Owning Exotic Animals.....

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We are getting a chinchilla. We were on the fence with a ferret and decided that wouldnt be a good idea for us so we are going with a chin.

SO yes I agree with exotics.

And smkie we are going through a breeder not a store ;)
 

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Most bans would not put them any differently than a tiger. "Exotic" means anything that isn't a dog or cat or goat or horse.
That was kind of my point. There needs to be a new differentiation as to what is considered 'exotic'. Ferrets, chins, gerbils etc are not exotic, they are now domestic animals.

For wild animals I think there should be regulation on where you can get them, to make sure more animals are not taken from the wild, nor are byb.
 

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Breeze, good luck! I had chins as a child and they are definitely NOT an easy pet...and not for me. But I do love seeing the pictures of the ones on here (hint, hint)
 

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Not much more then a ferret really. We have looked into both and a Chin fits it better. Our breeder has informed us as well as giving us links to check out. We arent going into this blind. We have until next fall to do the research.
 

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If you think it'll be a good fit, then great. They are TOTALLY different from ferrets (which I've never owned, but have played with). Or Rabbits...or any small animal. One thing I should say is that they are VERY easily frightened, particularly by small children. Even if the kids are really good with the animals, every time they make a sudden movement or squeal, it's going to frighten the animal.

Also, I'm sure you've already read this, but unless you've got AC I wouldn't want a chinchilla in Florida. Above 70 degrees they can get heat stroke...you can manage it with refrigerated rocks and stuff, but it's something to keep in mind.
 

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I have ac I know about that and already have rocks picked out and the breeder has said she will be finding a good kids chin in her rescue or giving us a baby she said the sounds are only a big deal at first, in fact 2 have. The care is not much more then a ferret they are totally different but in a way thats better for us.

Ive spent hours reading on them and talking to breeders and owners.
 

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My feeling is that domestic animals are geared to be with humans. Wild animals should be left to be wild and live life the way they were designed and equipped....with a few exceptions, like some smaller rodents or some retiles and some birds. But animals like lions, tigers, bears, wolves, primates and many others should be off limits to just every Tom, Dick and Harry and only zoos and wild life sanctuaries or some other select kind of place with special licensing and special knoweldge should keep wild animals and it should be kept to a minimum. I just think humans interfer too much sometimes. Why can't the human race leave these poor animals alone? Haven't we done enough damage already with dogs and cats? As it is, too many people can't even take care of their dogs. I can't even begin to imagine the horrors so many wild animals would live with if most of the general public could own whatever kind of wild animal their little, selfish whims would dictate.
 

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Macaws and birds like that don't see a problem with people owning them. Reptiles, rodents,and ferrets I see no problem owning them. I own two chinchillas they are consider exotic.
Just to point out (NOT to you)... ferrets are not wild animals. There is no such thing as a wild ferret, they are not domesticated, they are domestic. They are bred down from the European Polecats... and would die in the wild.
 

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I am for exotic ownership but with regulations and permits. I know many wolf, fox, coyote, and coydog/wolfdog owners on my other forum. Their dogs often get more space and interaction than many in zoos.

I've also experienced the other side of this... I had a few friends with monkeys and exotics in houston that did not get proper care. I remember working in the animal shelter and getting a full grown lioness surrendered. I had a neighbor that kept a tiger inside his house... I think when you're dealing with WILD animals and particularly large predators there needs to be restrictions and things like enclosure size requirements and fence requirements. It is different than dealing with any kind of dog and should be treated as such. I don't really see a slippery slope through regulation. I just think there has to be a middle ground somewhere...

I also agree that ferrets and chins and the like should be not considered exotics anymore. They've been domesticated for quite some time now.
 

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Breeze good luck with your chin! I am just really not a chin person but ours is very sweet and easy to handle. Our first chinchilla was WILD though. Oh and they live a LONG time- as long or longer than a dog. Just a good thing to keep in mind. Scout is 7 years old now and going strong.
 

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THis topic gives me one gynormous flash back on the animal warehouse where I worked for a year. I thought I was helping, honest to God, to help the sick and injured, but I will never know. I will not put anything in a cage or tank, ever since. All i can say is if you get it from a petstore, your doing no better than a puppymill.
If you buy from a reputable breeder from rat and mouse on out, then that is better.

If you consider that they will need just as expensive of vet care, that is better.
IF you research out the wazooooo about the proper way to set up a tank instead of rushing home filling it with water and dumping in an assortment of fish, if you do it RIGHT, that is better.
IF you understand that birds and tortoises are a long time commitment, not a temp enjoyment, that is better.
If you understand that birds develop very deep bonds and that often it can tear them up if that bond is broken, that is better.

Read and read some more and then wait, save, and do it right, that would be better.
The whole thing makes me want to go weep.
Eh, my ferrets are in a cage for 20 hours of the day. They have more than double the space they need, especially considering they are just sleeping the whole time. Pet store ferrets are HORRIBLE, and I will NEVER buy a ferret from a pet store. The place they get them from, is a ferret-mill. NONE of my guys are bought from pet stores... by me. They all were, yes, but then they all, for whatever reason, found themselves needing a home and I took them in. I have not even paid money for any of them.
 

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Breeze good luck with your chin! I am just really not a chin person but ours is very sweet and easy to handle. Our first chinchilla was WILD though. Oh and they live a LONG time- as long or longer than a dog. Just a good thing to keep in mind. Scout is 7 years old now and going strong.
Oh I know easily 15 years. Thats why we want a baby or young chin is the handling.
 

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I'm just getting images in my head of people letting their tigers and lions run free around the neighborhood to poop like some people do with dogs. Backyard cougar breeders and such as well. Just like dogs and other pets, these types of animals would end up with irresponsible people. And while a dog can be dangerous (and yes even deadly in some cases), one of these large cats would be even worse if left loose to wander.

I think some sort of ownership regulation would be a good idea, but as to who should decide what that would be I don't know.
*imagines trying to chase tigers out of my trash cans like the neighborhood cats* :eek:

I agree with labrynth.......and also with whoever said 'new definitions' of exotics are in order.

I have an amazon red lored parrot, I love him and he loves me.........but really, sometimes I feel sad for him not being in south america flying free and doing all they do in the wild. Not that Marty was ever born free, this life is all he knows (domestic/house/cage life)..........but I think somewhere inside of him, he knows there's supposed to be ''more'
 

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Domestic (adj) tame; domesticated.

If they are domestic, they were domesticated over a period of time.
By definition, ferrets were never domesticated... as there has never been and will never be wild ferrets. Black-footed ferrets, yes, but that is nothing like the ferrets people have as pets. Actually, the domestic ferrets are much closer to polecats (who they were bred down from) then black-footed ferrets.
 

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So...if owning some animals should require X amount of space and Y fencing and Z knowledge/experience, then where is the line drawn? At rodents and snakes? At dogs and cats? At dogs under 20 pounds? At goldfish? I can't say I'd be thrilled to find out my neighbor was raising tigers, but as Romy pointed out, it's a slippery slope.
I don't know about where you are but here horses require 1/2 an acre per head. It isn't really enforced but its still a reqirement.
 

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I really dislike Animal Planet's 'Fatal Attractions'. They make it seem like owning an exotic animal as a death sentence for the owner. I have not seen one episode where the attack wasn't provoked or the person was mishandling the animal.


My neighbor owns two cougars. This cougar was owned(?)/trained by them.

YouTube - TV Commercial Mercury Cougar 1975
 

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The hardest part for me to get over when someone says that they want to own an exotic such as a bear, lion, monkey, etc. is WHY??

Why on earth would you want to own a monkey? I sometimes can't sleep when I see reports of bears wondering around. When I lived in Pa we could hear mama bear calling to her cubs and it left me rather uneasy. To have something like that living in close proximity to me was enough. What is the point of owning large predatory animals. Unless you are wealthy or a zoo I don't see how you could properly enrich their lives.

Ferrets, rats, gerbils, parrots, chins etc I don't view in the same light as the above mentioned. All of these are able to be stimulated and kept happy by the right owners, but just as with all animal ownership there will be people that don't do it right or care to. It happens with dogs and cats just as easily.
 

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I don't agree with owning animals such as lions, tigers, things like that. People can barely take proper care of a dog. It scares me to think of them with an animal as powerful as a tiger. 0_o Plus I don't think it's quite humane to keep an animal built for roaming miles of territory in a cage. I don't want to go seizing animals from the very few people with the know-how to keep them properly or anything like that. But I do believe that wild animals should live in the wild.

I do think it's illegal in the states to buy or sell primates now.
 

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