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Our dog has chronic gingivitis and the vet doesn't know why it seems to be so bad in such a young dog of his breed. Did tooth cleaning, etc. But husband asked if there was anything we should be doing preventatively, like some sort of Listerine for dogs. Vet said that wasn't a bad idea. He suggested putting a very dilute amount in the water.

I want to know... Do you agree? Disagree?
 

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Vet said that wasn't a bad idea. He suggested putting a very dilute amount in the water.
As in the vet suggests drinking it? I'd disagree. Likely your dog will know and may choose not to drink. If it does drink I doubt even slight amounts of Listerine ingested is a good idea.
 

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I use this: Oral Care Gel - Peppermint - PetzLife Oral Care, Dog Dental Care - PetzLife and for my dogs it works better than anything else I've used. I also find using gauze pads to clean their teeth is more effective than a tooth brush. Giving him things to chew on can also be helpful.

IME, diet can play a role in keeping their teeth clean, but not always as well as general health ~ my dogs' teeth stayed a lot cleaner when they got acupuncture on a regular basis. :dunno: My theory is that it somehow helped improve the bacteria fighting elements of their saliva? IDK though.
 

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How old is your dog? What breed?

Brushing teeth is THE best thing to do. Use a toothpaste specifically for dogs, human toothpastes will make them sick.

You can get oral rinses for dogs, but they are specially formulated for dogs. DO NOT use Listerine or Scope or any of that crap. Other than the alcohol, a lot of human dental products also contain Xylitol, which is extremely toxic to dogs. Even a small amount can cause serious problems. Teeth need to be brushed at least once a day, twice a day is better. Brushing just once in a while won't do much.

You can also give dental chews. CET Hextra chews, as mentioned above, are really good. There's also Greenies, regular rawhides, or good old raw meaty bones.

Soft (canned) foods can contribute to dental disease. So can extruded kibble (most kibble is extruded, unless it specifically says it's baked). Baked kibbles have more of a scraping action than extruded kibbles, which can help clean the teeth.

Some dogs will let you scale the teeth, too, to get buildup off. Both my dogs let me hand-scale their teeth, and I do so when I notice some buildup. But the vast majority of dogs will have nothing to do with this.

Your vet may also have, or be able to get, Oravet. It's a sealant that you put on the teeth once a week. We don't have many people who use it, but the few who do have dentals less often than those who don't use it.

And then there's chance, genetics, and whatever else. Max, my parents' 12.5 year old GSD has never needed a dental cleaning. He's not a chewer, he's never had the best foods, but his teeth are still great. Some small breeds seem to need a dental every 6 to 12 months.
 

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How old is your dog? What breed?
He's 3 1/2 and is a cocker/cavalier mix. In great health otherwise. Vet said he thought it must have been from some sort of allergy medication (still don't understand that). Husband told him he wasn't on any medication so the vet did a biopsy to make sure it wasn't autoimmune. It wasn't so he's stumped.

He's not really a chewer, either. He used to chew on filled hooves quite a bit but I stopped that when he started regularly getting larger pieces off and swallowing them. He doesn't like filled bones after the filling is gone and just licks them if I refill with peanut butter. He likes Greenies, but I wasn't really sure how much good that would do since it is such a short period of time that he's eating it. I haven't tried rawhide, don't really want to though since I've seen so many bad posts about them.
 

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Small breeds, including Cavaliers and mixes, are prone to dental disease.

I'm curious - you say they biopsied it? Is it gingivitis, or gingival hyperplasia? I don't really see a point in taking a biopsy of gingivitis, it's just infection/irritation of the gums. But gingival hyperplasia, on the other hand, should be biopsied to rule out tumors.
 

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Saefolu has some great suggestions. Cleaning is really important if a dog is prone to dental problems.

Speaking for myself here - I would have been very unhappy with the response of your vet to the gingivitis. I would see another vet. In all animals, dogs, humans, whatever, inflammation of the gums increases the risk of a number of diseases including heart disease and liver disease. Anything that causes long term chronic inflammation is bad for the body.

Get the gingivitis treated asap. It is bad for health and painful for your poor pup.
 

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