On the news last night....

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Our local news covered what they believe is a huge puppy mill here. They took helicopter shots of row after row of kennels... with up to 4 dogs in a pen. No one lives there and it's filthy !! The lady has DVM in her ad and isn't a vet. They gave her site RAEBARK.com ....sickening !!!!
 

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Yuck! That is disgusting! I went to that website, and talk about a puppy mill! On her "available puppies" page, she mentions five or six different litters, all born in January. No reputable breeder would have six litters at a time.

I hope she gets what's coming to her.
 

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As of now their hands are tied...concerned folks brought it to the station's attention. She's licenced and they can't site her for neglect. I wish I had been listening more carefully as they did say how many dogs were there. I do hope they find a loop hole and shut her down. EliN and I should storm up there ! I couldn't believe the number of litters at the same time either !!
 

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I agree. Hopefully now that people are aware something is done quick, and hopefully by a no-kill shelter :( Let us know if you hear any thing else about this, grammy
 

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Someone sent me a link to this site and this article in particular..... and it does rather irritate me! This was a smear campaign from the get-go! The people who called it in had NO idea what was actually going on...they were looking at the kennels from about half a mile away or more through binoculars! They never actually went to the kennels! There are no row upon row upon row of kennels. And there are never more than two dogs per kennel! A male and a female..Occasionally there may be some of the "older" puppies, ones that are 3 to 4 months old that are in outside kennels. By the way, it is inaccurate to call these "pens" as the smallest one there is 12 feet by 14 feet! Most are much larger. Yes, the dogs do live outside and have food and water freely available as well as shelter. Yes, the kennelman's house was empty....after he destroyed the inside and ran off.....after he was told that he would not be allowed to sit around and neglect the dogs. He felt the dogs did not need to be watered more than every third day! He took over from a previous individual who was removed after he killed 4 of the dogs there, including the top stud! The owner of the kennel WAS a vet but is no longer practicing....The kennels were inspected several times by AKC reps and they said they were in good condition if not better than many! Sanchez invaded the property at a very early hour and was rude and demanding, when he was not granted what he wanted immediately, he called up a helicopter which he then had flown very very low over the kennels panicking the dogs and causing injuries! One of things many people forget is this is a KENNEL! Not someone who has a dog or two in the house and is breeding their pets. This is not a backyard breeder but someone who has spent over 30 years developing the lines used and has put titles on over 37 dogs! Occasionally the dogs do get hurt, they will fence fight which is not a good thing. Anyone who has ever had a dog who fence fights knows how easy it is to get hurt. When Sanchez did his little fly over, Indiana had had it's second warmest winter on record and it's wettest, this year is worse so yes, the dogs get muddy... German Shepherd Dogs are notorious for running their borders and all of them will border their area and no matter what you put down, they will damage the property. Concrete is very bad on their joints and feet so you use what is best. Actually, nothing is really good! I own three GSD's and my dogs are companions but they have trashed my yard and have brought half the mud in the known universe into the house! Also, one thing that was NOT mentioned in this entire thing, while the animal control officer wrote the owner up for cruelty, neglect, etc. he later dropped all charges AND turned around and purchased a puppy from her! In fact, it was the SECOND GSD he had bought from her and he admitted the first was the best dog he had ever owned and that was why he was getting a second! Doesn't sound like he is really against the kennel now does it? Yes, I was there when he was and was there when he made the purchase and also when he made the comments that he hoped he would not be charged too much as he was not going to go real hard on her and because I was there working with the dogs, and getting the puppy area cleaned up after the kennelman had run out, he said he would come by the next day and if it was okay, he would drop the charges which he did!! What strikes me most is how many people complained about the situation but no one has offered to help get things under control. Unlike the vast majority of kennels, the owner here does NOT kill off the older dogs. I am not sure how many people are aware of that but in kennels, breeding females are killed once they hit 7 years old! She has offered most of these dogs to anyone who wants them free of charge as long as they can prove they are going to a good home. Doesn't sound like someone who doesn't care? As for the 6 or 7 litters at the same time, that is actually quite normal in a kennel. As in any mainly female environment, all the females start to cycle at the same time! Which means if they are bred, the puppies will all come around the same time....There are friends here who have been trying very hard to get some help out there to get things under control... but that does not mean we are willing to destroy these dogs which is what the Hamilton County Humane Shelter wants.......after she turns over ALL the puppies with their papers so they can be sold. They don't care that that is illegal, they just want to be able to offer papered puppies and make money! This county by the way is one of the wealthiest in the country and they are doing their best to remove any and all who do not measure up to the standards they wish to show off. However, for anyone who wishes to own a GSD that is a true companion, a trusted friend for life, I cannot recommend a better breeder! No matter how cranky she may come off sounding, she certainly does know her stuff and these dogs are fantastic... They are not working lines for the most part, they are what the breed is supposed to be, gentle, aloof, and totally dedicated to their family.... as well as beautiful, loving and the best friend anyone could imagine....
One other thing, the owner is handicapped and was told that because of that, she should get rid of all the dogs, sell the property and move to an apartment where she can watch tv and do nothing else...a handicapped person should not be out taking care of dogs and training them!!
 
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I thought you would be interested in knowing what was actually going on.......not just short blurbs that are easily read. Sanchez's blurb did a great deal of harm and didn't show the truth. When contacted, he said he was not interested in "showing the truth" he only wanted to get people riled up. When we talked to him about coming to the kennel, talking to the owner (NOT showing up at 6 am and demanding but talking) he refused! He said he did not have any interest in doing a follow up! The person who also originally contacted Sanchez was at the hearing....and apologized after visiting the kennels and meeting the dogs and owner. Said she had no idea what it was really like. She was ashamed of the harm she had caused and she contacted Sanchez and he refused to do a thing... so don't believe everything you see on tv... and again, sorry if this is too long for you to read....
 

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Funny, you speak highly of GSD's as family companions, yet you also support them living their lives in outdoor kennels, exposed to the elements, fed and watered like livestock by a paid care taker.

Tell me, do any of those kennel dogs ever get to feel the warmth of a fireplace, the comfort of a soft bed, a gentle touch and quality time spent with their families?

My guess is probably not, at not least for the first several years of their lives, if at all.
 

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Someone sent me a link to this site and this article in particular..... and it does rather irritate me! This was a smear campaign from the get-go! The people who called it in had NO idea what was actually going on...they were looking at the kennels from about half a mile away or more through binoculars!

They never actually went to the kennels! There are no row upon row upon row of kennels. And there are never more than two dogs per kennel! A male and a female..Occasionally there may be some of the "older" puppies, ones that are 3 to 4 months old that are in outside kennels. By the way, it is inaccurate to call these "pens" as the smallest one there is 12 feet by 14 feet! Most are much larger.

Yes, the dogs do live outside and have food and water freely available as well as shelter. Yes, the kennelman's house was empty....after he destroyed the inside and ran off.....after he was told that he would not be allowed to sit around and neglect the dogs. He felt the dogs did not need to be watered more than every third day! He took over from a previous individual who was removed after he killed 4 of the dogs there, including the top stud! The owner of the kennel WAS a vet but is no longer practicing....The kennels were inspected several times by AKC reps and they said they were in good condition if not better than many!

Sanchez invaded the property at a very early hour and was rude and demanding, when he was not granted what he wanted immediately, he called up a helicopter which he then had flown very very low over the kennels panicking the dogs and causing injuries! One of things many people forget is this is a KENNEL! Not someone who has a dog or two in the house and is breeding their pets. This is not a backyard breeder but someone who has spent over 30 years developing the lines used and has put titles on over 37 dogs! Occasionally the dogs do get hurt, they will fence fight which is not a good thing. Anyone who has ever had a dog who fence fights knows how easy it is to get hurt.

When Sanchez did his little fly over, Indiana had had it's second warmest winter on record and it's wettest, this year is worse so yes, the dogs get muddy... German Shepherd Dogs are notorious for running their borders and all of them will border their area and no matter what you put down, they will damage the property. Concrete is very bad on their joints and feet so you use what is best. Actually, nothing is really good! I own three GSD's and my dogs are companions but they have trashed my yard and have brought half the mud in the known universe into the house!

Also, one thing that was NOT mentioned in this entire thing, while the animal control officer wrote the owner up for cruelty, neglect, etc. he later dropped all charges AND turned around and purchased a puppy from her! In fact, it was the SECOND GSD he had bought from her and he admitted the first was the best dog he had ever owned and that was why he was getting a second! Doesn't sound like he is really against the kennel now does it?

Yes, I was there when he was and was there when he made the purchase and also when he made the comments that he hoped he would not be charged too much as he was not going to go real hard on her and because I was there working with the dogs, and getting the puppy area cleaned up after the kennelman had run out, he said he would come by the next day and if it was okay, he would drop the charges which he did!!

What strikes me most is how many people complained about the situation but no one has offered to help get things under control. Unlike the vast majority of kennels, the owner here does NOT kill off the older dogs. I am not sure how many people are aware of that but in kennels, breeding females are killed once they hit 7 years old! She has offered most of these dogs to anyone who wants them free of charge as long as they can prove they are going to a good home.

Doesn't sound like someone who doesn't care? As for the 6 or 7 litters at the same time, that is actually quite normal in a kennel. As in any mainly female environment, all the females start to cycle at the same time! Which means if they are bred, the puppies will all come around the same time....There are friends here who have been trying very hard to get some help out there to get things under control... but that does not mean we are willing to destroy these dogs which is what the Hamilton County Humane Shelter wants.......after she turns over ALL the puppies with their papers so they can be sold.

They don't care that that is illegal, they just want to be able to offer papered puppies and make money! This county by the way is one of the wealthiest in the country and they are doing their best to remove any and all who do not measure up to the standards they wish to show off.

However, for anyone who wishes to own a GSD that is a true companion, a trusted friend for life, I cannot recommend a better breeder! No matter how cranky she may come off sounding, she certainly does know her stuff and these dogs are fantastic... They are not working lines for the most part, they are what the breed is supposed to be, gentle, aloof, and totally dedicated to their family.... as well as beautiful, loving and the best friend anyone could imagine....

One other thing, the owner is handicapped and was told that because of that, she should get rid of all the dogs, sell the property and move to an apartment where she can watch tv and do nothing else...a handicapped person should not be out taking care of dogs and training them!!
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Skylarks,

Right. So in other words it's a glorified puppy mill?!?!?!!?

You can be the first to defend a puppy miller all you want, but meanwhile the rest of us will be the ones defending the dogs that are currently being abused at Raebark kennels. YES, I did say ABUSED! IMO, it is abuse to force a dog to live it's entire life outside being used for breeding for your own personal purposes. Ooooo.... she titled 22 dogs. Out of how many hundreds that she has bred and owned? Not impressed. Not impressed, but appalled that anyone would defend such a heartless money making place. But more importantly sad for the dogs that are denied a life and forced to serve that woman.
 

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