Let's talk Cardis

Discussion in 'The Dog Breeds' started by Laurelin, Jul 21, 2012.

  1. SizzleDog

    SizzleDog Lord Cynical

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    I was referring to instability - inappropriate aggression towards other animals and people specifically. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
     
  2. Laurelin

    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    Umm, kind of not really. More of a passing 'oh that breed looks neat!' kind of thing. I thought about them as an alternative to a sheltie but I'm just not feeling it to be honest.

    *wanders off to read the other replies*
     
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    And it's VERY obvious you've never owned a "bad" Corgi before. You don't know squat until you've been near a dog like this. SNOTTY is the word I've been looking for, He goes beyond and over snarky, Snotty, Snotty, Snot, he is.

    He's just down right BAD with other dogs, AND people. Just this morning he was getting nasty with my mother, obviously he hadn't been given enough to eat for dinner, all she did was walking into the kitchen and off he went "ERRRR! ERRRR! ERR!" and I'm NOT talking about the Corgi grumble either, he does that when he feels you haven't given him enough attention, this is down right demanding. Don't get me wrong he IS mostly talk, not saying he wouldn't lash out, he has, but it's this nasty talk that got his a!! in trouble, more than once.

    It just comes down to this in the end period, SEE BOTH PARENTS, no matter what kind of breeder you go to, if you can't have personal time with both parents or know someone who has seen the sire, just don't go there. And I'm saying this from both breeds, and any really, as it's beyond obvious Enda as well is more her sire than anything too.


    And I do NOT allow resource guarding in my house! He**, he actually moves aside and lets Noods take over his food bowl once he's finished, they all eat separate, the boys opposite ends of the kitchen, Enda in another room with the door shut because she doesn't always eat all her food or even any of it.

    Yes, I had to stop taking him out to "dog" places because he finally got to the point where he would start snarling at dogs from several feet away.


    ^^^ EXACTLY! And my brother wears the scars to prove it (although bro started that one).

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    NO I'm not stating to change the temperaments, I already read your forums bash-all on the user who was breeding meek tempered show pets years ago :rolleyes:, you need not throw those pi** stones at me, save them for the real ruiners of the breed. There are many quality's of Jinj I couldn't live without, he's BOLD, Eager, Brave, Solid, and also an awesome herder! as well as mouse hunter. But, if I wanted the fight picker temper of a terrier, I would have gotten a terrier, and his temper even goes beyond that, he's more stereo type Pit bull than any Pit bull I've met! THIS! Is what we don't need, it's a fine balance to get all the other right quality's sure, but a livable temperament is a must. Period.
     
  4. SizzleDog

    SizzleDog Lord Cynical

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    YES!!!!

    Pembrokes aren't supposed to be dogs that cannot coexist with other dogs. Pembrokes aren't supposed to be the type of dog you have to tiptoe around because they'd bite you as soon as look at you. That's not correct. Pembrokes can have all the **** and vinegar they're famous for without being dangerous.
     
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    You have no idea how happy I am to have someone else out there that knows what I've been through :hail:! He is beyond so much better today through careful management, and simply old age (and possibly as well from having a bitch in the house who will kick his ***, and has), but it's been a long road, and it's one I hope to never go down again, and maybe someday I will be able to help others walk the best path too.

    Oh, and Revy is so darn cute! <3 her!
     
  6. Keechak

    Keechak Aussie Obssessed

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    There is a local breeder of Cardis that I know well. Their dogs are amazing little agility dogs, not quite as bulky as many of the show cardis, they have several MACH dogs that they own and at least one of their dog's has multiple MACH's. Their dogs remind me very much of short-legged ACD's full to the brim with attitude, drive, and spit. I love almost every thing about Cardi's in general, the only thing I don't like are the common fiddle front legs I see which aren't very sound for a sport or working dog. Luckily the dogs from the breeder I know don't have as extreme a fiddle front as most Cardi's. And I do like how they appear more rugged (to me) than Pemmies.
     
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    Well SOMEONE has to tend to her every need! We can't have the minions drowning. :lol-sign:


    FG - would you mind pm'ing me the breeder of your girls? I freaking adore them and someday I will have a Cardi so I need to obsess over breeders for the next five years or so. :p
     
  8. Emily

    Emily Rollin' with my bitches

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    I'm pretty sure I know which breeder you're talking about. :) I really like their dogs, and their dogs are consistently ranked in the breed for agility.

    As for the hallmark bowed front of the breed, it has actually been present since long before Cardigans were bred primarily for show. In fact, it was one of the features that helped breed enthusiasts sort the dogs from Pembrokeshire vs the dogs from Cardiganshire. So it was a feature of the working Cardigan for years (probably thousands ;) ) before they were brought into the showring. Like it or not, it is truly a hallmark of the breed.

    That said, I agree it's not something you typically regard as sound, and MANY Cardis have had the bowed front exaggerated beyond reason. Just like they've had their dwarfism exaggerated beyond reason. But most conformation breeds are selecting for extremes (by their own admission) vs. moderation, and that is where the trouble lies IMO.
     
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    You need to meet some freaking Tollers already, kthnxbye :p
     

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