Obsessing over cat

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Tucker's two problems and stealing stuff and obsessing over Willie. I hadn't brought up the Willie one because the first one is more dangerous, but it's getting really, really annoying and I don't see it getting better on its own.

We have two cats, Neko and Willie. Since getting Tucker they have learned how to play with him and were doing well at that. Chasing back and forth, gentle swatting, gentle mouthing, etc. However in the last couple of months Tucker had become over the top with Willie, not Neko (He'll start with Neko, but Neko is more intimidating and Tucker knows that when Neko says enough he should listen). Essentially Tucker wants to play with Willie, Willie doesn't want to play so Tucker just pokes him, puts his head in his mouth, jumps on him, etc. Willie usually huddles down until he can't take it, he'll swat (which is unfortunately what Tucker wants because he believes it's play) and try to get away onto something high but Tucker it VERY good at blocking him. Eventually Willie will get away, usually by walking and ignoring getting knocked over every few steps or having a nose shoved into the side of his head. Usually as the cat jumps onto something Tucker will jump up and try to nip at his legs, he is inhibiting his bite and there is absolutely no damage, but I am afraid he'll grab a leg and yank him down one day. Once the cat is on something Tucker might bark at him or if he's on furniture he'll bounce his front paws against the edge of the cushion and snap at the air towards the cat.

Now, Tucker will stop when you tell him to leave it. However that means a few minutes of peace. Pretty much any time Willie is on the ground, unless Tucker is occupied or really tired, he will be harassing Willie. It's ridiculous, it's not like it just happens when Tucker is in a super playful mood. I can't just continually ask him to leave it and give him a treat, that'll end up as a bad chain. If the cat holds out on ignoring him for a very long time Tucker will just start cleaning the inside of his ears, which might be better than the face poking, but is still not something Willie likes. On a rare occasion Tuck will try to hump him.

Any advice? I don't want him to stop playing with the cats altogether, but this obsessive, bully like behavior needs to stop or at least be greatly reduced.
 
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I have no advice, but you are describing Gambit (the artist formerly known as Token) perfectly. He insists on doing this to Cheshire, and it's driving me insane.
 

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I was about to post a question very similar to this. Suzie does it to chase the cat, because chasing is fun, but I'm starting to get worried because its getting a little rough

I hope someone replies to this, I was thinking about clicking when she is ignoring her, but I'm not sure exactly how to go about that.
 

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So I'm altering my question. When I go home for break (I'll be home for like 10 days) I've decided that I'll be leashing him on his 20-30 foot leash. This is for all four of his "issues" cat harassing, pooping in the house, barking at random noises, and stealing things. My new question is, how would you approach stopping the behavior?
I'm not sure if I should pull him away from the cat as soon as he tries to initiate play-thus ending all play with Willie, or should try and wait for a specific behavior that is unacceptable and remove him when he does that. I'm concerned about doing the first because it saddens me to end him playing with Willie at all (because sometimes Willie will play with him and they both have a grand old time). I'm concerned about the second because I would have to be very precise about what behavior is and is not tolerated in play in order for it to work.
I want to stop nipping (open mouthing is okay though), head nudging/body shoving, getting on top of the cat, and barking at the cat. Do you think having this many things I don't want is going to confuse the dog?
 

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When Chloe started pestering the cats, I was not above telling her off about it and then redirecting her. I nipped it in the bud the same way I nipped Rose's chase-cats-to-kill in the bud - zero tolerance level and get their mind on something else.

The dogs know that if the cats start something, all is fair game. Chloe and Apollo wrestle all the time, and if Apollo attacks Rose I'm not going to tell her off for snapping at him. But if the cat doesn't initiate the play and is being hounded, the dogs get told off. It keeps the peace, and Chloe and Apollo still enjoy each other.

Chloe is really good about self regulating herself around the cat, so I can't really help much with how to curb behavior once the play starts. She is very gentle and doesn't dish out more than he can take.

Pictures to illustrate. ^_^





But typically, the only time Chloe starts to dive bomb on Apollo without him starting it, is when she really wants to play. And redirecting her energy always helps.
 
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Obsessing over cats is a big problem with a lot of dogs. There are ways to solve it with positive reinforcement, though this (depending on the situation) can take longer and sometimes is never fully trustworthy. You can solve it in other ways as well. I would recommend a certain trainer, but a lot of people would disagree and I don't want to start any arguments on this forum.
 

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I have no intentions of using pain or fear to stop this, so I doubt I'd like the trainer either. I'm going to use removal by keeping him on a long line and ending the "bad" behavior when it begins. I'm just not sure at what point to remove him. I don't know whether or not to allow him to initiate play. Perhaps I'll only let him play with Neko. He's not currently a danger to the cat, so there is no need to use some drastic method to stop this.
 

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