Neighbors, rats and one curious puppy

Goddard

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Hello everyone,

Wanted to tell you about a little situation in my neighborhood, how I dealt with it and whether others have additional suggestions.

There's a rat problem in our neighborhood (it's a nice neighborhood, just a bad combination of lots of fruit trees and lots of hiding spaces). Our next door neighbor and the house behind him have been using rat poison to deal with the problem. The consequence is that we've been finding dead squirrels, dead rats, and dead birds in our backyard and in the bushes separating the houses. Unfortunately, we usually only find them after the stink has gotten so bad in some hidden nook that we go digging around in the bushes and find the dead carcass.

We kind of just passively dealt with this until recently when we got our puppy. Almost immediately he managed to rummage around in some bushes and pull out a dead rodent and trot around happily with his find.:yikes: We had to grab him, pull it out of his mouth and then called the emergency vet who told us to make him vomit with hydrogen peroxide. Yuck.:(

So the next weekend we did a massive backyard clean up. Trimming back a ton of bushes, cleaning out a ton of leaves, put out new traps in high places he couldn't reach, etc. We feel a lot more comfortable that there's nothing currently dead lurking in the bushes. However, our neighbors are still using poison and if anything dies, there's no guarantee that we'll find it before Bodie does.

So today I took Bodie over to the neighbor that I think is the main culprit. I told them that he'd found a dead squirrel and that we would appreciate it if they could use traps instead of poison. They fell in love with his puppy face and said they weren't planning to put out any new poison in the near future but that traps don't really work. So I didn't really get a strong commitment from them not to use the poison going forward. So, my next step is to probably research some more on rat control methods and purchase whatever the best solution is and drop it off on their porch with another note thanking them for their help and to use these. ;)

What are your thoughts? Any other suggestions?

Thanks!!
Goddard
 

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I wish I could think of some helpful advice for you.

The only thing that comes to my mind is to tell you that no matter what your neighbors say assume they are using rat poison.

Even if they graciously thank you for the information and alternatives solutions were you to provide them swearing up and down to use them rather than the poison.

It is a situation I am sorry that you are in. :(

For his safety if you do not do so already please always make sure you go outside with Bodie to make sure he does not get into anything.
 
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Honesty, I would NOT put even traps just outside on fences and around the outside of your house because I don't think it would be fair to end up trapping squirrels who are not pests and killing them.

As for traps, poison is a horrible way for a rodent (even if they are a pest to you) to die. Traps are better, and less painful then poison.

As for neighbors..I can't help you with that one. Just make sure to check your yard daily, and supervise when your puppy is outside to make sure he doesn't get anything.
 
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The only thing that comes to my mind is to tell you that no matter what your neighbors say assume they are using rat poison.
My thoughts exactly. Even if you can convince them otherwise ... and your dropping off something else on the porch with a nice note is certainly non-confrontational ... you really do need to assume they are still using poison.

Better safe than sorry, it's not worth the risk to trust people won't use poison if rodents are a problem in your neighborhood. Rat poisons are extremely strong anti-coagulants ... an affected animal dies fairly quickly from internal bleeding.

I'm sorry you're going through this too, ... best to always go out with your dog in this situation.
 

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Just bring Strider over for a while, he'll clean out your rats. ;)

Keeping your yard clean and checking it periodically will do a lot to help. Maybe talk to your neighbors and ask them to give you a heads up if they ever do decided to use poison again, that way you know to step up dead rat patrols. You might also mention that small children could be getting into these poisoned animals that are dying in other people's yards too.

Have you tried the live traps at all?
 

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Yeah we're definitely with him at all times outside. It's just hard to tell when he's sniffing the bushes because he's doing his puppy sniff everything thing, or when he's actually found something nasty. It stinks because we were hoping to let him have free range of the backyard when he's older. One good note is that we currently rent our house so it won't be unreasonable to move in the next 6 months-1 year.

For what its worth our traps haven't been very successful. I have heard of live traps which are supposed to more humane. It may be an option, at least in our yard. Not sure it will catch anything though....

Let me tell you, I don't enjoy having to kill these animals. But they are getting massacred by the poison anyway (along with other unsuspecting creatures) which can't be that pleasant either.

-Goddard
 

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I have no advice, just sorry you have to face this situation. I would be terrified. I hope you can keep good communication with your neighbor and find a safe alternative to the rodent control.
 

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