Opinions. Am I blood thirsty?

[Dakotah]

I agree with Romy, Amber, and others like them.

Sweet Lord, the day someone breaks into this house... Well they better get ready to meet Jesus.
Between 18 lb Mickey (who is the world's best alert dog and would more than likely protect grandma and I), the armory dad has in his room, plus the knives in my room, and dad's Army training, the intruder would be in for a world of hurt.

I am SO glad y'all are ok. (((hugs)))

 

[Dogdragoness]

If he was looking for a knife, I hate to think what he was planning to do to you and Paul if you hadn't woken up. *shudders* Makes me wonder what he did to the police that made them feel threatened enough to kill him.

EDIT: I voted that he got what he deserved, though that's not quite how I'd word it.. More like, he knowingly put himself in that position for no reason than to get gain by harming and threatening others. Most criminals understand the risks of their lifestyle.

ETAETA: And I'm REALLY glad you guys are safe. That must be so terrifying to have happen.

OMG! I am glad you were safe & you (hopefully) got your stuff back, god was looking out for you with the timely way your OH woke up like he did.

At the ranch, I sleep with a shotgun on the other side of my bed (not visa me from the door but well within reach) in the event of a break in.

 

[Fran101]

I don't think you are bloodthirsty.

But I don't think I think he "deserved" to die. I don't think people deserve to die. (see edit below)

He deserved to get caught, deserved to do time, to pay his dues, to return the lost items..but I don't think people deserve to die for crimes like that. or that other human beings should jubilate in the idea of taking human life.
Is it sometimes necessary? of course. I just don't think it's a joyous occasion. I would much rather a criminal caught and jailed than dead. Doing bad things doesn't make for a bad person..there are of course bad people, but who is to say this guy was some violent horrible criminal?

EDIT: I mean't I don't think people deserve to die for crimes (such as theft or break-ins or drug dealing)

 

[Southpaw]

Nope, this wouldn't bother me at all.

Something tells me this guy must have been a threat if that's the way it ended. He had it coming IMO.

 

[AdrianneIsabel]

Err... Some people deserve death.

That is all.

 

[Fran101]

Err... Some people deserve death.

That is all.

badly worded sentence.
I meant I don't think people should die for theft like crimes (drug dealing, break-ins, shop lifting) in my opinion.
I just don't think breaking into homes makes this person a violent sociopath out to kill everyone in town and he needed to die.

He needed to be caught for sure.. I just don't tend to make judgments on what kind of person "deserves" to live.

 

[yv0nne]

Err... Some people deserve death.

That is all.

Yup.. though a break-in with only a loss of goods probably doesn't deserve death but either way, glad the situation was handled.

 

[AdrianneIsabel]

Okay, yeah, I totally agree with that.

 

[ACooper]

No, I don't think you're bloodthirsty. And in your position I would probably feel exactly the same way.

I'm not sure I would exactly phrase it as he got what he "deserved." More like... well what did he expect? Sometimes when you make certain choices, certain outcomes are possible.

Agree with Romy and Sass.

I won't judge to the point of saying 'he got what he deserved' because I have no idea WHAT he may or may not deserve.

I am VERY big on personal responsibility. He made the choices, he knew the risks, therefore I'd consider it his own fault and nobody elses.

EDIT: DRAT! I keep putting the trivia answer in the title box! Twice in a flipping row! :lol-sign:

 

[ACooper]

badly worded sentence.
I meant I don't think people should die for theft like crimes (drug dealing, break-ins, shop lifting) in my opinion.
I just don't think breaking into homes makes this person a violent sociopath out to kill everyone in town and he needed to die.

He needed to be caught for sure.. I just don't tend to make judgments on what kind of person "deserves" to live.

While I can agree with you that <insert property> isn't worth a human life, the criminal weighs their worth against his OWN life and decides.

I personally would never want to hurt anyone.......ever. I definitely wouldn't want to kill anyone to protect money or any property. But you break into MY home where MY children live I will assume the worst because NOTHING on this Earth means more to me than them. I WILL blow your sh!t away without a moments remorse or pity. Don't mess with or around my children.

The end.

 

[yoko]

I've had some friends and family get broken into and had things stolen. It's not just stuff they take.

One of my friends has two young sons. When they got their stuff stolen it was Christmas and whoever broke into her house took everything. Even her kids VHSs were gone. It wasn't just financially devistating it was an immensely stressful time for her.

She was afraid to go home with her kids but had no where else to stay. She lost a ton of sleep because she didn't want to fall asleep in case someone came back when they were home and it affected her work.

These people aren't just taking stuff they are forcibly entering what many people perceive as their safe zone.

Like I said I do feel for his family that has to live with his decision but I 100% do not feel bad for him at all.

After having people I am close to be victims to people like this my sympathy for them is pretty nonexistent.

 

[Fran101]

While I can agree with you that <insert property> isn't worth a human life, the criminal weighs their worth against his OWN life and decides.

I personally would never want to hurt anyone.......ever. I definitely wouldn't want to kill anyone to protect money or any property. But you break into MY home where MY children live I will assume the worst because NOTHING on this Earth means more to me than them. I WILL blow your sh!t away without a moments remorse or pity. Don't mess with or around my children.

The end.

Personal defense is a whole 'nother issue IMO If this guy was caught in her home, if he had them cornered, if he didn't run..that is fight or flight, your life or theirs..

I am talking about repayment for crime, getting caught fleeing from the scene etc..
AKA: If a man holds a convenience store up and steals from the register and runs, I don't think he deserves to be shot in the head and killed to uphold justice.
Yes, he stole. Yes, he scared the person working behind the counter. Yes, he could've hurt people.
But the person was running away.. he deserves to be caught and trailed for his crimes. Not death. IMO

Now if the guy held up the store, the man working behind the counter had his young daughter playing at his feet or just felt his life was in danger and pulled out a gun and killed the man.. that is SELF DEFENSE. That isn't the guy that worked there thinking "this man deserves to die for holding up my store!" that is the guy thinking "this man is going to hurt me, I could die, it's me or him." That is self defense.

Of course it's agreed that these criminals did things that were WRONG. Either way. I'm not excusing them at all. And I do think that when you go out doing crime, you kind of get whats coming to you when it comes to physical harm..you made a choice.

I'm just saying, I don't think he necessarily deserved to die for stealing.
he DESERVED to get caught.

I don't think a criminal being caught or shot/killed fleeing from the scene is some great tragedy... I just don't think it's a happy thing either. This was a person, who did a bad thing.. but maybe not a bad person..

 

[sparks19]

If he was looking for a knife, I hate to think what he was planning to do to you and Paul if you hadn't woken up. *shudders* Makes me wonder what he did to the police that made them feel threatened enough to kill him.

EDIT: I voted that he got what he deserved, though that's not quite how I'd word it.. More like, he knowingly put himself in that position for no reason than to get gain by harming and threatening others. Most criminals understand the risks of their lifestyle.

ETAETA: And I'm REALLY glad you guys are safe. That must be so terrifying to have happen.

While I can agree with you that <insert property> isn't worth a human life, the criminal weighs their worth against his OWN life and decides.

I personally would never want to hurt anyone.......ever. I definitely wouldn't want to kill anyone to protect money or any property. But you break into MY home where MY children live I will assume the worst because NOTHING on this Earth means more to me than them. I WILL blow your sh!t away without a moments remorse or pity. Don't mess with or around my children.

The end.

I've had some friends and family get broken into and stolen. It's not just stuff they take.

One of my friends has two young sons. When they got their stuff stolen it was Christmas and whoever broke into her house took everything. Even her kids VHSs were gone. It wasn't just financially devistating it was an immensely stressful time for her.

She was afraid to go home with her kids but had no where else to stay. She lost a ton of sleep because she didn't want to fall asleep in case someone came back when they were home and it affected her work.

These people aren't just taking stuff they are forcibly entering what many people perceive as their safe zone.

Like I said I do feel for his family that has to love with his decision but I 100% do not feel bad for him at all.

After having people I am close to be victims to people like this my sympathy for them is pretty nonexistent.

all of these.

While I don't nessecarily think he DESERVED it in the sense that he should die for breaking and entering or for stealing but HE made the choices he made knowing full well what the consequences could be. he had no regard for his own life or anyone elses and he faced the consequences.

Also what Yoko said, they aren't just stealing THINGS, material items that can be replaced. They are stealing peoples sense of security, their peace of mind and doing something that could possibly affect that persons life forever.

 

[LindaJD]

I don't know if I would say he deserved to die, to be honest I would have to see his criminal record to say that.
I don't see why you are so bothered by what other people are saying to you about. They are your feelings and if you don't feel bad about the situation, what they think shouldn't matter to you in anyway.

 

[ACooper]

................I don't think a criminal being caught or shot/killed fleeing from the scene is some great tragedy... I just don't think it's a happy thing either. This was a person, who did a bad thing.. but maybe not a bad person..

Ah, then we are on the same page.

 

[Dogdragoness]

I don't think a criminal being caught or shot/killed fleeing from the scene is some great tragedy... I just don't think it's a happy thing either. This was a person, who did a bad thing.. but maybe not a bad person..

He was looking for a knife, which makes me think hat unfortunately he was a bad person it sucks that there are people like this.

It's lucky they woke up when they did.

For me it's the pets, someone breaks in where me & my dogs sleep, the game is on & you will get your ass pumped full of buckshot.

 

[Romy]

Personal defense is a whole 'nother issue IMO If this guy was caught in her home, if he had them cornered, if he didn't run..that is fight or flight, your life or theirs..

I am talking about repayment for crime, getting caught fleeing from the scene etc..
AKA: If a man holds a convenience store up and steals from the register and runs, I don't think he deserves to be shot in the head and killed to uphold justice.
Yes, he stole. Yes, he scared the person working behind the counter. Yes, he could've hurt people.
But the person was running away.. he deserves to be caught and trailed for his crimes. Not death. IMO

Now if the guy held up the store, the man working behind the counter had his young daughter playing at his feet or just felt his life was in danger and pulled out a gun and killed the man.. that is SELF DEFENSE. That isn't the guy that worked there thinking "this man deserves to die for holding up my store!" that is the guy thinking "this man is going to hurt me, I could die, it's me or him." That is self defense.

Of course it's agreed that these criminals did things that were WRONG. Either way. I'm not excusing them at all. And I do think that when you go out doing crime, you kind of get whats coming to you when it comes to physical harm..you made a choice.

I'm just saying, I don't think he necessarily deserved to die for stealing.
he DESERVED to get caught.

I don't think a criminal being caught or shot/killed fleeing from the scene is some great tragedy... I just don't think it's a happy thing either. This was a person, who did a bad thing.. but maybe not a bad person..

I agree with all of this. Which really makes me wonder what happened when the police confronted him. SA's police force has their own policies and stuff that are probably different than ours, but somehow I doubt shooting a fleeing thief in the back is their usual way of handling a situation.

 

[Snark]

Nope, not blood-thirsty.

Live by the sword, die by the sword - he made his choice, no one forced him to break into peoples' homes and, as noted, this wasn't his first offense. Since he was apparently looking for a weapon, I am inclined to think the worst of him and have no sympathy for his fate.

 

[JessLough]

Pretty much, I agree with the things Fran said.

He was looking for a knife,

Devil's advocate here, but you don't KNOW he was looking for a knife. Unless he said it, you don't KNOW what he was looking for. I mean, if he was going through the drawer, where they have so many knives, he would have grabbed one. Especially once he was caught (though, once again, if he grabbed one after he was caught, there is no saying that's what he was LOOKING for)

 

[Romy]

Pretty much, I agree with the things Fran said.




Devil's advocate here, but you don't KNOW he was looking for a knife. Unless he said it, you don't KNOW what he was looking for. I mean, if he was going through the drawer, where they have so many knives, he would have grabbed one. Especially once he was caught (though, once again, if he grabbed one after he was caught, there is no saying that's what he was LOOKING for)

Thing is, crooks that break into a house when the homeowners are home, intending to get in and out as quickly as possible without being noticed with maximum loot, don't bother with the knife drawer. Honestly, they don't bother with any kitchen drawer. They're looking for high value crap that can be resold with minimum fuss.

Purses, ipods, cameras, tools, etc. I don't care how high dollar your kitchen knife set is, a thief isn't going to sit down and sift through the drawer on the off chance there's a Henkels santoku knife for him to try and resell.