Married in a Church/Counseling

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We were going to get married in Aug. 2009 outside. Well we got to thinking, and we might change our date to Feb 2009 now. Since that is still winter, we will have to get married in a Church.

Either of us go to Church, but we found this cute little church that we like. We called the guy and he said its $400.00 and we would have to see him 3x before we get married to talk about "wedding stuff" he said...

I heard about church making you go to pre-marriage counseling...I was just wondering if anyone knew what they talk to you about?? and why is it 3x...lol
 

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They'll probably tell you that if you're having sex now, stop until the wedding.
That's the only specific thing I've ever heard about pre-marriage counseling because people moan and complain about it. Other than that, they really just want to kind of get to know you and your relationship.

But if you want to get married indoors, you don't have to use a church. => Lots of places will hold a wedding ceremony indoors.
 

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My daughter went through this before her wedding. The counceling was like things of wedding planning, the sanctity of marriage, and even money management as a couple, and how to develope open communication. She said at first she just thought it was the " routine" to go through, but later stated they actually got alot out of it.
 
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Is it a Catholic church?

To get married in Church they do require you to go through 'marriage counseling'.

For instance, my Church requires that both the bride and groom show their Baptism papers, you have to take classes that talk about natural birth control, you also have to meet with a married couple and they decide whether you seem 'fit' for each other(answer questions on paper, and they look to see how similar you answered). There are a few other basic classes, but it is fairly simple. They aren't going to tell you not to get married, I believe they just want to see you get involved a bit.

And beanie is right, I know they do ask if you are sleeping in the same room. Just be honest with that.

I have never been through it, my sister is currently. I know the Father wants to meet with her and her Fiance this month that may be something you may have to do as well.

Either way Congratulations!
 

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Okay, thanks everyone!!

It was a Anglican Church..So that is why we were surprised that we had to even do the counseling thing.
 

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Our counseling was pretty easy. We met a few times. We got a workbook. There were questions and scenarios, we had to talk about our difference of opinions. I think the most important part is that the pastor is able to get to know you a little bit, so the service is personalized as much as possible. Neither hubby nor I belonged to the church we got married in, so it was kind of vital to have those sessions, so the pastor got a sense of who we were. :)
 

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I haven't gone through this yet, but from what I've heard from other people is that it's a chance to have an unbiased person make you take an indepth look at your opinions on things like money management, children, fighting styles, etc. It's pretty much to make sure that you two have actually thought about what married life is going to be like and haven't just been viewing things through a romanticized "rose-colored glasses" lens.
 

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We were married in a Catholic ceremony, so we had to attend a weekend counseling retreat. It was a great experience. There were probably 30 couples there, and we did a lot of talking and such. My husband isn't religious, and he really enjoyed it.
 
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We got married in the Catholic Church as I am Catholic and my husband is not (un baptized even *gasp* LOL)--we had to take the long quiz (which includes questions about if you think your significant other does drugs or is possibly gay)--and we did a weekend retreat where they had married couples talk about money management, family planning, the sanctity of marriage--nothing too tough
 

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We got married in the Catholic Church as I am Catholic and my husband is not (un baptized even *gasp* LOL)--we had to take the long quiz (which includes questions about if you think your significant other does drugs or is possibly gay)--and we did a weekend retreat where they had married couples talk about money management, family planning, the sanctity of marriage--nothing too tough
I was going to just let this one go, but sorry, I can't. WTF??????
 
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Yeah-it was pretty funny. I guess sometimes young people rush into marriage but seriously. I'm sorry but if you are checking yes on this one you probably should be having a conversation with your significant other not secretly checking yes on a quiz.

It was something like 5-6 pages long--some of the questions were valid--do you have financial goals that are in sync, do you agree about family, do you have a good relationship with your SO's family--but others were laugh out loud funny....
 

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If any church insisted I have counciling before hand I would tell them right where they could go! And that involves somewhere where the sun don't shine!
If we, as mature adults, have decided to get married do you not think that we have a pretty good idea on the pros and cons of each other???

It is downright rude if you ask me. Churchs are always trying to recruit and they do it by sticking thier noses into peoples private lives. That is fine if you are happy with some stranger deciding if you are compatible but I would not take that lying down!
 

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If any church insisted I have counciling before hand I would tell them right where they could go! And that involves somewhere where the sun don't shine!
If we, as mature adults, have decided to get married do you not think that we have a pretty good idea on the pros and cons of each other???

It is downright rude if you ask me. Churchs are always trying to recruit and they do it by sticking thier noses into peoples private lives. That is fine if you are happy with some stranger deciding if you are compatible but I would not take that lying down!
I'm sorry you feel this way.. It seems to me you're too quick to judge what you have no ideas about!

My husband & I also got married in a Catholic Church. Since we're both practicing catholics, we wouldn't have it any other way.

I don't know about elsewhere, but in the Diocese where we belong, we were required to attend 6 2-hour sessions at least 3 months before getting married. The classes are offered year round, so it's convenience for everyone. By the way, I would call it " pre-wedding classes" instead of "counseling sessions" because it's nothing private.

but instead, we gathered together with about 30 couples who were also in the same boat as ours and listened to multiple speakers talking about different subjects of marriage life. I remember there was a lawyer talking about law-related subjects from the pros/cons of prenupture agreement, to the laws regarding domestic abuse, to the benefit of having a living will/trust, to how to title your house if you buy one together..

There were OB/GYN & Pediatric doctors talking about ways to practice natural planning, how to talk care of oneself & one's future children.. how & what to expect when you're pregnant & have a child.. There were also couples who've been living the marriage life for 40, 50 years that come to share about the ups and downs of marriage as they've experienced it, and the "secrets" of staying together through them all. Of course, there were Priests talking about the extreme importance of the Sacramental vow that is to last for a lifetime.

There was a 100 multiple-choice questions "test" at the end to see if whether the couples retained any of the information or that they were too busy dotting on each other & didn't pay attention ;). If you pass, you get a "certificate". Since the pre-wedding class is mandatory, we needed to give a copy of this certificate to our Priest before he officiated the wedding.

The purposes of these classes are NOT to see whether you know about your future spouse (they assume you DO know about each other enough to want to get married to each other!!), but it serves to remind you of the importance of the Sacrament of marriage, one that will & should last a lifetime. It provided a glimpse of reality of the married life & called for the future grooms & birdes to reflect on their relationship, and really really think about whether they're 100% ready to take it to the next step.

So, I strongly believe that EVERYONE who're about to get married should attend these classes if they're offered. Maybe it will help keep the divorce rate down one family at a time..

ETA: I've heard that they've now changed from six 2-hour sessions (6 consecutive Saturday mornings!) to four 3-hour sessions (4 Saturday mornings) to shorten the duration of the course.
 
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I'm sorry you feel this way.. It seems to me you're too quick to judge what you have no ideas about!
And you are too quick to judge what you have no ideas about.
I am very aware of what it takes to be in a succesful relationship. My SO and I have worked on ourselves and we attend couples counciling once a month to just help keep our relationship on track. It helps to air our thoughts.
I take serious offence to you telling me I have no idea about this. I DO NOT need some priest telling me about my life thank you. I have it sorted.
 

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If any church insisted I have counciling before hand I would tell them right where they could go! And that involves somewhere where the sun don't shine!
If we, as mature adults, have decided to get married do you not think that we have a pretty good idea on the pros and cons of each other???

It is downright rude if you ask me. Churchs are always trying to recruit and they do it by sticking thier noses into peoples private lives. That is fine if you are happy with some stranger deciding if you are compatible but I would not take that lying down!
If you don't like it don't get married in a church. So many people don't these days. (We got married by a pastor in my mother's garden) If you want the church's blessing then they have the right to make sure of what they are blessing.
 

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It all sounds quite draconican to me.. But then I don't believe you have to be married to someone to show commitment, loyalty, trust and faithfulness.. In fact I think it's more special to be unmarried and stay with someone because you truely love them, not because you have a piece of paper that says that you ought to no matter how much you don't want to be with them any more.

Each to their own.. Not sure I would be willing to go though.. Not that it will ever happen, I refuse to enter churches.. But that's a whole different story. ;)
 

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If you don't like it don't get married in a church. So many people don't these days. (We got married by a pastor in my mother's garden) If you want the church's blessing then they have the right to make sure of what they are blessing.
I am getting married in a chapel. Except this is a chapel the does not think it needs to stick its nose into the business of others. It has no priest, does not have services and you are allowed to use it for any sort of wedding ceremony you would like. My kind of non-judgmental know it all place.
 

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If you don't like it don't get married in a church. So many people don't these days. (We got married by a pastor in my mother's garden) If you want the church's blessing then they have the right to make sure of what they are blessing.
I totally agree :)

If somebody wants to use my house and have me sign anything, you can bet I would be doing a little background check.

The counseling isn't an attempt to change your mind about getting married, or to turn you against your fiancée. It's to bring up issues that perhaps you hadn't thought of before and help you both see more clearly.

If you HAVE thought of those issues and DO see clearly (eye to eye) then it's just a formality and you have nothing to worry about. It's meant to HELP.

Getting defensive or being afraid to go shows that perhaps you (general you, not anyone in particular) aren't as sure about the person you have chosen to marry??
 

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Nope, me (I know you were being general) getting defensive is because in my opinion is see the whole church counciling thing as pretty darn arrogant. Then again, I find most things connected to the church arrogant. There is no way anyone is going to MAKE me do something. If you won't marry us without counciling then you won't marry me at all.
I know plenty of priests that will perform a marrige without counciling.

I was originally not going to use a priest but rather a justice of the peace but it means allot to my SOs mother that we use a priest so I will do it for her. The priest we have in mind does not insist on counciling.
 

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