Min Pin vs Chihuahua

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If you want a dog to go jogging with, although small dogs are more than capable of going on long walks/runs and enjoying it, you might want to go for something a little larger. JMO of course. I'm not sure a tiny dog is the way to go as far as a jogging partner is concerned.

However....I'll put my vote in for Chihuahua's because I love 'em. :D They're amazing dogs with strong personalities that need a good, responsible owner to bring out the best in them. I hate seeing "mean" Chihuahua's, they're almost always the owners fault and give Chi's a bad name.

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I'd say a Min Pin because Chis can be extremely snappy. My neighbor has one and she's really snappy for no reason. I vote for a Min Pin like I alredy said.

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Fuzz Puppy. I'm sorry to contradict you, but that just isn't on account of the breed. Your neighbor's dog is not snappy for no reason, I assure you. She doesn't know where she stands in the pack and doesn't know that humans are her leaders. This is the most likely scenario. Many people do not handle dogs properly. They don't treat them like dogs. I have Chihuahuas and I know of other Chihuahuas who are perfectly normal, sweet dogs. Mine wouldn't snap at anyone for the world. They love people, are very friendly and outgoing, never object to anything I tell or ask them to do. They're treated like dogs and know their place in the family. If you mishandle a dog, any dog, any breed, behavior problems will surface.

That said, as far as exercise, I take my dogs; my Doberman and two Chihuahuas on hikes in the mountain trails in the wilderness area where I live. These hikes range from about 2 miles to 7 miles. The Chihuahuas keep right up with the Doberman and get no more tired than he does. They enjoy it and are perfectly capable of negotiating downed trees, branches, cliff sides....you name it. In fact, they're even better at getting through some brush than the big dog. They can fit inbetween little twigs and such. So as far as jogging, that shouldn't be a problem as long as the can vary their speed and stop once in a while to catch their breath. You know by watching the dogs how they're doing. Hiking may be easier because they get to change pace, go from running to trotting to walking to stopping and sniffing a bush or something. That is more natural than a steady trot or run. But a little jogging wouldn't hurt them at all as long as you watch.
 

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Min PIns are hyper, and dirty as far as ever becoming house broken. They will poop and stomp thru it, etc. Chihuahuas are much calmer and sweeter for the most part. Get a Chiwaawaa.

That's a pretty uninformed generalization.

Min Pins are no different in regards to house training than any other toy breed and whether a dog is housetrained quickly or not depends on the person doing the training more than on anything else.

I also saw comments in regard to either breed being snappy, hyper etc. - and once again, these are issues that depends on how you treat the dog as a puppy, how well you socialize it and whether it gets proper exercise.

I know a lady who has the sweetest little Chi and she shows him in obedience and agility. This dog is treated like a dog and not like a china doll, and as a result is a very sociable, friendly little guy.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, I also know a person with a Chihuahua who will absolutely not let him set a foot on the ground anywhere outside her apartment and carries him around in a purse wherever she goes. The poor thing isn't allowed to have contact with any other dogs and the only exercise he gets is running around indoors. This dog is ill tempered, untrustworthy, snappy and yaps all day long at anything and everything.

Same breed, big difference in how the dog was raised. And the first one I mentioned came from a responsible breeder and is a show quality dog, while the second one is an ugly, overbred little thing that was purchased from a trendy pet shop at an upscale mall, so most likely came from a puppy mill either in the midwest or from Mexico.
 
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Doberluv, I know it depends on the dog, it just really scared me and I know Chiwawas aren't known for it, but it is a possibility that the dog will be snappy. And it's scarty when aa dog is aggressive. You're right, it isn't fo no reson, but from my experience, chiwawas are really aggressive. Neighbors probably don't mind it. It's grreat that chiwawas are a great breed for you.
 

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I agree with Mordy...
Being the owner of a Chihuahua, and having owned a Min Pin a few years back, I would have to say that I would probably go with a Min Pin over a Chihuahua.

On the contrary, Min Pins are NOT dirty from my experience; my dog was very easy to housetrain, very intelligent, and not hyper but obedient and passive..the dog was wonderful and I never had any problems...my Chi, on the other hand, still has accidents in the house from time to time, is very difficult to train, extremely stubborn, and aggressive...

Oh, and by the way, if you ARE thinking of "purchasing" a puppy, please be advised that you should steer CLEAR of pet stores of any type...try to look for a good breeder or better yet, try to find a breed specific rescue group that specializes in rescuing and rehoming the dog you are interested in.

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I take my girl Chihuahua into a local pub/restaraunt (after dinner hour) lots of times and everyone loves her. I set her down right inside the door and she, more of a blurr.... makes a bee-line as fast as she can to the nearest person, upon whose lap she is promptly placed. Often she is offered the whip cream off the coffee mug. Then she mingles and socializes with everyone. Her tail wags furiously. That's the only ferocious part of Chulita. Ok...so she gets a little spoiling, but she has NO behavior problems at all. My little boy Chi hardly ever gets to go because he goes behind the bar looking for pizza crumbs where the fireplace thing is where they make the pizzas. And he just looks for food. And we can't have that. He's always watching his weight.
 
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That's a pretty uninformed generalization.

Min Pins are no different in regards to house training than any other toy breed and whether a dog is housetrained quickly or not depends on the person doing the training more than on anything else.

I also saw comments in regard to either breed being snappy, hyper etc. - and once again, these are issues that depends on how you treat the dog as a puppy, how well you socialize it and whether it gets proper exercise.

I know a lady who has the sweetest little Chi and she shows him in obedience and agility. This dog is treated like a dog and not like a china doll, and as a result is a very sociable, friendly little guy.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, I also know a person with a Chihuahua who will absolutely not let him set a foot on the ground anywhere outside her apartment and carries him around in a purse wherever she goes. The poor thing isn't allowed to have contact with any other dogs and the only exercise he gets is running around indoors. This dog is ill tempered, untrustworthy, snappy and yaps all day long at anything and everything.

Same breed, big difference in how the dog was raised. And the first one I mentioned came from a responsible breeder and is a show quality dog, while the second one is an ugly, overbred little thing that was purchased from a trendy pet shop at an upscale mall, so most likely came from a puppy mill either in the midwest or from Mexico.
Not at all uninformed, and not a generalization. And just how many hundreds of Min Pins have you known? They are nasty little dogs as far as their hygiene. Especially as far as the males. And it has nothing to do with the effort put forth by the breeders/owners. Some breeds are just wired that way. True, there are exceptions to everything, but my "generalization was based upon knowing many breeders with hundreds of dog (between them, that is, rofl).

Best way......get a backyard bred Min Pin and see for yourself!!!
 

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Gwinnywillow, Min Pins are a very popular breed in Germany, and actually I know quite a few. I also know a number of people in the US and Canada who own one or more and they are house pets as clean as any other dog.

Calling Min Pins as a whole "dirty" is just as ignorant as calling all Pit Bulls "bloodthirsty killers".

If a dog has problems with hygiene, the environment it grew up in is to blame and so is the effort (or rather lack thereof) of the people in charge of their care. I have yet to hear of a "can't be housetrained" gene established in any breed.
 

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Not at all uninformed, and not a generalization. And just how many hundreds of Min Pins have you known? They are nasty little dogs as far as their hygiene. Especially as far as the males. And it has nothing to do with the effort put forth by the breeders/owners. Some breeds are just wired that way. True, there are exceptions to everything, but my "generalization was based upon knowing many breeders with hundreds of dog (between them, that is, rofl).

Best way......get a backyard bred Min Pin and see for yourself!!!
Have you ever owned one? In that case, maybe you just didn't have a clue?
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I used to have a min pin, and I have a chihuahua, and I can definately say I strongly disagree with your uninformed and over generalized statement...
 
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Hi, I'm considering the purchase of a puppy, and I've narrowed it down to two breeds, Min pins, and chihuahua's. I've researched both breeds extensively, but I was wondering if anyone had any advice on which dog would make a better companion in an apartment setting, most responsive to training, more intelligent and so on. I've also had experience with larger dogs, a Dalmation and a Rottie, and was wondering if anyone could give me any insight on any drastic differences between large and small dogs. Thankies.
From limited observation of my neighbor's dog, Min Pins have energy to spare and are quite, quite alert and active and more like a 'real' dog than the Chihuahua, which (again, limited to observation of dogs I've met) tend to be more lapdoggish. I think it's worth considering that the way some smaller breeds are built makes it harder for them to be run alongside a jogger (which I think you mentioned later on in this thread as something you'd like to do). My sister's Yorkie has enough energy to run with me while I jog, but the sheer shortness of his legs make him move like a root beer barrel on sticks, and it's not very comfortable for either of us.
 

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Chihuahuas are terrific watch dogs...bionic hearing (lol) and very reactive to strange noises and things. They'll really let you know if something's out there. They are wonderful lap dogs. What I love too, about them is that they can be playful and ready for a game, silly antics one minute and when I want to stop playing and sit down, they immediately adjust and are so happy to curl up on my lap or next to me and go to sleep. Instant cooperation there.

I think both breeds are lovely. Like I said, my bf has a sweet, fairly quiet Min Pin and depending on how you handle the dogs, they'll be great companions. I don't know about jogging, but my little ones are energetic hikers and have great strength, speed and endurance. You should see how they can move out on those trails. But they're use to it. You can't take a dog who does nothing much and expect it to be an instant athlete.

What's with this dirty dog comment? That's entirely up to the owner to provide a clean enviornment for a dog. That's nonsense IMO. My Lab would roll in the grossest stuff; horse poop, bear poop, cougar poop, dead birds...you name it. Dogs are all gross at times. Let's face it.
 

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ok im new here but i HAVE to comment on this thread, i have 2 chihuahuas and have owned minpins in the past.

first off, that comment "get a backyard bred minpin and see for yourself"
if your looking to buy a puppy NEVER get a backyard bred puppy, backyard breeders are usually in it for the money are well known for breeding subpar and non standard dogs and the parents personalities are often questionable...with ANY breed your looking into, REASERCH, always buy from a respectable breeder who reaserches their lines well, preferably one who is involved in showing or agility.
ANY dog can have bad potty habits if its not well trained! not just backyard bred dogs...

that being said.

you state your looking for a jogging companion, for that id usually suggest going a little larger than a toy breed, while these dogs have plenty of energy to spare, jogging isnt realy a known pastime of theirs (theyd much rather have you pick them up when their litle legs get tired lol.) good jogging partners in the relativly small end of medium sized dogs would be spaniels...being a hunting breed they have quite a good amount of energy for pacing themselves in jogging.
however if you have your heart set on a toy breed, jogging wise id probably go with a min pin. however if you like the look of minpins another breed to look at would be the manchester terrier, both these breeds have a little more energy than the chihuhua due to their origional hunting purposes (ratters) whereas chis have been bred to be companions and lapdogs. i have never met a minpin or manchester who was DIRTY, every minpin ive ever met or heard about has been easier to housebreak than any chi ive met (and my grandfather and i breed chis) minpins tend to have more prey drive than chis, and are usually more than happy to accompany you on a longer walk or jog, whereas a chi will be more likely to start pawing at your leg to pick them up half way through the run. however due to this natural prey drive animals like pet mice, rats, hamsters ect should be kept away from them...

chis are happy with the little excersize they can get in the house, they do love a walk or a romp outside and some make good agility dogs, but most prefer to just run around the house and snuggle on your lap

the housebreaking thing, as i said, ive always found minpins easier to housebreak than the chis.
attitude wise, both are big dogs in little bodies and have a terrier like tenacity, both can be highstrung and agressive if not properly trained and socialized, and from a good breeder, however chis tend to be more stubborn than pins, chis also tend to bond extreemly to one person and prefer the company of their own breed, whereas pins tend to be more people social and so long as socilized and spayed/neutered dog social than most chis.
chis are more prone to seperation anxiety than pins.
both are redily trained and very good little dogs, but i think for a more active lifestyle the pin would fit better! ust make sure to get from a responsible breeder and attend some obedience classes (this goes for ANY breed)

as with ANY toy breed, avoid ANY breeder who claims "toy" "teacup" "Mini" "micro" and "rare" in their advertising, as these are all just jazz words used by mills petstores and byb's to ask a higher price for their puppies...that "teacup" puppy is just the runt of the litter and usually has health problems... that "rare colour" is just a colour that shouldnt be part of the breed (NOTE: chihuahuas come in every colour of the rainbow...NO colour is rare in chihuahuas no matter what they say)

minpins also tend to shed less than shorthaired chihuhuas and a little more than longhaired chihuahuas.

hope you find your jogging partner!
 

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I love my MinPin

I have a miniature pinscher, he's absolutely the most intelligent dog EVER... However, the most stubborn. He does not trample through his own poop? I'm not sure where you got that idea. Also... the whole "hyper" dog thing is a bit of a dramatization. These dogs are generally weary of strangers and this makes them hyper, my miniature pinscher lays around all day, and cuddles with us. Hes on a constant quest to get comfortable and cuddle. I love my miniature pinscher & the only thing I would ever change would be his weariness of strangers.
 

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Well Im very biased owning two chis, (I really dont know all that much about min pins btw) but chihuahuas are a wonderful breed, My familly and some of my friends and my bf were against the idea of me getting a chihuahua. I think there is a lot of negative stereotyping, that chihuahuas are yappy little ankle biters, or dog for bimbos who just sits there and look pretty. But chihuahuas are neither yappy nor dull, they are full off personality, very affectionate and extremely intelligent, Ive converted all the doubters into chi lovers, and they all want one now too.
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well there is this
http://www.petrix.com/dogint/index.html
minpins 37 chi`s 67....
have you meet some of either??

And the three dumbest dogs according to petrix....


Lowest Degree of Working/Obedience Intelligence

Understanding of New Commands: 80 to 100 repetitions or more.

Obey First Command: 25% of the time or worse.


77 Bulldog
78 Basenji
79 Afghan Hound



Yeah....I am going to have to go ahead and disagree with this...Because Stols is way smarter then that link would have you think. Oh and BTW....my buddies Lab....retarded at age 4 compared to Stoli at 5 months.




I would pick the Min Pin....for no reason other than I think they are more cool.
 

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