Ontario Breed Legislation 2005

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people fought it tooth and nail when it came up to begin with almost 2 years ago and it still got passed. people have been fighting it for years and continue. ive been saying for a lONG TIME that these breeds are next.

for starters, dont support the towns. dont shop there, dont show there. dont travel through and buy gas there.
 

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lol Dobe its hard to not shop, show and spend money here when I live in it...
Can't re-located because of College as well (I dont want to switch midway).

How can you get involved in this in helping to try and prevent it from going further??

Riots breed is on the "up and coming" list as well..
 

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If you can't ban the owner, ban the dog... sad but reality.

Dog owners are not always responsible. Just yesterday, okay, it's a poodle, but still, it was unleashed, and obviously untrained. When it saw Yoshi, it came growling and was being aggressive. Not responding to its owners call to stay away.

Yoshi is not trained either, but I have him on a leash at all times for the time being.

Now, remove the poodle and place a bull terrier instead. Yoshi is DEAD.
 

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why would yoshi be dead? that right there is characterising a certain breed and making assumptions just because a dog is a certain breed...
 

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If you can't ban the owner, ban the dog... sad but reality.

Dog owners are not always responsible. Just yesterday, okay, it's a poodle, but still, it was unleashed, and obviously untrained. When it saw Yoshi, it came growling and was being aggressive. Not responding to its owners call to stay away.

Yoshi is not trained either, but I have him on a leash at all times for the time being.

Now, remove the poodle and place a bull terrier instead. Yoshi is DEAD.

Why would your dog be dead if you replaced the poodle with a pitbull ? I cant believe i'm even entertaining this :rolleyes:
 
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why would you want to give your dog to the pound to be tested on, they should ban the iraspansable people not the dogs )-:
 
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Summer,there is not much we can do now.It is passed and in effect.Thanks to irresponsible dog owners,good owners wont be able to keep these breeds anymore.So many breeds can and likely eventually will be added to our ban.It is scary that they can discriminate so easily based on only a few dogs of one breeds actions.
 

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I know that they can revise a law and change it, changes happen every day to the criminal code. I have to buy a new copy every two years because of the amount of changes that go through, so i'm sure there is still things we can do to help eliminate this ridiculous law.
 

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Laws can definately be re-written. Now how to join the fight, or even how much significance one person would bring to the field, I don't know.


But I do know that if legislation gets too stringent I'm gonna start owning a bunch of mixed breed animals.

How does a Labrashepherd sound? It'd have all the qualities of a normal German Shepherd, wouldn't look any different, have the same genotype as the norm of Shepherds, just be under a different name.

I don't see Labrashepherds on the ban list ;)
 

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solidstaffs:

aggressive toy poodle vs. aggressive pit bull.

VS.

small shih tzu

whadyagot?

zall am sayin'

plus, read my whole message. I'm sayin owners are irresponsible.
 

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brem said:
solidstaffs:

aggressive toy poodle vs. aggressive pit bull.

VS.

small shih tzu

whadyagot?

zall am sayin'

plus, read my whole message. I'm sayin owners are irresponsible.
I read your whole message, and it doesn't sound to me liek you are saying it's irresponsible owners.It reads like you are quite happy for the ban to be in effect
If you can't ban the owner, ban the dog... sad but reality.

Dog owners are not always responsible. Just yesterday, okay, it's a poodle, but still, it was unleashed, and obviously untrained. When it saw Yoshi, it came growling and was being aggressive. Not responding to its owners call to stay away.

Yoshi is not trained either, but I have him on a leash at all times for the time being.

Now, remove the poodle and place a bull terrier instead. Yoshi is DEAD.
You have hypotheticly put a bull terrier in the place of a poodle, WHY ?? We have had jack russels, labradores, and mongrels go for Floyd and he has just stood there and looked at them like what do you think you are doing. He has never shown any aggression towards them, and neither did my previous dogs. Make no mistake any dog that is not trained properly is dangerous (Even your little dog) A German shepard is more than capable of picking your dog up and killing it yet you chose to use the pitbull as an example. Your point was obviously that pitbulls are dangerous, when infact they are no more dangerous than any other breed.

If i have misread your post then i apologise, but thats how it reads to me.
 

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I'm not "happy" of the ban. All I'm saying is that you can't ban people and can't prevent them from reproducing. Henceforth, the only thing that can be done is to ban the breed.

Simple logic.

I'm a man.

I don't have emotions ;)
 

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Solidstaffs: I command you to find me Shih Tzu attacks reports on kids that are left disfigured, vs. Pit bull reports.

Thank you, come again. As Apu says.
 

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brem said:
I'm not "happy" of the ban. All I'm saying is that you can't ban people and can't prevent them from reproducing. Henceforth, the only thing that can be done is to ban the breed.

Simple logic.

I'm a man.

I don't have emotions ;)
I'm sorry but i dont agree with you one bit :mad: Man created this breed for his own reasons (we all know what those were) Now the purpose of the breed is illegal we should ban then brred and effectively wioe them out ? It's typical of mans ignorance and selfishness, that once something has served it's purpose to discard it. If we were having the same conversation about man wating to wipe out a WHOLE breed of any other animal i would suspect all of the so called animal lovers would come out of their closets and say how wrong it was, yet because it's happening to "Bull breeds" it doesn't matter because they are devil dogs, right ? There are plenty of brreds of dogs, that were bred for a specific purpose that have now been introduced into society and no longer perform their original purpose, mainly due to the work of some very good breeders working hard to breed dogs that can ajust to different surroundings and adapt. Sadly the pitbull and other Bull breeds will never get this oppertunity partly do do with ignorant statements like the ones you have made in this thread. With the right breeding and upbringing there is no reason these dogs cant be turned around, and become great animlas, as many of them already are (People just refuse to see past the menacing looks) If you were to lable coloured people the way that Bull breeds get labled there would be uproar.

These dogs have just as much right to be here as your little lap dog does, ignorance is bliss though i suppose :rolleyes:
 

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Solidstaffs: I command you to find me Shih Tzu attacks reports on kids that are left disfigured, vs. Pit bull reports.

Thank you, come again. As Apu says.
You can command me all you like, so because your little dog only leaves a little scar it makes it better does it ? You are a fool !!! :rolleyes:

Go and take a look at the registered dog bites last year, my guess would be that there are more reported little dog bites(But thats ok becasue they ae just little dogs) Than there is from bull breeds.
 

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