Landlord's annoying dog

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I'd just be upset if I had to not turn my dog out all the time over a renters dog.
But nobody suggested that the landlord shouldn't be allowed to turn out his dog. Only that she be allowed to restrain the dog for a brief period so dog drama doesn't ensue. Chester doesn't like other dogs getting in his bubble and is easily freaked out, so I understand the frustration.

I agree with the no sick/injury deal, and asking to tie up temporarily. I think the training would be a good back-up plan, but it would take some time. You could also approach it with the landlord as, "If me tying him up for a few minutes isn't acceptable, is there another idea you would suggest?"
 

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Think I said chew in my original post. Kong?

My #1 worry is her housing since its been an issue.

Approach carefully and read him. We are dog people and get it. They may not be. I said talk to him. Never said not to.

And good lord are people reading into this.
 

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If the dog was polite and well behaved, I'd see the landlords right to be annoyed ("my dog was here first, this is my home, it's his yard too") but if the dog is jumping on people and barking at them and in your dog's faces, I see no reason the landlord wouldn't agree to that reasonable request
 

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Skittles, I hope you figure out something that works for you in this situation.

I don't think it is unreasonable to ask someone to put their dog up so that you can walk yours in peace. People who let their dogs run loose because they "live in the country" really tick me off. My parents live in the country, and my dogs were attacked in THEIR OWN YARD because of neighbors who thought it was ok to let their boxer run loose. They were also attacked by the same boxer when my parents had them on a walk (on leash) and Daisy actually made that boxer bleed. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere, you should not be letting your dog run loose all over your neighbor's yards. Even if you are in the middle of nowhere, there are still dangers to letting your dog run loose with no supervision. In most rural areas it is perfectly legal for a farmer to shoot your dog if it is bothering their livestock. Not to mention your dog could tangle with a wild animal, get stuck in a poacher's trap, eat something bad, etc.
 

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You could offer to help train the dog as a thank you for the favor they did you. That way you won't insult..the 2 year old lab might have a chance not to follow in the footsteps of the dog before him.
 

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On the other hand it is easy to teach a dog that they have to stay away from you & only you (mine while they are staying at my folks know what they can get away with with them but when I am home visiting they are perfect angels) I agree, a few shots of citronella spray, though some dogs need something "tougher", I always used something called "Wrap Last" which is essentually pepper spray, its actually something you spray on stall bandages to keep the horses from messing with them.

One shot of that in the face & most dogs will not do it more then twice, its better then lets say, their dog & your dogs having a free for all when one or more of them get sick of being harassed with they are trying to use the restroom. Not to mention it can regress your training (having dogs that will start to not use the restroom for fear of being bombarded by some obnoxious dog).

That is if they say no to the tieing him up thing while you are outside but I would not lie about the reason, I would be straight foward with them, I would say in a diplomatic way that your dogs aare unable to use the restroom even because their dog is bothering them & then ask if you guys can compromise on just tying the dog up when you are outside letting your dogd do their business, then taking your dogs back inside, then letting their dog off.

you could also make a date where all the dogs can be outside playing together for further compromise or something like that (not during your dogs "bathroom time") maybe after your dogs have used the restroom or something like that.

also maybe you could offer to work with the dog to make him more neighborhood friendly to benifit everyone.
 
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I definitely would NOT spray or otherwise punish a dog that is not yours and technically is on its own property. That would be a quick way to get evicted IMO
 

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If my tenants sprayed my dog in the face with pepper spray they would be out on their ass in two seconds.
 

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Yeah, if my tenant was punishing my dog they'd be gone.

Ask if you can tie him while you are pottying the dogs and see what they say. Say your dogs want to play with their dog so won't go potty or say they are scared of him.
 

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Yeah but our dogs arent being obnoxious & doing dangerous behavior, the OP has gone to them & given them the heads up (to my knowledge more then once, & as I read it, the neighbors have too) so its not like she just upped & decided to spray the dog in the face (the very obnoxious dog mind you). Still how is it any different then lets say if the neighbors did it.

I would toss someone out if they did anything like that to my dog... BUT my dogs are well behaved also, so they would be "punishing" them for doing normal, polite doggy things.
 

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If the neighbors did it, the dog would be on the neighbors property, so it is different, the neighbors would have the right to spray a dog bothering them on their own property. But on the owners property the owners decide what's okay and what is not in regards to their dog.
 

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It doesn't matter if she's gone to them about it or not, or if the dog "deserves" it or not. It's their property and their choice to let their dog do what it likes on their property.
If my tenants sprayed my dog in the face with pepper spray they would be out on their ass in two seconds.
 

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So ... a possible dog fight btw the tenant's dog & the landlord's dog is better ... how? pepper spray doesnt injure the dog ... it just gives them a bad experience, like an electric fence or something (jump on the fence, get shocked).

Of course ... if the landlord is ok with her tying up their dog when her dogs are using the yard, then problem solved, I only suggested it if they dont go for it, it is also the OP's responsibiloty to protect her dogs as well who can't even go to the bathroom in peace.

also, you could make a little fenced area using cheap, temporary fencing to take your dogs so the other dog cant harass them.
 

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I don't use positive punishment on my dogs and it is NOBODY ELSE'S business to do so.
That's like suggesting it's cool to smack somebody's kid in the face if they're annoying your kid. Not okay.
 

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I am not a fan of positive punishment either but I have one dog who its the only thing that works for her ... but thats another thread.

I can't speak for kids since I am not nor will ever be a parent. But if you spoke to the parent/owner (in the case of a dog) & nothing was done, & my dogs were being harassed & in danger then yes I would say "if you don't manage your dog, I will protect mine"

because if my dogs were being obnoxious, & someone brought it to my attention then I would manage them pronto.
 

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But using positive punishment on YOUR dog is YOUR decision.
Using positive punishment on MY dog is MY decision. Not yours.
Not okay.
 

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If my tenants sprayed my dog in the face with pepper spray they would be out on their ass in two seconds.
This.

I wouldn't use any form of punishment on their dog.

I like the idea of building a temporary fenced in area, maybe approach them with that?
 

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I understand the pepper spray thing, but from what I read, the dog isn't really a DANGER to her dogs. It's annoying and needs to chill out.

If you're walking your dog along the sidewalk and a strange dog comes sprinting towards you.... that might be a good time to use the spray. But if a neighbor's little chi comes outside and starts barking its head off.... not a good time to use spray.

She wants to stay on good terms with neighbors. I wouldn't be on good terms with someone who sprayed, kicked, screamed, etc. to my dog.

I don't think the people should have a problem with tying up the dog for a few minutes.

I actually have a similar problem. Big chocolate lab that wanders the 'hood. Has barked and stood behind my car numerous times. Doesn't leave my porch. Scratches my door, etc.

But I would NOT kick the dog or spray it make it scared or anything like that. He is a NICE dog. Overly nice, yes. But I wouldn't want to mess up his kindness.

I hope you can find a happy medium. From what you've said they just seem like they aren't in the 'dog' crowd. Not everyone trains their dogs. A lot of people don't feel the need to.

This is not really a solution, but if asking to tie the dog up creates tension, maybe you could teach him to sit or an equally easy trick. Just to show the people that you don't hate the dog and that training your dog has its perks. Probably a lot of work for little results, but just putting it out there.
 

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I don't use positive punishment on my dogs and it is NOBODY ELSE'S business to do so.
That's like suggesting it's cool to smack somebody's kid in the face if they're annoying your kid. Not okay.
This.

If I do not stay on top of Cara she is that dog who is rude and obnoxious and overwhelming. Do I allow her to be? No. But left to her own devices? Absolutely.

If someone sprayed my dog in the face with pepper spray they should fear my wrath, doubly so if they're living in my house.

Do you realize that this could also potentially create reactivity/fear issues? :rolleyes:
 

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