Discussion in 'The Breeding Ground' started by rottiegirl, Dec 7, 2005.
This is Missy, she is three years old and my mom wants to breed her.
she is getting quite gray in the face.
is she registered and everything??
why does she want to breed her?
because there are about 5 people in my family that want a pug puppy. my mom isnt going to sell any of the pups. missy is registered with the ckc. i dont know if thats a bad idea or not, because i know nothing about breeding.
Why don't you rescue instead of bringing more dogs into the world?
I'm sure you'll have to get her tested for genetic problems... if you do end up breeding her. Ask showpug.
i know that, but try telling that to my family. they want puppies from missy. i would personaly rescue but its not up to me. missy is my moms dog.
yeah, And i have quite a few questions!
She is only three and has that much grey? Wow...
yeah, kind of weird huh! i am pretty sure she is 3.5 years old. her mask used to be jet black when she was younger.
Actually, graying like that isn't that unusual for a pug. Ours is 3 1/2 and is like that.
well thats definately good to know. i thought something might be wrong with her.
that is so adorable!!
I would say that that much gray is defiantly abnormal for her age, but some dogs do gray early. Is your Mom 100% sure of her dogs age? If not, I would really refrain from breeding her. Most pugs really need to have their first litter as close to 2 years old as possible, they are quite different from other breeds. Plus, make sure that you Mom knows that there is a VERY likely chance that her pug will need a c-section, it is VERY common practice for the breed. A lot of them make really cruddy mothers as well and puppies need to be bottle fed every 2 hours around the clock.
In general, pugs need their hips looked at as the breed as a whole is very displastic, slipped hocks run ramped, eye certification and cardiac certification are also needed.
I should also say that your Mom's pug is a very sweet looking lady and I am sure that they love her. I will mention though, that she is far from standard for the breed. Breeding her will only add to the long list of pugs that are in rescue right now. I don't mean to sound rude, but pugs are so overbred now that it is silly. It's uncommon to find one in public that actually fits the standard.
wow, i had no idea. How is she so different from the standard? too many wrinkles? muzzle too short? she weights 19 pounds, and she is on a diet. how much should pugs weigh? i know that breeding will add to the pugs that are in rescues, but its not my dog. its my mothers dog.
I am pretty sure that she is 3.5 years old, but i will tell my mom to check her papers. my mom knows about pugs needing c-sections. i warned her about c-sections already. about how much would a c-section cost?
This is the male that my mom might breed missy to. i have no idea how close he is to the standard.
This is a puppy produced by the male dog.
Okay, I will answer each of your posts in sections, so bare with me! She is not close to the standard for a number of reasons. Please keep in mind that even if she is far from standard, I still recognize that she is a loved and cherished family member. I am not saying what I am saying to put her down, or pick her apart. I just feel that only dogs that adhere strictly to standard should be bred- to improve the breed. So, here are my reasons:
* A female pug should way 14-16 lbs. At a healthy weight.
* Her head is rather long and apple shaped instead of circular and round (globular)
*Her ears are too long, the the tips should not pass the corners of her eyes.
*She is too long in body. Pugs should have a very short back and be a square. When they are evenly stacked and not overstretched, you should be able to draw a square underneath them.
* Her topline is roached and not level.
*She has a loose and incomplete tail curl. The double curl is best. She has a single loose curl, curling over her back instead of laying on her back towards her hip.
*She appears to also be lacking in neck length and arch.
* I can't tell from the pics if she has appropriate trace down her back and if her nails are black etc.
Either way, these are some of my reasons.