Normal people + Malinois =

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  1. SaraB

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    I totally would've just asked if I could have him... How very, very sad.
     
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    Same here PW - I lived in an apartment/town house without a yard for 7+ years with Maggie and then Maggie and Z and we certainly found ways to exercise the dog(s), so I know it's possible, but this scenario doesn't sound like that's what's happening. :(

    The suggestion of ABMC rescue is a good one - they could at least give her some good info. Their website is malinoisrescue.org.
     
  3. PWCorgi

    PWCorgi Priscilla Winifred Corgi

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    Yeah, because I need a Mal right now. :yikes:

    I did tell her that if the head harness didn't work to come back in and we would try other things, or to call if she had any questions. If she does come back I'll let her know that Mal rescue has a lot of good info on the breed *hint hint*

    ETA: With my job I'm not allowed to just bring up Mal rescue as being a good idea for the dog. I could get in a lot of trouble for suggesting it if the customer was insulted at the suggestion.
     
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    Stan's breeder lives in the outskirts of the Twin Cities. I will email her and see if she has any ideas, or if she might even be willing to talk to her.
     
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    Yesterday I had two calls regarding 3 Malinois pups from one litter. These dogs were sired by a dog, whom as far as i can tell has no titles beyond dock dogs, in CO and whelped by a bitch in Henderson who seemingly has nothing to her name. The male is owned by a SMS trainer and DD competitor and as far as I can tell that's what this dog does. These pups were sold as "great active family pets" and these families are 4 months in and losing their grip very quickly. They sound like normal mals to me but I'll never advocate a mal to the average pet home. They're "constantly moving, barking, starting fights, and biting faces." One was sold to an elder man with health issues and the man went against the better judgment of a mal owning friend and purchased the dog. Now I'm being asked to help it stay in the home or potentially take her myself.

    The other two were sold to a family who for all purposes should have gotten a lab, they are moderately active and love dogs but these are "more aggressive than expected" and "always stealing things and arguing over them".


    This breed is totally screwed and it makes me want to cry.

    Eta to remove needless crap.

    Today sucks.
     
  6. Shai

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    Popularity's a b****
     
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    Yep.

    It really is. I was involved in a fb argument yesterday about advertising Mals on Kijiji. Pan's breeder and I were totally against it of course and were called "elitist" because of it, lol. I'm sorry but Malinois should not be advertised on Kijiji and any "breeder" who does obviously does not care about the breed. Buyers should be seeking out breeders, not the other way around.
     
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    Fran101 Resident fainting goat

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    I hate to say it, because it sounds like I'm saying Mal's aren't beautiful dogs, which of course they are, but I am kind of glad they don't come in flashy colors. I think it might be the only thing saving them from things being A LOT worse for the breed

    Either way,I hope the woman and dog find their sync.

    Lots of people have large active dogs in apartments, IMO it's just about how much you are willing to work. Dogs in apartments if anything get MORE than most in case of structured exercise. there is no "let the dog out" option lol
    but yea.. it does go badly for people who aren't willing to put the work in :/
     
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    Fran I totally understand. I think one of Flat-Coat's saving graces is that they are large (but not remarkably large) dogs and 95% of them are a "boring" monotonous black...and the other 5% are "plain" brown. I actually think it makes them look really classy, but they don't often catch the eye of the passers-by, most of whom assume they are some weird Lab mix.

    Unfortunately Mals seem to be getting a lot of press lately as the next great guard dog (the reason some people I know obtained their first Mal) and various other working functions.

    Hopefully it works out better for them than it did for GSDs.
     
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    :( if all my dogs got was a walk once in a while all of us would have to be committed. I hope she gets the help she needs with that dog.
     
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    Fran101 Resident fainting goat

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    Here Mals are becoming popular because they are popular enough that people know they are good guard dogs but are one of the few protective breeds that aren't popular enough for apartment building to list them as breeds you can't own

    Which really sucks for the dogs.. because in many of these situations. The people would've been much happier with another protective but lower energy breed.. but chose the mal simply because they could and ended up with a dog that is too much for them.
     
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    ...yet
     
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    Fran101 Resident fainting goat

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    Oh yea it's only a matter of time.
    As with the fila, the dogo argentino etc.. it only takes a little while for apartment buildings to catch on when the breeds start popping up and to ban them for future renters.

    We had a dogo argentino in my building who attacked someone because the guy ran into the elevator and I guess the dog felt he was a threat.

    ..which resulted in the dog interview before being even allowed to rent. Now most bully looking breeds aren't allowed at all except boxers and english bulldogs :/
     
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    Add another "yet" to not coming in fancy colors. Shudder...
     
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    Define fancy. The gene pool also contains dilution, liver, recessive black, tanpoint, and white markings. Plus two different coat lengths! There's a good amount of room to start making flashy ones.
     
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    I once saw them being advertised in the local paper as "Belton Malamars- German Breed" I wanted to cry.

    I live with Gambit the crazy coy, and the thought of owning one makes my skin shiver. Poor dog and poor owner.
     
  17. AdrianneIsabel

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    That was my point, or what I was trying to say, it's already there, they're just not bred for flash (yet).
     
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    How many years before we see longhaired, lilac tricolor Malinois?
     
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    Well now I have that to join the creepy clowns in my nightmares...
     
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    The reason Mals are gaining popularity with the public is because of the type of breeders that Adrianne mentioned. If breeders were being more careful about their dogs, you wouldn't be seeing things like what has been posted about here. I'm afraid that gaining popularity in sports and work has not done them any favors unfortunately. Instead, it has attracted a lot of breeders who don't really know much about the breed or care to, they just want to sell working/sport/protection/police bred puppies to whoever wants to buy them. There certainly are some great Mal breeders out there, so I don't mean to sound as though there is not. However, there are also a lot of..."for profit" breeders of them too. And when breeding gets to be more business oriented, sometimes there isn't the focus on ethics and what is or isn't good for the breed or buyers as there should be.
     

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