Malinois Police K9 dies, forgotten in patrol car in AZ heat.
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I am sorry about the guys son. Would the officer have the same regard for one of us if we had an excuse to leave our dog to die in a hot automobile or would he cite us? To the letter of the law is how I have been handled by police. I think he should be subject to the same outcome we would be, and if his leave is paid, that isnt leave, its vacation.
Nailing this guy to a post isnt going to fix the wrong nor is it going to make the world a better place, but I have no sympathy for those who are willing to cost working people money, for violations that dont create victims.
Nailing this guy to a post isnt going to fix the wrong nor is it going to make the world a better place, but I have no sympathy for those who are willing to cost working people money, for violations that dont create victims.
These only work if the car is turned on. So in this case it wouldn't have done any good. He would have had to remember the dog was in the vehicle to remember to leave the car on so the heat sensor was working.
This was a tragic accident, but I can't see comparing it to people who leave their dogs in a hot vehicle while they run into the grocery store, or go to work, etc. Most of the people who are complaining about getting a ticket for leaving their dog in a vehicle made the concious decision to do so.
Regarding paid vs unpaid leave while this is being investigated, should everyone else who is being investigated for a crime be forced to go without any source of income while they are under investigation? And I'm talking about officers in general, not just this specific case. What if you are found innocent, but hey, to bad, you lost weeks or months of income in the meantime.
This was a tragic accident, but I can't see comparing it to people who leave their dogs in a hot vehicle while they run into the grocery store, or go to work, etc. Most of the people who are complaining about getting a ticket for leaving their dog in a vehicle made the concious decision to do so.
Regarding paid vs unpaid leave while this is being investigated, should everyone else who is being investigated for a crime be forced to go without any source of income while they are under investigation? And I'm talking about officers in general, not just this specific case. What if you are found innocent, but hey, to bad, you lost weeks or months of income in the meantime.
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Knowing what cops go through on a daily basis, the stress, the physical torture, the over worked life that they lead, something like this does not suprise me.
While it may seem impossible for such a tragedy to happen, it is a very real event. Parents working long hours, over taxing themselves, and trying to get their jobs done, often forget about their kids in the car especially if schedules are change or upheaved. This is not animal abuse because it was not intentional.
I would hope that while emotions are running high right now, some of you will step back and try to imagine what it is like to work a "cops hours". Sometimes pulling double shifts, sometimes working "off the clock". They are still human with human limitations and with buget cuts and layoffs it would not suprise me if this guy was working the job of three men. Yes, it is horrible, and yes it is a tragedy, but I am willing to bet that that man is feeling enough guilt to kill and elephant. I can only hope that no one here ever has to experience such a personal tragedy to understand/comprehend what it's like.
While it may seem impossible for such a tragedy to happen, it is a very real event. Parents working long hours, over taxing themselves, and trying to get their jobs done, often forget about their kids in the car especially if schedules are change or upheaved. This is not animal abuse because it was not intentional.
I would hope that while emotions are running high right now, some of you will step back and try to imagine what it is like to work a "cops hours". Sometimes pulling double shifts, sometimes working "off the clock". They are still human with human limitations and with buget cuts and layoffs it would not suprise me if this guy was working the job of three men. Yes, it is horrible, and yes it is a tragedy, but I am willing to bet that that man is feeling enough guilt to kill and elephant. I can only hope that no one here ever has to experience such a personal tragedy to understand/comprehend what it's like.
My information came from multiple officer that are familar with these devises. They are meant to be a backup to the officer leaving the car running with the AC on. There might be a way to rewire them, but the way they are intended to be installed they only work when the car is turned on, or at least the key is in and turned (like your power windows, fans, etc the key has to at least be in the ignition and turned). And unfortunately there have been cases of these devices failing also and dogs dieing in the vehicle.
IMO there should be a way to make them work all the time, with an on/off switch so the officer can turn it off when he's parking the car without the dog in it, that way it doesn't run the battery dead or make the alarm go off and the windows roll down when there isn't even a dog in the car. But that would still require the officer to remember the dog is in the car and turn the unit on.
IMO there should be a way to make them work all the time, with an on/off switch so the officer can turn it off when he's parking the car without the dog in it, that way it doesn't run the battery dead or make the alarm go off and the windows roll down when there isn't even a dog in the car. But that would still require the officer to remember the dog is in the car and turn the unit on.
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Why not just impliment current technology which can detect a heart beat in a car (anti theft/car jacking device) and have it set to go off if a car is turned off for more than three minutes and a live body is detected in the car?
This way WHEN an animal or child is forgotten, an alarm sounds. It could even be made to call you on your sell phone and send an automated alert.
This way WHEN an animal or child is forgotten, an alarm sounds. It could even be made to call you on your sell phone and send an automated alert.
