Jump Combination

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I agree with Dekka.
I worry especially about little Bruno on those jumps.
 

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Cute pics! I havent read all the points in this thread, but especially for the chubby chi, I would make the jumps a lil lower so he could clear it without pushing off from it

did you make those yourself?

Ive always wanted to try to make a little agility set. or maybe buy one for the backyard..that would be fun
 
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I don't believe you guys are flaming me, nor do I expect AWWW to everything. :) Trust me, I've made alot of comments in the same sense as you all have on here on other forums, but with Hamsters or Guinea Pigs or other animals. But I still stand in my own sense that it isn't that bad. You don't agree with me, alright, but I also don't agree with you. I have my own opinion on this, and I'm standing with it not going LALALA and blocking you out as one has suggested. I just won't post pictures of them doing this anymore since all are so bothered. And as I said before, it's not like something I do everyday with them. When I do do these high jumps, I only ask them to go over 3/4 times when I do bring the higher ones out. Yes, I did ask them to to the highest more this day, but usually, I don't have them go over as much.

Also, my apologys if I may have left something out you posted, I just kinda skimmed, but at the same time tried to read what all said enough to understand. ;]

AND ALSO AGAIN, my mom's boyfriend has built all I have as a present to me. He also made Weave Poles and a Teeter. :D
 

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Sigh, its not about opinion.

If I scan some articles (with related vet/science backing) on jumping and stress, and jumping and excess weight, then perhaps will you at least consider that its not an opinion?

(ie the world is round is not an opinion, an opinion would be round planets make the most sense)
 

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Canine Sports Productions: Corpulent Canines

Check out question #10 for this link by a Vet.

dog agility

Sadly most of the excellent information concerning jump heights and/or weight are from articles in Clean Run which are not available online. Please reconsider, as an instructor and competitor to a National level with high placements, I don't allow my students to over jump their dogs especially if they are a bit over weight, for the well being of the dog.
Btw, your dogs are very cute and appear to want to play at that game of agility. You could have a great deal of fun training in agility with a local instructor/club even if you don't want to compete.
Good luck and please at least look at the articles that I posted.
 

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So let me ask this - -when you post similar messages to other forums (like you said for hamsters and such) do you post out of opinion or for genuine concern of the animal?

It's NOT an opinion. It's fact. We're not posting just to argue with you, but to teach you and hopefully open your eyes to what is wrong with doing this.

If you INSIST on making them jump that high, at the very least PLEASE get the excess weight off of them. Gavroche was 7-10 pounds overweight and I wouldn't let him jump, and he's 60 pounds at a good weight (and he's used to jumping). Your guys are much smaller, so excess weight is relatively heavier, and thus a bigger problem.
 

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I want to say there are plenty of opinions about training, feeding, breeding, etc. But this is an obvious physical danger to your dog. Any thing you possibly read about doing a new physical activity with your dog or starting an exercise regimen would tell you to ask your vet, and no vet who went through vet school would ever tell you that that wasn't dangerous. Just because your dog doesn't limp after wards or act in pain doesn't mean it isn't dangerous/damaging him.

Would you ask an overweight person to jump over hurdles that were high enough for them to struggle to get over? They could certainly do it, but the damage it would do to their knees, joints, and spine is undeniable.

That being said I think it's wonderful you are interested in doing these activities and training with your dogs, but it's best if you do it safely. Why would you want to purposely put your dog in danger of a medical condition unnecessarily when the outcome would be exactly the same if you just lowered the jumps to a safe height? Until your overweight dog gets in shape he probably shouldn't be jumping at all, and should just be stepping over a bar.
 

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Thanks for the links, Lynn.

Just to repeat what others have said, it's not an opinion. It's a fact that it will put strain on your dogs to have them jump that high with excess weight, regardless of how often you do it. I would think that having them do those jumps rarely (you said they jump only every once in a while, not all the time) would be just as bad- their bodies are not used to it.
 

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