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Nicer than usual pet shop story
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Hehe, we can see who are the submissive ones here. I on the other hand am not, and agree totally with the person who has the husky w/pumpkin sig. You all can call us what you want, disqusting, hateful, bitter, grumpy, unfriendly and so on, but we stand up for what we believe in and that is that. If we seem mean or whatever you want to call it then so be it, too bad. You ask our opinions and we give them, that's final, just like you all give yours. Every thread that can be ethical or un-ethical is going to start a debate no matter what. Some of you are cut out for others thoughts. I hear what you all say, and take it in and state my opinion, but i do no name calling.
maybe they can take the next step and take pups from the shelter and give them this same treatment, i am so happy to hear they have a play room, and foster families for the night. SEeing young active pups rot in a cage makes my stomach ill and my head hurt. I found that to be very good news indeed. The profit would still be there for all the gear they could set the customer up with. I think that would be a dandy second step. CAn you put it in the suggestion box?
CAn you put it in the suggestion box?
maybe they can take the next step and take pups from the shelter and give them this same treatment, i am so happy to hear they have a play room, and foster families for the night. ... The profit would still be there for all the gear they could set the customer up with. I think that would be a dandy second step. CAn you put it in the suggestion box?
CAn you put it in the suggestion box?
One challenge for them would be managing criticism by the public, aka "Oh, that place, they just get their dogs from the shelter...don't know where they've come from, how old they are... I could go to the shelter myself if all I wanted was a reject." (Know what I mean?)
They could pick the best ones...but would still have to be honest with customers about where they came from. Also, some shelters may not let them have them...although if they built a good relationship, maybe...
Hm...some tricky bits...but an idea worthy of further consideration!
Del.
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The attempt at an insult by calling us "submissive" is unappreciated. To agree with another does not make you submissive, it merely means you agree. If you go back, I have done my part of stating my opinion. So, next time stick to the topic please, and avoid any of these attempts at insulting. (BTW, you could have done much better. It didn't insult me at all. It made me chuckle.)
As I said earlier, you can disagree with something and feel passionately about diagreeing, but if you let that passion get in way of educating and taking those baby steps, than you are just as bad as the rest of those ignorant people supporting BYBs. You have to be willing to take baby steps. That is the only way things in life can change. Go back into history and take a look. Baby steps. Lets encourage these baby steps. No, that doesn't mean you have to support this petstore, but you surely don't have to keep this horrible and illiberal attitude.
Fair is for 5 year olds. Life is NOT black and white. Those are two things I have learned growing up thanks to some wonderful older people. We live in a fallen world. Life will is not black and white. There are shades of grey, and this petstore, though is very very near the black, is still in that grey because though they truly aren't helping hte puppies as a whole, they do have heart enough to help the puppies that they get. Ever heard what they call "the best of intentions"? Perhaps this situations falls into that. They have good intentions, so give them a little break, at least with the verbal abuse. (And again, I will repeat,that doesn't mean you have to go give them your money.)
As I said earlier, you can disagree with something and feel passionately about diagreeing, but if you let that passion get in way of educating and taking those baby steps, than you are just as bad as the rest of those ignorant people supporting BYBs. You have to be willing to take baby steps. That is the only way things in life can change. Go back into history and take a look. Baby steps. Lets encourage these baby steps. No, that doesn't mean you have to support this petstore, but you surely don't have to keep this horrible and illiberal attitude.
Fair is for 5 year olds. Life is NOT black and white. Those are two things I have learned growing up thanks to some wonderful older people. We live in a fallen world. Life will is not black and white. There are shades of grey, and this petstore, though is very very near the black, is still in that grey because though they truly aren't helping hte puppies as a whole, they do have heart enough to help the puppies that they get. Ever heard what they call "the best of intentions"? Perhaps this situations falls into that. They have good intentions, so give them a little break, at least with the verbal abuse. (And again, I will repeat,that doesn't mean you have to go give them your money.)
POINT is shelters spay and neuter what they adopt OUT .
Pet stores do NOT and backyard breeders who sell MUTTS MONGRELS CROSS BREDS or SHITTY purebreds with no contract DONT require spay or neuter.
A dog is better off PTS kindly than in a abusive home , loose or giving birth to a new generation of RESCUES .
One intact dog sold from a pet store can in a few years breed 10,000 dogs .
Do the MATH.
Pet stores do NOT and backyard breeders who sell MUTTS MONGRELS CROSS BREDS or SHITTY purebreds with no contract DONT require spay or neuter.
A dog is better off PTS kindly than in a abusive home , loose or giving birth to a new generation of RESCUES .
One intact dog sold from a pet store can in a few years breed 10,000 dogs .
Do the MATH.
POINT is shelters spay and neuter what they adopt OUT .
Pet stores do NOT and backyard breeders who sell MUTTS MONGRELS CROSS BREDS or SHITTY purebreds with no contract DONT require spay or neuter.
A dog is better off PTS kindly than in a abusive home , loose or giving birth to a new generation of RESCUES .
One intact dog sold from a pet store can in a few years breed 10,000 dogs .
Do the MATH.
Pet stores do NOT and backyard breeders who sell MUTTS MONGRELS CROSS BREDS or SHITTY purebreds with no contract DONT require spay or neuter.
A dog is better off PTS kindly than in a abusive home , loose or giving birth to a new generation of RESCUES .
One intact dog sold from a pet store can in a few years breed 10,000 dogs .
Do the MATH.
So, how about a movement to force petshops to sell with a spay/neuter contract? They should also be forced to enforce the contract or take the puppy and spay or neuter it at the owners' expense. I know I sound like I am living in La La land, but there has to be a way to stop the wholesale slaughter of dogs due to no fault of their own, apart from being born. It makes me cringe to think of a young life being wasted like that...
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Hmm.
I have two mutts and I am d@mned proud that they own me. The love, compassion that those two furballs hold in their hearts can not be measured nor compared to any other. So you abhor all you want and I will love with all of my heart.
But anyways, back to the topic.
The problem I have with this here issue is that a pet store, a STORE, has someone going around finding the best mutts out there (or possibly purebreds, (coming from a BYB)) to sell.
We all acknowledge, this, yes?
Good. Next...
They post pictures of the proud mom and pop and put all this health information. What health information exactly? Because if it's a mutt, there is no health information to put, really. The so-called-breeder can not offer any health gurantees because the mixture of two dogs is just uncertain. And, well we've pretty much decided that a responsible breeder would not show case their titled, health certifed dogs at a pet store, so I won't waste my time on that one.
Follow me still?
Gooood.
Shelters are over-worked, under-staffed, over-budget and have less and less room due to the irresponisbility, carelessness of a great number of people in this world. ( I am not including the poor circumstances that would leave a ten year old dog homeless after its 80 year old owner has died, etc.).
So, really, what would be a great and honorable thing to do?
*raises hand* Pick me, I have the answer!!
This petstore with good intentions should walk their happy selves to the nearest shelter. Adopt out 10 of the dogs. Any dog, cute, old, young, tall, large, small... ANY DOG (that we assume of course has been temperment tested, etc) .
Then, they should showcase those dogs. They should tell these dogs stories, tell how they have been homeless for 2 months beacause their previous owner passed away. Tell how they were given up at 3 months because their owners were to lazy to acknoledge that getting a dog is a full-time committment. Tell how they were beaten and starved and neglected because their owner left them tied out on a chain when all they wanted was a good meal, a warm hand to pet them and a kind soul to love them.
Then, and only then, would I say that this is a nicer than usual pet store.
Because all this pet store is doing right now is putting money in the hands of BYB's. Supporting them. Providing means to continue to the deaths of so many dogs.
I have two mutts and I am d@mned proud that they own me. The love, compassion that those two furballs hold in their hearts can not be measured nor compared to any other. So you abhor all you want and I will love with all of my heart.
But anyways, back to the topic.
The problem I have with this here issue is that a pet store, a STORE, has someone going around finding the best mutts out there (or possibly purebreds, (coming from a BYB)) to sell.
We all acknowledge, this, yes?
Good. Next...
They post pictures of the proud mom and pop and put all this health information. What health information exactly? Because if it's a mutt, there is no health information to put, really. The so-called-breeder can not offer any health gurantees because the mixture of two dogs is just uncertain. And, well we've pretty much decided that a responsible breeder would not show case their titled, health certifed dogs at a pet store, so I won't waste my time on that one.
Follow me still?
Gooood.
Shelters are over-worked, under-staffed, over-budget and have less and less room due to the irresponisbility, carelessness of a great number of people in this world. ( I am not including the poor circumstances that would leave a ten year old dog homeless after its 80 year old owner has died, etc.).
So, really, what would be a great and honorable thing to do?
*raises hand* Pick me, I have the answer!!
This petstore with good intentions should walk their happy selves to the nearest shelter. Adopt out 10 of the dogs. Any dog, cute, old, young, tall, large, small... ANY DOG (that we assume of course has been temperment tested, etc) .
Then, they should showcase those dogs. They should tell these dogs stories, tell how they have been homeless for 2 months beacause their previous owner passed away. Tell how they were given up at 3 months because their owners were to lazy to acknoledge that getting a dog is a full-time committment. Tell how they were beaten and starved and neglected because their owner left them tied out on a chain when all they wanted was a good meal, a warm hand to pet them and a kind soul to love them.
Then, and only then, would I say that this is a nicer than usual pet store.
Because all this pet store is doing right now is putting money in the hands of BYB's. Supporting them. Providing means to continue to the deaths of so many dogs.