Need Advice: Food Obsession & Excessive Barking

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Okay, the background here is that I rescued Isabelle (Catahoula puppy) the week before Thanksgiving. She had been dumped and was starved, wormy and covered in fleas and ticks.

Since the day I got her she has been frantic around food. All food, but especially her own food. She barks, whines, jumps. I never give her her food until she sits and waits. When I do put her bowl down she gobbles it up so fast that sometimes she chokes and once she threw up every bit she had just gotten down. I had hoped that this would stop once she realized that she wouldn't go hungry here but in the two months that I've had her it hasn't decreased at all. It's also difficult to try to train her using treats because she gets just as frantic when it comes to those. I have managed to teach her to sit and lay down and pretty much had to struggle with her to get her to focus enough to learn those (instead of being frantic about the treat) I've moved on to trying to use toys as a reward now but she's just not that interested. Is there a way to make toys more valuable to her?

The other thing is that she barks. A lot. A squirt from a water bottle stops her and it has decreased a little but not that much. She was barking the entire time I was dishing out the dogs' meals so I started putting her outside or in her crate during that. I know that tiring her out helps here and I do take her on walks and have her run around and play with the other dogs, but I would really like her to have an "off button" so to speak.

All input and advice on these issues will be greatly appreciated. She is a great pup, there's just these two things we need to nip in the bud. Oh and I should probably add that taking her to training classes isn't an option as there are none close to me.

Thanks in Advance,
Melissa
 

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Try spreading out the ration of her food a little more instead of giving it to her all at once in the bowl. Maybe give her half in a bowl first, so she doesn't feel too terribly hungry, then use the rest for training during the day. Catch her when her behavior is calm or how you'd like, then give her a handful or drop some on the floor or ground. Don't keep it in your hand or on your person. That's why she seems to be so overly focused on the food. You can actively teach her that focusing on the food won't get her the food, but focusing on your face ("watch me")...even if you have food in your hand WILL cause her to get the treat. (separate exercise when you're not trying to train something else...at first). Put it on the counter or a table or outside...on a picnic table near by where you can get to it quickly. Use a marker word or a clicker to bridge the time between telling her she did well and getting the reward. (read about clicker training) Since she is so very motivated by food, she should be easy to train. That exuberance can be channeled to more constructive behavior. She can learn to do things for you with gusto. I personally like that. Just be sure you don't inadvertantly reinforce the behavior you don't like.

When she barks, whines and jumps while you're getting the food, how about stopping getting the food and go sit down for about 30 seconds or just stop what you're doing and turn your back, stand perfectly still for 20-30 seconds, then try again. Repeat as necessary. Be very consistent. It will likely take many repititions for her to connect her own behavior (dogs aren't that aware of their own behavior) and your not getting the food....AND make the connection between not barking and getting the food. Don't spray things at her. This won't help and it will erode your relationship. It will just make her more nervous and associate these times with a more nerve wracking time and she'll learn that you're unpredictable and scary. Some dogs don't mind the water and some think it's a fun game so then you're just reinforcing the behavior you don't want.

If you do feed her in a bowl, you might put a couple of big rocks (too big to eat or choke on) or tennis balls in her bowl too, so she has to go around those. It might help slow her down marginally. It is good that you're having her sit and wait for a release word before she gets her food. Don't make her wait too long...just 3-5 seconds. No point in frustrating her more.

Once she learns things like sit, down or whatever and is doing them well, you can stop treating her every time. Reinforce sometimes...for the best sits or downs, for instance and keep her trying. Use praise when you don't treat. But for behaviors she is still learning, use what she loves best as a reinforcer.

Maybe she needs more exercise (physical and mental) than she is getting, even though you think she's getting enough. Some of these dogs need more than we think sometimes.

You can also teach her to quiet on command...not by punishing the barking, but by rewarding the quiet and assigning a cue to it. "Quiet" or I use, "enough."

Excessive barking: (From Culture Clash)

Increase exercise, physical and mental and more socializing.


THE SEQUENCE:

You cue "Bark!"

(get something to make the dog bark...door bell)

Dog barks

You praise: "Good!" after a few barks

You cue "quiet"

You show the dog the treat (to prompt quiet)

The dog's eventual distraction from barking by the treat

3 to 5 seconds of quiet during which you praise: "sooooo gooood."

You furnish treat after the 3-5 seconds of perfect quiet

Repeat with less and less visibility of the treat prompt (you still furnish after perfect quiet)

Practice with pretend visitors a few times.

Do it over and over until the dog knows the game. It may take a few sessions so hang in there. How do you judge whether he knows the game? He knows the game when he barks on the cue and doesn't need the door bell anymore and he quiets on the first quiet cue without having to be shown the treat. You still give him one from your pocket or from the cupboard if he quiets on cue, you just don't show it up front anymore. If he ever interrupts the quiet with a muffled bark, give him a no reward marker such as "Oh! Too bad" and start counting the quiet time from the beginning again. He has to know that barking during the quiet time was a mistake that cost him his treat.

Practice later in various locations and situations. Get good at turning on and off his bark and gradually increase the quiet duration. You have to acquire the ability to turn this on and off, back and forth in different contexts. Lots of practice with different friends and dogs in sight, but never moving ahead faster than he is able at a lower distraction situation. When you can turn his barking on and off anytime, any place, you have conditioned a "muscle." The more practice, the stronger the “muscle.†Then you can go to applying this to real life situations. You may have to go back to prompting with a treat again at first. Keep treats handy.

The hardest thing about bark training is that the first few tries it may seem to be futile, but once you get over the hump, it's amazing how fast it will go. Stay with it. (most people never get over the hump)

In addition, teach a good down/stay to go along with the quiet. Some dogs can't seem to bark while in that position.

With extreme, persistent barkers, if he likes a tennis ball, teach him to go fetch and carry his ball every time there is a trigger that causes him to bark. He can't bark very well with a tennis ball in his mouth.

Finally, you can teach the dog that barking after being told to quiet earns him an instant time out away from the action. Dogs bark and crowd up against the door because they want to be where the action is. Most dogs find the door goings on as sufficiently fascinating and it really bothers them to be banished to a back room. Timing, as usual is very important. Once you've issued the "quiet" cue, the very next bark needs to meet you instant "ooh! Too bad for you" and quick escorting to the penalty box. A minute or two is plenty in the penalty box. Don't release him until he has been quiet for at least several seconds. Timeouts for watchdog barking can elicit a watchdog request barking..."let me out of here!" Don't panic. Wait for your five to ten seconds of quiet.

If your dog has a very low threshold and goes off at the slightest noises and other changes in the environment, it helps to get him better habituated. Take him out more and invite the world in to visit more often. Expose him to a wider range of sights and sounds.




Hang in there. You did a good thing to save her. She'll probably always have that habit of gorging on food and being worried that she won't have any. It sounds like she suffered a lot in her past. I'm sure you can temper it down a little, but she is who she is and you'll just have to work with it the best you can. Training can do a lot, but it can't un-do their whole personality. Maybe too, she just needs more time to settle in with you and you both will, over time come to understand each other better and better and bond better. I recommend using positive reinforcement type methods rather than spraying things or using too much punishment, as those things can cause some detrimental side effects and sabotage your relationship.

There are good books, like the one that bark training comes from among others. I think there's a thread somewhere here with book ideas. If not, just ask. Good luck. I hope things get better.

(some links that I think would help a lot.)
:)

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When I do put her bowl down she gobbles it up so fast that sometimes she chokes and once she threw up every bit she had just gotten down.
I'd highly suggest feeding her meals in food dispensing toys: a toy or object that holds food and forces her to figure out how to get the food out. You can buy lots of different food dispensers at pet stores, or you can use empty plastic bottles or even empty cardboard boxes; just put the food inside and the dog will have to figure out how to knock the bottle around, or tear into the box, to get the food out. Most food dispensing toys only release a few kibbles at a time, so it will definately slow down her eating while also giving her a mental outlet.

It's also difficult to try to train her using treats because she gets just as frantic when it comes to those. I have managed to teach her to sit and lay down and pretty much had to struggle with her to get her to focus enough to learn those (instead of being frantic about the treat)
I agree with Doberluv's advice. I'd also add that when using treats to train a puppy this treat motivated, the dog should never be able to see the treat until after he's done the behavior you're looking for. Clicker training will also be extremely helpful (read up about clicker training if you're not already doing it). For example, when you want to teach your puppy to sit, put the treats up on a shelf or table or counter or something, out of sight to the puppy, and do not hold treats in your hand, just hold your clicker. Wait until your puppy sits, and when she does, click the clicker and then go get a treat and give it to her. The most important thing here is that you don't make a move to get the treat until AFTER you click. This way, she'll learn that focusing on you and figuring out what you want is what will get her treats, not obsessing over the treats.

The other thing is that she barks. A lot. A squirt from a water bottle stops her and it has decreased a little but not that much. She was barking the entire time I was dishing out the dogs' meals so I started putting her outside or in her crate during that. I know that tiring her out helps here and I do take her on walks and have her run around and play with the other dogs, but I would really like her to have an "off button" so to speak.
Puppies only use their "off button" when they're sleeping. :)

The important thing with barking is to make sure that you NEVER give her ANY kind of attention for barking - good attention or bad attention. I'd even make a point to remove yourself from her every time she barks. For example, in the crate, when she starts barking you can calmly turn and leave the room, or close a door so that she can't see you. If she can hear you dishing out food, do not get her hers until she's quiet. So the sequence is like this: You go to scoop food, she barks, you close the door so that she can't see you; then you continue scooping the other dogs' food but do not scoop hers; when she's quiet, open the door so that she can see you again and then go scoop her food; if she barks again, just repeat. This will teach her to be patient and quiet even though she's extremely excited that you're getting her food.
 

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