAT'S a win-win situation IMO.

Yeah, I do agree with that. I think the IOU idea is awesome!

 

[mamasobuco]

I don't think you get the point, or don't want to.

If someone goes to an excellent breeder, that breeder is going to want to match a puppy with the right home. Period. How can they do that if they don't know who the puppy is going to? How do they know what person "X" wants and lives like if they don't even meet him/her? Same deal with good rescues.

I've seen dogs surrendered to rescues and shelters because the dog isn't what they wanted, they weren't expecting it, it's just too much - happens all the time, especially after Christmas/New Years. Just because there are happy endings, doesn't mean it's going to be the case all the time. There's no good reason to take that chance.

You're RUDE and VERY closed minded and I think it's very sad that the OP now feels bad about her decision. In addition, you're not giving the OP any respect for feeling that the dog will get a good home.
I'm not sure where you come from, but where I come from people are entitled to form their own opinions and feel a certain way about things depending on their experiences. Hence the fact that you see it as a bad idea due to yours.
I wasn't looking for a debate (as so many are on this forum). I was giving my opion based on my life experiences. If that is not allowed here, I will sign off for the last time.

 

[bubbatd]

A Question : The site that you mentioned ... was this the one you went through ?? If so , which one did you send deposit to ?? There were several there . Just trying to help ... not ostracize !

 

[tempura tantrum]

i just wanted to say, i love this. i've also heard of people buying a really cute collar/leash with an IOU

This is what my parents did for me- and it really works out fantastically.

A dog is such a personal decision- the idea of surprising people SOUNDS great, but in reality almost never goes as expected.

I have family friends who "surprised" their older grandparents with a Schnauzer puppy. Who's Schnauzer do you think it is now?

The other thing to think about- I honestly don't know any good breeders who would agree to basically sell a dog to someone they've never met. Good breeders are very concerned with how a person interacts with their dogs. They want to meet someone in person before they give away one of their "babies."

And I don't know any who would sell a dog to someone who was giving as a gift. Especially if they never met either party in person.

I feel for you in your situation- you DO have a lot on your plate right now!

Seconding Renee- keep in touch and we'll do our best to help you out!

 

[Lola.]

You're RUDE and VERY closed minded and I think it's very sad that the OP now feels bad about her decision. In addition, you're not giving the OP any respect for feeling that the dog will get a good home.
I'm not sure where you come from, but where I come from people are entitled to form their own opinions and feel a certain way about things depending on their experiences. Hence the fact that you see it as a bad idea due to yours.
I wasn't looking for a debate (as so many are on this forum). I was giving my opion based on my life experiences. If that is not allowed here, I will sign off for the last time.

How did I make the OP feel bad and that her home wouldn't be good? Puhlease - no where did I say that or imply that, what I did say was surprising her mother-in-law could be a bad idea. Not lying, I think it would be in the best interest for EVERYONE involved to have her help pick the puppy out.

Hopefully the OP will come back, I think it's a sad situation her family is in and I wish them the best.

 

[tac_1]

Oh dear God here we go again!!..........


dogsbestfriend, I think it's a WONDERFUL idea to get your mother-in-law a pup. Afterall, since she IS losing her husband, a companion could prove to be a reason to get up in the morning when all is said and done. If you like the looks of this pup, go see what type of living environment he's been in and that he's healthy. Then, no matter WHAT friggin' registry he belongs to*unless he will be bred*, get him if you like him. I am SOOO very sorry to hear about your father-in-law's condition and wish you only the best hon.

 

[tac_1]

Well . . . if you look, they are now also breeding "schnoodles"

That link was simply a way for the OP to "see" what they look like, not to buy from.

 

[Lola.]

If you like the looks of this pup, go see what type of living environment he's been in and that he's healthy. Then, no matter WHAT friggin' registry he belongs to*unless he will be bred*, get him if you like him.

wow...

 

[iheartsammy]

wow...

I don't think you understand what tac is trying to say...

and to the OP I really wish you the best with this puppy! I'm so sorry for your father-in-law, I'm sure a little companion would cheer her up...

 

[Lola.]

I don't think you understand what tac is trying to say...

Then please explain.

 

[~Tucker&Me~]

Here's what I think you should do.

Get your deposit back. This breeder doesn't sound very good, and I would be *very* suspicious. No GOOD breeder would sell a puppy if they couldn't meet the new owner. They would want them to pick it out, because they would want to make sure the personality of the puppy and the owner would work. I know it has been mentioned that the OP could take the puppy if it didn't work. That's great. But wouldn't your mom get kind of attached, and feel bad giving up the puppy, even if it was too you? And why put the dog through unnecassary stress? What's the point. Trust me, let her pick it out.
Buy your mother a stuffed animal and a nice leash and collar. On the card, say that you are going to help her pick out a best friend.
Then *together*, look on petfinder for an older, or at least young adult poodle. Your mother is probably quite stressed out as it is, and puppies are a TON of work. Can she handle all the stress of a puppy?
Chewing, barking, peeing, biting... The list goes on.

Anyhow, I wish you the best of luck. I feel bad for you, and know what it feels like to be in that kind of situation.
*Hugs*

~Tucker