Ma'ii's instinct test... PICS

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So Ma'ii had his herding instinct test today. We were suppose to have it weeks ago, but we kept experiencing scheduling conflicts, so today was the big day! It went about as well as I thought it would. Over all, Ma'ii did great, but needs some training and direction. The test was done by a local rancher who's huge into stock dogs. He was a bit biased towards Border Collies, and made a comment about how ACDs are a very "thick headed" breed, so I was leary before the test began if he was even going to give Ma'ii a fair chance.... But once he was in the pen, it went well, the rancher agreed that he has potential, and said he'd be willing to work with us. So we'll be heading back in a week or so for Ma'ii's first class!
 

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Wow, it looks like he's having the time of his life! :) Are you going to take lessons with him? Lol @ the rancher's comment... it's so funny how ACD people talk crap about BCs and vice versa. An ACD person told me BCs are dumb and end up getting kicked by cattle. I can see how one breed is great with stubborn cattle, and the other is best with timid sheep. Gonzo is the rare BC who herds like an ACD on crack.
 

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Wow, it looks like he's having the time of his life! :) Are you going to take lessons with him? Lol @ the rancher's comment... it's so funny how ACD people talk crap about BCs and vice versa. An ACD person told me BCs are dumb and end up getting kicked by cattle. I can see how one breed is great with stubborn cattle, and the other is best with timid sheep. Gonzo is the rare BC who herds like an ACD on crack.
I KNOW! The thing is, neither breed is dumb, both are HIGHLY intelligent, it's just they were bred to herd totally different livestock. It's stupid. But other than that, I liked him and he knew what he was doing as far as training stock dogs went. We'll be back next week to begin classes with him :)
 
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I really enjoyed your pictures! Thank you for posting!

Glad it went well; I figured it would from what you said!

I'm also really happy you're continuing with it!
 

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I really enjoyed your pictures! Thank you for posting!

Glad it went well; I figured it would from what you said!

I'm also really happy you're continuing with it!
It was a lot of fun for sure! Ma'ii was more into scattering them than driving them in any particular direction, but we'll work on it!
 

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It was a lot of fun for sure! Ma'ii was more into scattering them than driving them in any particular direction, but we'll work on it!
Ahahaha, Auggie had a few bowling-for-sheep moments too. I'm glad it went well! If they have the instinct and drive to do it, the rest can all be taught. It will be exciting to see him learn!


I can see how one breed is great with stubborn cattle, and the other is best with timid sheep.
Actually with timid sheep, a BC has far too much power - that's the reason looser eyed herders (like shelties) were developed. Light sheep require a lighter herding dog.
Most sheep aren't really timid. As a prey species they'll flock, but a cornered sheep, or even small groups of sheep, will fight - and plenty of sheep are happy to challenge a green dog too.
 

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Actually with timid sheep, a BC has far too much power - that's the reason looser eyed herders (like shelties) were developed. Light sheep require a lighter herding dog.
Most sheep aren't really timid. As a prey species they'll flock, but a cornered sheep, or even small groups of sheep, will fight - and plenty of sheep are happy to challenge a green dog too.
Yeah, the sheep didn't seem so much afraid as they were annoyed at having a dog rush at them. They were alert but chill with his presence when he was leashed. Sheep are pretty intelligent critters.
 

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I should probably post a new thread for this, and may if no one answers, but for those of you that have herding and stock dog experience, everyone seems to be concerned about Ma'ii's age. He's 8 years old, and whenever I tell someone this, they kind of cringe and ask "....why now?" I get he's no spring chicken, but he's in great shape for his age and has SO much energy still. I see great potential in him, and I'd really hate for his age to stand in his way. I understand he may never get to the point where we trial with him, but the idea was to do this for fun and because I thought it would be good for his head.
 

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