Our dachshund has rear leg paralysis. Advice needed please.

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We have a 6 year old dachshund mix.. Here is a brief history.. About two months ago he woke up unable to walk good. My wife thought he had a stroke. We carried him outside to go potty and his back legs were just slipping out from under him.. He was still somewhat able to use them but not able to hold himself up. While we waited for our vets office to open we were looking at him on our couch. Pressing certain areas to see if anything / anywhere hurt. He never yelped at anything.. Then my wife seen what looked like a lima bean coming out from his neck.

We got him to the vet the minute they opened up and they immediately thought it was his back (common in dachshunds). They said the thing we found was a tick. They removed the tick and gave him a steroid shot. He was 100% within 4 hours. We thought it was very strange that the tick wasn’t the cause as we read it was able to cause temporary paralysis. They didn’t do any x-rays or anything.

Now, this past week… Wednesday he started having trouble getting up stairs.. We took him to a different vet and he said he thought it was a swollen disc and gave us anti inflammatory pills (non steroidal). He said he should be better in a day.. The next day he did seem 100%. We took him on Friday over my parents for a picnic and he still seemed to be fine..

Saturday he woke up and it was just like 2 months ago.. He couldn’t barely use his rear legs again. We called the vet we had just taken him to but they were closed. We left a message but didn’t hear back from her. We had a busy day Saturday and when we got home Saturday night we decided to take him to an emergency 24 hour vet.

The vet took x-rays and didn’t see any disc problems but he said he still felt that is what it was. That x-rays don’t always show disc problems. He gave us all our options which included transporting our dog that night to an emergency place where he would get back surgery ($3,000 - $4,000) and that the post op care would be very tough. We couldn’t do that option so the next thing was to give him a steroid shot and then pills every 12 hours.. That is what we did.

Sunday he showed no signs of improvement.. We were very heart broken and figured that when we went to the vet on Monday he would tell us there was nothing more we could do. Well we went to the vet yesterday and he said he wasn’t ready to give up on him yet (which was a huge relief to us). He said he has seen dogs come back from this and said that he reacted to him probing his feet (which the ER vet said he did not do on Saturday night). He said to keep him in a cage for 1-4 weeks so he can’t move and aggravate anything.

I’m not really sure what advice I am needing.. We just aren’t ready to let him go at such a young age and with him being perfectly healthy besides this. Hopefully he will start to regain mobility in his legs.. I’ve seen on TV before some type of cart that has wheels on it but I’m not sure if this would apply to him or not..

Sorry for the long post and thanks for reading.

Buddy


 

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Such a sweet face !!! So sorry that you're going through this .....I guess it's not unusual in Doxies . Keep us posted !
 

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He needs an MRI, imo. Puppy of mine just had one for pain/lamness and it revealed issues that needed surgical intervention. I really highly advise an MRI...then at least you know what is..and is not the issue...

Hope he is feeling better soon!
 
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My dachshund Cartman's mother went through the same thing. She was only about 5-6 at the time. Her owner Put her down! I personally was completely against that option...but they didn't have the money to pay for back surgery which is what she needed. They even say now they wish they didn't, and wish they would have gotten a loan or something!

Definitely don't give up on him! I am SOO lucky that with 7 dachshunds (And having a total of 9 dachshunds altogether counting the 2 deceased ones) that I have yet to have to deal with any form of back problem and I hope I never have to!!
 

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He hasn't pooped since Sunday night.. We are helping him pee though. Should we be concerned that he hasn't pooped and is there anyway to assist in that?

Thanks!
 

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I am attaching a link I hope that will help..
http://www.sniksnak.com/doghealth/degen-disk.html
However- sometimes disc disease is masked by meningitus. We went through this with my girl Femka. She was showing all the signs of disc disease at the time, but was not improving. It took almost two weeks for the signs to become obvious.
I am asking you to also ask your vet about a broad spectrum antibiotic. Meningitus, just like in humans, takes weeks before the obvious signs show up but once the signs show, its hard to save their life. The vet we had now as common practice gives antibiotics at the show of disc type diseases. As stated to me by two specialist, canine meningitus is more common than most realize. Its also a gut wrenching fact that several of Femkas litter mates were put down under the believe that it was advanced disc disease. ( We also thought we were going to loose femka as well.) Within a matter of 3 days she went from unable to walk to just fine. If I remember right it was cepholoxine as the antibiotic ..
Could be also why your dog improved after a surgery- typical to give antibiotics in a surgery.. Just ask your vet- a question can not hurt and could make allllllll the difference in the world like it did with Femka.
 

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I am attaching a link I hope that will help..
http://www.sniksnak.com/doghealth/degen-disk.html
However- sometimes disc disease is masked by meningitus. We went through this with my girl Femka. She was showing all the signs of disc disease at the time, but was not improving. It took almost two weeks for the signs to become obvious.
I am asking you to also ask your vet about a broad spectrum antibiotic. Meningitus, just like in humans, takes weeks before the obvious signs show up but once the signs show, its hard to save their life. The vet we had now as common practice gives antibiotics at the show of disc type diseases. As stated to me by two specialist, canine meningitus is more common than most realize. Its also a gut wrenching fact that several of Femkas litter mates were put down under the believe that it was advanced disc disease. ( We also thought we were going to loose femka as well.) Within a matter of 3 days she went from unable to walk to just fine. If I remember right it was cepholoxine as the antibiotic ..
Could be also why your dog improved after a surgery- typical to give antibiotics in a surgery.. Just ask your vet- a question can not hurt and could make allllllll the difference in the world like it did with Femka.
Thanks for the reply. He actually just got put on an antibiotic (not sure which one) because we seen some puss at the end of his penis on Sunday night. The vet put him on it just in case he was getting an infection.

We never got Buddy surgery. The first time he had issues we thought it was tick related but he also got the steroid shot.. Not sure which one cured him then.
 

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Ask the vet if its broad spectrum.. I am totally serious- we went from thinking we were going to loose her to totally fine. It was frightening. The real signs of what the problem was showed up so late we would have lost her for sure.. The specialist said that many times people will decide to euthenize thinking that " pain management medications" are not working when actually its low lying meningitus.
However- keep this in mind. In our case it lays dorminant in our girl. That means when it shows up again paralized in the rear, can not turn her head, back on the antibiocs she goes. So far we have had one more flare up. In her it seems to show up when stressed or her thyroid crashes- but its linked to the immune system.
Good luck and keep us posted. You can pm me if you wish. If you live in Virginia I can give you the name of the specialist but really- the medications worked. She went from not able to walk or move her head to 3 days later back to her " prancing paws" personality.
God bless and in prayers..
 

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Thanks for the reply. He actually just got put on an antibiotic (not sure which one) because we seen some puss at the end of his penis on Sunday night. The vet put him on it just in case he was getting an infection.

We never got Buddy surgery. The first time he had issues we thought it was tick related but he also got the steroid shot.. Not sure which one cured him then.
Steriods slow down the immunes system reaction. That might have slowed this progression down.. ( meaning the inflamation as a result etc.. )
 

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Ask the vet if its broad spectrum.. I am totally serious- we went from thinking we were going to loose her to totally fine. It was frightening. The real signs of what the problem was showed up so late we would have lost her for sure.. The specialist said that many times people will decide to euthenize thinking that " pain management medications" are not working when actually its low lying meningitus.
However- keep this in mind. In our case it lays dorminant in our girl. That means when it shows up again paralized in the rear, can not turn her head, back on the antibiocs she goes. So far we have had one more flare up. In her it seems to show up when stressed or her thyroid crashes- but its linked to the immune system.
Good luck and keep us posted. You can pm me if you wish. If you live in Virginia I can give you the name of the specialist but really- the medications worked. She went from not able to walk or move her head to 3 days later back to her " prancing paws" personality.
God bless and in prayers..
What does broad spectrum mean? Ask the vet if what is broad spectrum?

Also, I tried AOL IM'ing you but got that you were offline.
 

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First of all, to forstall responses, I am not claiming to be a vet, nor do i have hostile intent. I really hope your dachshund improves on the antibiotics. This reply really has nothing to do with your situation--your doxie has just the sweetest face. i am sure you love him very much.

I am not a vet, I am an unlicensed physician who presently works for the Starbucks as a barista. Nevertheless, in my experience, thyroids do not crash, and meningitis does not lie dormant. I have done a little research on the issue, and it IS possible for a dog to have recurrent meningitis, but it is aseptic meningitis and is not caused by bacteria.

I feel it is important to try to verify facts before posting unless you post a disclaimer stating that you are just going on your understanding, and you really don't know what you are talking about.

If you are going to pose as having knowledge about an issue, it is important that you verify your facts and at least learn to spell the names of diseases and medications with some accuracy.

Sorry, I just hate doing this over and over.
 

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I think she was on clavamox or cephalexin/ cepholoxine. ( obviously I no longer have the bottles and having just moved can not find the doctors report.) But your vet will know which one is a broad spectrum.
 

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Myelograms are usually what the vets I work for prefer for dogs with suspected disc disease. Steroids bring down inflammation, which relieves the pressure on the spinal cord and clears the symptoms.

If you can afford it, a referral to a neurologist would be the best option.

That your guy can feel his feet is definitely a good sign! Hang in there! I hope he recovers from this quickly.
 

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Hi there,

I'm new to this forum and joined after seeing your post for help. I'm so sorry for what your Dachshund is going through. I also have Dachshunds (and Rottweilers). I wanted to let you know that there is a wonderful support network called Dodger's list for those experiencing back issues (IVDD) with their Dachsies. Please go to the website immediately and also join their message board as there is a wealth of info info to be found and many, many others who have and are going through exactly what you are experiencing, and will be better able to assist you and offer guidance. Below I have also copy and pasted their emergency faq for you. I wish you the best of luck for a full recovery.. :)

Dodger's List
http://www.dodgerslist.com/

Dodger's list Message Board
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Dodgerslist/

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DODGER'S LIST FAQS - Important things to know

1. Always crate your dog whenever you suspect a back problem. It is always better to be safe then sorry. Crating will help keep the dog from further injury. The crate should be 1.5 x 2.5 the lenth of the dog. The dog should stay in the crate 24/7. Carried to and from potty place. Stand in one spot. Dog may only take minimal steps the harness and 6' leash allow.

2. Dog MUST be under care of a vet. Don't wait... and if you lack confidence in your vet or seem to be getting nowhere, don't hesitate to ask for a second opinion or better yet a referral to a specialist (neuro or surgeon). It is better to have an unnecessary consultation with a vet neurosurgeon, then to not have one soon enough. Our advice is to get to a specialist if at all possible.

3. Board-certified neuros and ortho surgical specialists:
http://www.acvim.org/Specialist/Search.aspx
http://www.acvs.org/AnimalOwners/DiplomateDirectory/

4. The first 48-72 hours are critical for decision making. Time is of the essence especially if your dog is totally down with no deep pain sensation. The last best chance for a good surgical outcome is within a window 12-48 hours from loosing the last of neuro functions: deep pain sensation.

5. We recommend a variety of supplements and holistic remedies, none of which are "guaranteed" to work....but surgery is not *guaranteed* either. These things have worked for some of our members in the past, and are often worth trying. .

6. You must be honest and open with your vet about everything you are giving your dog: food AND supplements. This is to avoid any possible side effects caused by interaction of any of those substances. Your vet MUST be made aware of what you are doing, even if it seems insignificant to you.

7. If you notice any licking or if your dog starts looking at toes or limbs like he's just been stung, get an E collar on ASAP, since it could be the nerves trying to reconnect. This gives the dog "tingles" and it is possible he may try to chew his limbs or at the spot where it is tingling. Be sure to call your vet (specialist preferred) and discuss if medication such as neruontin should be given. This can be a very dangerous and life-threatening situation.
 

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Thank you very much. I joined the board yesterday and have gotten a TON of WONDERFUL advice from them. Thank you!
 

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That's wonderful! I'm so glad to hear this! :) Please do come back to your thread and give updates and let everyone know how things are going.

Thank you very much. I joined the board yesterday and have gotten a TON of WONDERFUL advice from them. Thank you!
 

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are you guys by any chance leaving macadamia nuts lying around? They cause temporary paralysis to dogs' rear legs for up to 72 hours. But it sounds like he's been having the problem for months now.
 

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