Just curious, how many of you believe in a higher power?
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Yahweh pretty much cooked himself with me with his pettiness, paranoia, genocidal tendencies as self-promotion as "a jealous god."
Observation has taught me that the gods devised by mankind ARE petty and cruel and tend to validate all the worst in mankind. We even manage to pervert the teachings of the Great Teachers who come among us for their season and twist them to our own selfish ends.
Observation has taught me that the gods devised by mankind ARE petty and cruel and tend to validate all the worst in mankind. We even manage to pervert the teachings of the Great Teachers who come among us for their season and twist them to our own selfish ends.
S
Alternatively, you could look at it as if God is actually a kind and gentle god as so many christians say he is, would not living a good life helping others and being a good person be enough to earn his favor? Or would a person who poisons and kills hundreds of people by contaminating a town's water supply on purpose with a disease/virus that slowly kills someone, yet later in the last few years of his life says "wait, nvrmind. My bad." and converts after killing hundreds of people and living a life of absolute sin get in because he believes in god and asked for his forgiveness? If the first one goes to hell just for not believing, then I'll be with a bunch of other nice atheists burning in hell.
Aside from the obvious religious significance given the dominant religions of the time in the areas these monuments were built, and the fact that a lot of religion used astrology and these monuments point to certain major star on major days of the year (summer/winter solstice, spring/fall equniox)?
Hiding alien spacecraft? Most likely not. Hiding the crashes/ sightings of tp secret military aircraft? You bet.
Given that a lot of UFO sightings in the 80's were of a triangular shaped craft that seemed to zoom around at high speed, yet civilian radar never picked up anything in the area around the time of the sightings, and then this got declassified in 1988 from being top secret:
Aside from the obvious religious significance given the dominant religions of the time in the areas these monuments were built, and the fact that a lot of religion used astrology and these monuments point to certain major star on major days of the year (summer/winter solstice, spring/fall equniox)?
Hiding alien spacecraft? Most likely not. Hiding the crashes/ sightings of tp secret military aircraft? You bet.
Given that a lot of UFO sightings in the 80's were of a triangular shaped craft that seemed to zoom around at high speed, yet civilian radar never picked up anything in the area around the time of the sightings, and then this got declassified in 1988 from being top secret:
There are too many things that support this happening for me not to believe. Until its proven otherwise, I am still going to believe. I do not think its far fetched at all.
S
lol. I am sure there are top secret aircraft, but to fly that aircraft EVERYWHERE for people to easily see? Not so smart. Plus, disk shaped UFOs have been around for a VERY long time. Longer than we've had aircraft ourselves.
There are also those cases were people have come across UFOs that have landed. There are cases where police officers have even come across this. In one case a man came across an area where government officials were covering up a UFO crash after he seen everything. The man made a story about what he had seen (UFOs and what he thought were life from other planets). Government officials threatened his life not to say a word and made him destroy his story. Just something I thought was interesting, lol.
There are also those cases were people have come across UFOs that have landed. There are cases where police officers have even come across this. In one case a man came across an area where government officials were covering up a UFO crash after he seen everything. The man made a story about what he had seen (UFOs and what he thought were life from other planets). Government officials threatened his life not to say a word and made him destroy his story. Just something I thought was interesting, lol.
Absolutely not. Sticking with that specific passage, it says "submit yourselves to your husbands, as to the Lord". That really means "in a matter fitting the Lord". God is not an abuser. If the husband is abusing his wife, he's not treating her the way he should be treating her. In a different passage in the Epistles, wives are told to "do what is right and do not give way to fear." If the relationship is abusive, it's not the type of relationship that God would want for his children. I would interpret these scriptures that the wife should not put up with it and leave him.
There are actually more instructions in these passages for the husband than for the wife. The instructions are directed at how he should treat her. Abuse is not in those instructions.
Divorce is a separate issue. I'm torn on that, but legal separation with protection from abuse orders would definitely be appropriate.
There are actually more instructions in these passages for the husband than for the wife. The instructions are directed at how he should treat her. Abuse is not in those instructions.
Divorce is a separate issue. I'm torn on that, but legal separation with protection from abuse orders would definitely be appropriate.
I can assure you that I don't live my life thinking "Oh no I sinned I'm going to hell now"
the point is NOT that you can't SIN. Jesus died so that we can be humans and have sin because it was quite obvious that we are not capable of doing good ALL the time. I have sinned. I know it. God knows it. that doesn't mean I'm going to hell
why do people think that lol.
for me I believe that if I accept Jesus as my saviour... acknowledge that he died so that I would not be "condemmed" for my sins.
I feel free too
and I can't just DO whatever I want... I have loved ones to answer to when I act a fool.
the point is NOT that you can't SIN. Jesus died so that we can be humans and have sin because it was quite obvious that we are not capable of doing good ALL the time. I have sinned. I know it. God knows it. that doesn't mean I'm going to hell
why do people think that lol. for me I believe that if I accept Jesus as my saviour... acknowledge that he died so that I would not be "condemmed" for my sins.
I feel free too
and I can't just DO whatever I want... I have loved ones to answer to when I act a fool.
I don't believe that it says anywhere in the bible that a woman has to submit to abuse. If your husband is abusing you (obviously I don't mean YOUR husband lol just in general) then he is not fullfilling his duty. he is not following "Husbands love your wives and Christ loved the church..." Just because MAN twists the words to mean that he can beat up on his wife does not mean that God promotes it because he said wives submit to your husbands.
So if man is beating his wife and using that whole "obey and submit" thing as justification... he is only using it as a scape goat.
So if man is beating his wife and using that whole "obey and submit" thing as justification... he is only using it as a scape goat.
Indeed, I know from personal experience (during my period as an atheist) and from talking to many athiests, that often the problem is not with the idea of God, but with the behavior of some religious people and the interpretation of religious texts, which can be irrational, violent and repugnant. Some athiests legitimately argue that there is no reason to believe in God, which is a perfectly rational viewpoint, but some are more angry at God and seek to get back at him by not believing in him. (Some are both).
I realized one day that I wasn't angry at God, I was angry at his followers. That wasn't my moment of deciding to believe in God . . . that came later . . . but I realized the distinction between being angry at the very idea of God and being angry and replused by the behavior of a certain number of believers (of various faiths) and their interpretation of religious texts . . . or for that matter being angry at the texts themselves. God is not the same thing as "religion"; religion is a human construct created for the purpose of worshipping God, not the definition of God.
I realized one day that I wasn't angry at God, I was angry at his followers. That wasn't my moment of deciding to believe in God . . . that came later . . . but I realized the distinction between being angry at the very idea of God and being angry and replused by the behavior of a certain number of believers (of various faiths) and their interpretation of religious texts . . . or for that matter being angry at the texts themselves. God is not the same thing as "religion"; religion is a human construct created for the purpose of worshipping God, not the definition of God.
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