R+ training takes a certain amount of intelligence, patience and understanding of the science behind learning theory in order to work. People who insist on using "correction" based methods are either lacking the intelligence, enjoy bullying their dogs, or are lazy.
When a dogs highly HA or DA. When it has killed another animal or seriously bit a person. It's gone beyond clicking and treating.
Truth. Corrective "dominance" based methods have been scientifically proven to INCREASE bites in cases of HA or DA. Correction based methods only stop the communication the dog is using to display the aggression, and ignoring the underlying issue. Punching a dog in the throat might stop him from growling, but does nothing to change the underlying source OF the growling.
rubygirl, whenever I encounter someone like who, who is so dead set on believing the "dominance" nonsense, it makes me wonder how you are willing to remain so willfully ignorant of the science being the best way of learning. Yes dogs are dogs and humans are humans. But we all learn the same. Science proves it.
But even your argument-- dogs are not humans-- is exactly that. And even more so, humans are not dogs. So the idea that a human can replicate an "alpha dog", simulate a "mother dogs correction" should seem just as absurd to you, no?
Even the man who coined the terms "alpha" and "dominance" has gone I public record discussing how the terms are widely misused, mostly because his research was horribly flawed.
But by all means, hang on to your ideas that physical corrections are the best way to train. The rest of us granola-eating tree-huggers will be watching our dogs TRULY be rehabilitated instead of just abused in to a state of learned helplessness.
