This is not the type of lady obviously should be owning pit bulls. I could not imagine a parent keeping two dogs that mauled her son to death.
Mom fights for sons return
Mom fights for sons return
Mother Argues For Son's Return After Dog Attack
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The way I read the article it was another family who lost a son due to their own dogs not the mother who is fighting to get her son back. I'd be interested in more background before automatically assuming she shouldn't get her son back. Have there been problems with her dogs being aggressive? Exactly what were the social workers concerns that brought about her son being taken away from her? Was it strictly fear because they saw she had pitbulls or was there a legitimate reason?
"The case comes little more than a week after a San Francisco jury deadlocked on child endangerment charges against another San Francisco mother -- Maureen Faibish.
Her 12-year-old son was mauled to death by the family's two pit bulls last year. "
I'm reading it that the 12 yo was the son of Maureen Faibish not Valerie Louie who is fighting for the return of her son.
Her 12-year-old son was mauled to death by the family's two pit bulls last year. "
I'm reading it that the 12 yo was the son of Maureen Faibish not Valerie Louie who is fighting for the return of her son.
I believe she is the women who locked her 12 year old son in the basement to keep him away from her male and female pitbull who was in heat and had the male enraged getting to her 
The son broke out of the basement and got mauled by the dogs. Definately a person who shouldn't own dogs. Sick, Sick, Sick . I believe it was mostly all the male who killed him. You see the power of testosterone and having a bitch in season around
The son broke out of the basement and got mauled by the dogs. Definately a person who shouldn't own dogs. Sick, Sick, Sick . I believe it was mostly all the male who killed him. You see the power of testosterone and having a bitch in season around
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Valeri Louie, as I can find, her dogs did nothing to her son. Social Services siad they feared for the child because they owned pit's. No details about the dogs, just the breed.
Maureen Fabish is the wonderful mother who locked her child in the basement while she went to run errands. From all accounts her dogs had a good history, with the vet and such (not like that means a lot), but her parenting skills are sorely lacking and she's lost one child because of it.
They're two
seperate cases.
Maureen Fabish is the wonderful mother who locked her child in the basement while she went to run errands. From all accounts her dogs had a good history, with the vet and such (not like that means a lot), but her parenting skills are sorely lacking and she's lost one child because of it.
They're two
seperate cases.
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Here's a link to the Mother's version of the events
http://www.crossfit.com/cf-journal/CPS-nightmare.pdf
http://www.crossfit.com/cf-journal/CPS-nightmare.pdf
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/08/MNGGTKD03E1.DTL
Here's the original article from the SF Chronicle. The dogs were NOT human aggressive, nothing ever suggested potential human aggression, and the poor kid was sexually abused because of CPS and ACC's over-reaction. It's pretty appalling - and I bet it wouldn't have happened at all if the original incident (the dogs biting another dog) had happened before the Nicholas Faibish death.
Here's the original article from the SF Chronicle. The dogs were NOT human aggressive, nothing ever suggested potential human aggression, and the poor kid was sexually abused because of CPS and ACC's over-reaction. It's pretty appalling - and I bet it wouldn't have happened at all if the original incident (the dogs biting another dog) had happened before the Nicholas Faibish death.
the day her young son accidentally left their front door ajar last year. Two of her dogs -- pit bull mixes -- ran out, and one bit a small dog on the ear. San Francisco's animal control department deemed the animals "vicious and dangerous,'' and eventually they were banned from Louie's Richmond District home....Over the span of the next two months, Cricket was assessed by two animal behaviorists. Both times, the experts voiced serious alarm for Andrew's safety because the boy repeatedly provoked the dog, poking it with toys and pulling his tail. One expert recommended that Louie never again leave the two alone."My problem, candidly, was that I did not believe the dog was a threat to her child under normal circumstances,'' Herndon said in an interview. "If I had just taken the dog, everyone would have gone on their merry way. But it wasn't something I could do because it wasn't the dog that was the problem, it was the way the child interacted with the dog, and the mother didn't do anything about it.'' Animal Care and Control sent a referral to Child Protective Services on Aug. 12, 2005. Then Louie made the first of two serious mistakes: She brought Cricket back into her home in early September because she feared for his health. A week later, city workers removed Cricket while a sobbing Andrew watched. Angered and convinced that Louie could not be trusted, social workers sought to make Andrew a dependent of the court. According to case records, "There is a need for court intervention. ... The mother has minimized the safety issues that are involved in this case.'' ...In mid-December, Louie...brought Frances home...she explained. "I didn't think there was anything wrong with bringing her back with us. The city had not mentioned anything about Frances being an issue.''...On June 15, Louie filed a claim against the city, demanding damages for inflicting stress, anxiety and humiliation.
You know, while I think the actions taken were somewhat out of proportion to the danger posed by the dogs to the child, I also think the mother is full of ****. She's a nurse, they know how the system works. She let her two pit bulls get loose (a 6-year-old should not be able to open a door to the street if you've got dogs running around the house, that's just wrong) and they attacked another dog. So she paid for her carelessness by having the beady eye of the social welfare system turned on her household. That's the risk you take when you're careless; you're risking that your actions or inactions will impact someone else whose priority isn't enabling your casual behavior, and that they will call the cops on you. The animal cops saw stuff they didn't like about her parenting skills - and I'm with them on this one, since it's so common for a) children to be bitten badly while harassing a dog, and b) people to be hurt badly by multiple dogs who 'pack up' and there were two dogs in the household - and notified the child protective services people.
It's horrific that the kid was taken away for so long, and possibly abused, but a big part of the blame rests with the mother. Bringing those dogs in and out of the house was like giving the system the finger, and she knew better.
You know, while I think the actions taken were somewhat out of proportion to the danger posed by the dogs to the child, I also think the mother is full of ****. She's a nurse, they know how the system works. She let her two pit bulls get loose (a 6-year-old should not be able to open a door to the street if you've got dogs running around the house, that's just wrong) and they attacked another dog. So she paid for her carelessness by having the beady eye of the social welfare system turned on her household. That's the risk you take when you're careless; you're risking that your actions or inactions will impact someone else whose priority isn't enabling your casual behavior, and that they will call the cops on you. The animal cops saw stuff they didn't like about her parenting skills - and I'm with them on this one, since it's so common for a) children to be bitten badly while harassing a dog, and b) people to be hurt badly by multiple dogs who 'pack up' and there were two dogs in the household - and notified the child protective services people.
It's horrific that the kid was taken away for so long, and possibly abused, but a big part of the blame rests with the mother. Bringing those dogs in and out of the house was like giving the system the finger, and she knew better.