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with no sound you can still see people standing around while what looks like an old person being abused. Sound would help though.
 
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Not surprising . . . everyone standing around with their fingers up their asses breathing through their mouths :wall: I wish I could say I'm surprised dude isn't being accosted by an angry mob, or at least being confronted as to whether it's a stunt or he's a total douchebag.
 

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Meh, I don't think it has much to do with people being afraid of the law or being sued. I think it has WAY more to do with TV shows starting WAY back with Candid Camera and coming all the way to shows like Jackass.

You could see the looks on most of their faces, they figured it was a joke.......some were even snickering. You see something that outrageous and you just assume it must be a joke/trick/catch of some kind.

THAT is probably a more scary statement in our current society than being afraid of being sued IMO.
 

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I guess you could say there's a silver lining in that it was only a prank......
 

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You could see the looks on most of their faces, they figured it was a joke.......some were even snickering. You see something that outrageous and you just assume it must be a joke/trick/catch of some kind.
^This^
Although it's a very distasteful joke.
 
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My point is that since we have 911 we no longer need to have the back bone to do the right thing. Our personal safety is our number one concern.
 

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That's very true, although I'm not so sure it's the fault of 911. I think it's more about the loss of a sense of community in Western society. Everyone lives in a personal, private bubble. If it doesn't directly effect them, it's none of their business.
 

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My point is that since we have 911 we no longer need to have the back bone to do the right thing. Our personal safety is our number one concern.
I still don't see where the video reflects that. I saw none of those people whipping out phones to call 911 because the majority of them didn't think he was abusing his grandpa, they could see it was yet another stupid prank for attention. Store security called the cops to get rid of the idiots. The video was a FAIL because the best reaction they could come up with was the lady in the SUV asking him about it :rolleyes:

Unless you mean because the people watching didn't say something like "Grow up you idiots, we don't have time for your stupidity" and if that's the case, I still disagree. I wouldn't have said anything to them either, if they want to act stupid.......go ahead. If I thought for one moment he really WAS abusing his grandpa (or any person) I would have definitely made my feelings known to him and interfered in whatever way possible........even if it was calling 911.
 
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One of the few worthwhile things -- Hell, one of the few things, PERIOD I got from Charley was an intro to some of the better music from way back in his student radical wannabe days, lol.

There is, though, at least in my view of the world, way too much dependence on law enforcement to take care of us. We're willing victims, and willingly watch others being victimized because "it's not my job."

That willingness panders directly to anyone who wants to enforce their own will over us -- we'll take it because we have so enthusiastically embraced the doctrine of non-involvement.
 

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One of the few worthwhile things -- Hell, one of the few things, PERIOD I got from Charley was an intro to some of the better music from way back in his student radical wannabe days, lol.
I was introduce to that kind of music when I went to a summer camp run by Pete Seeger's brother and niece.
 

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Now THAT had to give you a great beginning of school, "What I Did On My Summer Vacation" essay :D
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Especially considering the year I went was also the year Sean Lennon went, and I very much remember them calling a meeting of the oldest campers (which included me) to ask us to keep an eye out for strange lurkers because they were sending Sean's bodyguards home...apparently it was a bit awkward trying to have him play softball while a crew of large men ran around the bases with him. :rofl1:
 

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What about individual responsibility? Just as little as first person shooter video games are responsible for Colombine and all other shootings, 911 is responsible for people not stepping up. It's a question of individual integrity and morals, not a law fearing society.
 
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I think the two feed off of each other, Jules. Where there is little personal integrity, responsibility or courage, there are those who are only too happy to sell out to anyone who will provide them with a sense of safety and security, no matter how false it is, and there is always someone waiting to take advantage of that, using the opportunity to spread the rot, to engender more fear and to use the ever-increasing power of that fear to shackle those who aren't ready to cower, to overwhelm them with sheer numbers.

Throw in a healthy dose of apathy, self-immersion and "better him than me" mentality and top it with desensitization and the excuses of "I thought it was another stunt" . . .

Too many people firmly believe that as long as they don't participate, they have no culpability, moral or otherwise.
 

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