Off Leash Reliable

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Leo is mostly off leash reliable, and I do let him off leash in several unfenced areas. He naturally stays fairly close and isn't one to wander.

The only reason I say "mostly" instead of completely is that he used to sometimes blow me off in order to say hi to another dog. We haven't had an incident like that in a while, and he just recently recalled from a full sprint when he started running towards a dog across a huge field. But, since he is still a bratty adolescent, I don't 100% trust him off leash, and do keep a careful watch out for other dogs.

That being said, I don't think he would ever outrightly run away from me. I think as he gets older, he will become bomb proof off leash. Right now he is good.
 

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Off leash reliable, to me, is being able to have a dog that checks in on you, doesn't wander off, and recalls off of anything.

Cynder is off leash reliable. She can even be left outdoors and she won't wander off. Or if she does, she comes back when we whistle.

Abrams is...getting there. With no/mild distractions, he sticks around, checks in, and recalls. In more distracting places, I don't trust him, although we've never really had any issues when he's on his long line. With this habit of charging and barking at people, I don't know if he'll ever be "trustworthy", but I don't worry about letting him run around outside in an unfenced area, or dragging a tether.
 

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Smiley is somewhat reliable. It entirely depends on the surroundings. I trust him at the ravine, beach, and unfenced dog park by my house. He will stay close by, and will only stray to chase a squirrel, or smell/mark his favourite trees, but will catch up/sprint back to me once he's done.

He's much more adventurous/unreliable in flat, open fields. He gets really silly crazy zoomies and turns his brain off. So I always have him drag a long line, especially because the open fields we go to are surrounded by high traffic roads.


The ability to be off leash is a top priority for me as I live in a city with a teensy backyard, and the fenced dog parks here leave A LOT to be desired, especially when there are tons of unfenced dog friendly parks/areas around.
It's a huge reason why I keep waffling on getting a whippet.
 

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Oh, and having an off leash reliable dog is very important to me. I wouldn't want to have a dog that bolts/wanders off/flips me the bird when loose.
 

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Bailey is/was off leash reliable to an extent. She's never been a dog to wander far and always checks in. She can even be recalled off deer/rabbits/other creatures (and no, she wasn't collared to do it). But sometimes she just gets a wild hair up her butt and runs without thinking. She does better on off leash group hikes in new places than she would off leash by herself.

Gabby is super duper reliable. Her only fault is that she ranges further than I'm accustomed to. So while she's not intentionally going anywhere, she gets further away than I'd like sometimes.
 

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Duke is definitely off leash reliable. He's pretty much never on leash. Whenever I watch a dog that has to be on leash all the time, it reminds me what a huge PITA it is for me. :lol-sign:

He's really good on a leash, despite hardly ever being on them. He responded really well to leash training. But, he always sticks close, I can call him off of rabbits and deer (but in the parks I just let him do it) The only thing I can't call him off is beavers. Which is more of a swimming issue than it is a dart into traffic issue. His walks are off leash, to and from the car, off leash. I do put him on a tie-out when I sit in the front yard, simply because people with their dogs on flexi's walk by and it makes sure he's not close enough for the dogs to bumrush him. Not that he goes anywhere without it, he rolls in the grass and lays in the same spot every time.

I haven't really trained recall. He grew up without leashes and I guess it's the lack of the novelty of "freedom" that keeps him from straying. Plus, he has little interest in people (unless they talk to him), and zero interest in other dogs. So that helps.
 

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Cobain and Rigby are reliable off-leash.
At my parent's house (where they have both lived), only half the yard is properly fenced. Neither of them have ever crossed the boundary without permission, let alone left the property.

Luckily they also aren't totally enthused with other dogs. If one approaches they are civil and may initiate play, but they don't get all crazy at the sight of a "potential friend."

Off-Leash reliability is huge for me. Some of the best exercise my dogs get is off-leash - and not always in fenced areas. Where I live now, many parks are dog friendly but not fenced in.

What I consider to be "reliable" is staying within my sight, acting civilly or ignoring other people/animals, and returning 90% of the time on first recall (100% for second call).

Oz fails my criteria on almost all fronts.
Ruby fails my criteria in terms of other people/animals - ie she sounds like a tiny bloodthirsty hellhound when she notices someone new.
 

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Juno I consider reliable. She likes to run and explore and I'm cool with that, but she doesn't go too far and comes when called.

Lucy is reliable and literally doesn't leave your side.

Happy might be reliable if she could hear lol obviously my deaf dog is never off leash.

Cajun is a work in progress.

It is VERY important to me to have a dog that can be off leash. That's a lot of what I like to do with my dogs, there's not a lot of fenced in places available and I think it sucks to use a long line.
 

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No.

In unfenced places that are populated with people and/or dogs, they are never ever off leash. Rowan goes selectively deaf when off leash and will not come when I call him. Riff will *if* there's nothing going on. If there are other dogs around, he will run to them and be obnoxious. No bueno. No off leash time.

When Nolu and I went to Cherry Creek, which is a fenced dog park, but is so big it feels unfenced, they were pretty good. Riff didn't wander too far and checked in frequently. Rowan wandered farther and checked in less often, but he still tried to keep tabs on where we were. If I could take them somewhere I was sure we wouldn't encounter anyone else, they *might* be ok... but I wouldn't do that without significantly more recall training. Rowan checks in, but I'm pretty sure if he saw a critter, he'd take off after it, and then even though he'd try to find his way back to me, who knows if he'd be able to? I have higher hopes for Riff, who I think just needs a reliable recall, and I just need to put the work into it.

I really, really want a dog that will be naturally inclined to stick close. That's a big consideration for future dogs, minus a few breeds I'd like that aren't known for it (a couple of sighthounds, mostly.)
 

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How important is it to you?
Super important, I really like being able to take her places off leash, and she needs the exercise.

What do you consider reliable?
I'm comfortable with letting Feist offleash because she checks in, looks back, recalls to me the vast majority of the time, will stay with me nicely if asked, and is good at 'let's go' (which means come this direction I'm walking in), 'okay' (that interaction is over), and responds well to 'nope', AKA don't go over to that person/dog/blob fish you're eyeing. She doesn't have an automatic ignore mode for people/dogs yet, but that's a WIP.

I'm fine with her coming and going to the car in the driveway offleash, I don't do it much because it's often just as easy to leash her, but it does come in handy and it's nice.

She's pretty much perfect, recalls off of chasing animals, the only thing I've ever had real trouble with is her fixating on another dog's movement and really just not hearing me tell her to move along. I've learned to read her, and just get her attention before she's totally deaf to me, and she's growing to do it less and less as she matures.

How often is your dog off leash?
A fair bit, usually a couple of times a week. :)
 

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I was curious how many people have dogs they consider reliable off leash?

Mammoth was the most reliable dog I've ever had, mostly because he was blind and thought the Earth revolved around me ;)

How important is it to you?

Recall and off leash manners are going to be inflicted on Pup (THREE WEEKS UNTIL HE IS BORN) as quickly as possible. I really, really would like to be comfortable letting him roam when we are hiking or out in the open on adventures. That said, if I can't get him there or I have doubts about his reliability, he will have to resign himself to a long line and I will have to get back into shape. :D

What do you consider reliable?

For me, an important part of off leash reliability is the emergency down. I want a dog I can recall and/or stick to the ground even if he's chasing half a dozen squirrels covered in peanut butter and squeaking at the tops of their lungs. A dog that recalls 80% of the time and emergency downs the other 20% is reliable enough that I would let him do his thing on our property and/or while hiking.

How often is your dog off leash?

Mammoth was off anytime that I was fairly sure we wouldn't encounter anyone else. He would down or recall at the drop of a hat, but he was intimidating (size/massive cataracts/loud bark) and I didn't want to spook anyone out for a stroll or walking their dog. He accompanied me off leash on chores around the property up until he went deaf and then I took to keeping a closer eye on him.
 

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I was curious how many people have dogs they consider reliable off leash?

Journey is super reliable off leash.the only time she doesn't recall easily is when she is chasing her Whippet friend because she gets a little over stimulated sometimes, but she isn't impossible even in that situation. Aside from that, she is wonderful. Explores but watches, doesn't stray far, comes back immediately and all I have to do is make a little clicky noise or something an not even use a recall word most of the time. She is the most reliable, intune off leash dog I have ever had and she is still young. I am sure with maturity she will be even better. Right now I still have to watch so she doesn't run off to play with other dogs, but she is actually pretty good about leaving strange dogs alone. I think with age she will be even less inclined to go say hello.

Dance is good off leash. She just follows along and while she does get left way behind sometimes because she likes sniffing things deeply, she always happily comes back once she's realize we are not waiting for her. However, she can be firmly independent and she will blatantly ignore my calls if she feels she is doing something better, so that can be annoying. But still, I never worry about her off leash. She is an especially trustworthy and reliable hiker.

Ripley is decent off leash. He used to be a lot better but now we don't really practice as often ever since he started randomly being an ass to other dogs. Mostly he gets leashed walks now and when he is off leash, it's when there are no or limited other dogs around. He is very good in those situations though and if I tell him to leave it, he does.

Keira is annoying off leash lately. She used to be better I think, but she truly couldn't care less about what I want so blatantly ignores me often to do whatever she wants. She doesn't go far though. She has her own 20 foot radius and stays within it. She just prefers to do her own thing. She will come back rig away if she knows I have cookies though lol. Oh well. We try. The only time her recall was amazing was when I would go out five days a week with a long line and really enforce it. As with anything in life if she is going to be good at it, she needs to practice constantly and never have the opportunity to reward herself for her own thing. She is too independent and opportunistic.

How important is it to you?

Very important. I used to think I could live with a non off leash dog, but I do so much with my dogs that requires them to be off leash that it has become a necessity. I dislike doing leashed activities. I just wish I had more legal off leash opportunities in the city.

What do you consider reliable?

For me, it's when I don't have to panic and wonder if my dog is going to come when called. When I let both Dance and Journ off leash, I don't worry at all. Both come back 99% of the time on the first call and keep an eye on where I am. The Dobermans are a little less trustworthy, but even they come back right away 90% of the time and there is never a time when they do not at all, they just take extra time sometimes. Reliability to me is a dog who checks in and pays attention and isn't inclined to stray off and ignore the fact that they are with their person. And is also capable of ignoring people and other dogs.

How often is your dog off leash?

Nearly every time that I am out with them. So, a lot. My two are off leash way more than they are on leash. The Dobermans not as much, but that's because I do do a bit more with Dance and Journey in general and there aren't quite as many places that I trust the dobes off leash in the same way as I trust my girls. It's always safety first and they have never been as naturally inclined for off leash activities as my two so while they are good and well trained, I have to be much ore aware of the environment and situation with Keira and Ripley.
 
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Oh I guess I didn't answer how important it is to me. I guess... I think it's super, super nice but not essential or a deal breaker for me.
 
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Emily - YES! 100% yes! The only exception is if there are strange dogs or possibly men around. She doesn't care for either but will ignore them if they ignore her.

Bayleigh & Pirate - Sometimes... If they are swimming or doing something like chasing the flirt pole, yes. If we were just out in the open in a big field, no. Honestly, I don't trust them, though. I don't want to risk it. Both of them have decent recalls but they don't listen all the time.

Penny - She has never been tested but I would trust her.

I wish that I could trust them all off leash but in the end, it's not really a big deal to keep them on a long line. Having them all on a long line at the same time can be a pain in the butt though.
 

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It's important to me if the dog has a lot of energy that needs to be burned off, like Siri does.
Yes, this. Juno and Cajun are energetic and want to RUN. That's not possible unless I set 'em loose somewhere.
Heck, I have a backyard but the dogs hardly use it for anything more than a toilet. They just can't get going the way they want to back there.

I used an e-collar to fine tune Juno's recall when she was younger, so yeah it's kind of a big deal to me lol. I surprised myself by going that route but we were both more miserable when she wasn't allowed off leash.
 

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Byron had an excellent recall. It was rare he ever had a leash on. I could trust that dog no matter what came by.

Blitz is reliable but not always right to run to you like Byron did. He'll look at you like to say "are you sure I have to come?"

Very important to me to have an off leash reliable dog. I am never going to have a dog fence. I like my dogs to come out and do outside chores with me and be by the pond etc. we are outside a lot and the dogs just follow us about generally.

I can not think of the last time blitz was on a leash. Maybe last summer at the park till we got in the back and let him off leash again lol
 
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Having them off leash isn't important to me in any way. Recall I like for emergency purposes, but haven't had any one get away in a million years.

Smalls is decent. Too people and dog friendly to really be great. Jack comes at the drop of a dime. If his name had two syllables he'd be returning before I got the second one out. Jonas has fantastic recall, only because he doesn't need it. He's crammed so far up my butt he'd never go within 2 feet of me off leash. Shambles, lol ya rite. He doesn't give a care about any thing except KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

Elsa is not friendly with most dogs and Magpie is not OK with kids. They will never, ever have the option of being off leash.
 

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Violet: haha!! no way. if she gets out the front door we can normally get her back quickly by telling her to get in the car (she loves the car/going places) so that's fortunate. i would never let her off leash in an unfenced area on purpose.

Chloe: um...I trust her not to bolt out the door and if she gets out she will come back when called, but if I let her loose in a field somewhere (especially with other animals/distractions) I wouldn't trust her to come back to me 100% of the time. so I would say no.

It's pretty important to me and I will make it a priority when training nextdog but it's not a dealbreaker.
 

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I should say that it's important to me, but after living with Buzz for so many years, I've learned ways around it. We continued to work on it, but I was never going to trust him without a line in an unfamiliar, unfenced place.
 

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Elsie's reliable, and her recall is pretty great.

Zobby can be relied on to bolt 100% of the time he gets the chance. I hate it, we're working on it, we'll never trust him.
 

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