It's Not The Dog, It's The Owner

[Dave-W]

This story illustrates what I believe all of us on here know; problem dogs are the result of problem owners.

http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_249000146.html

"Maggie, being held at the Human Society facility in Huntington Beach, will be the second dog owned by Moody to be euthanized following an attack.
Another dog, Brutus, a pit bull-Australian shepherd mix, injured a 23-year-old visitor to Moody's home earlier this year."

Millions of people own millions of dogs of all kinds who never attack anybody.

This Idiot owns two, and both of them become menaces. She's batting 1.000 the wrong way.

Too bad they aren't going to euthanize the fool owner.

 

[rodalyndaan]

I think both owner and the dog should be euthanized. If there is irresponsible owner there might as well a wild animal(dog)...imho

 

[dakota41394]

It is up to the Owner to control and train the dog. Again , it always fall back on the responsibility of the owner.

 

[VWilson]

I think both owner and the dog should be euthanized. If there is irresponsible owner there might as well a wild animal(dog)...imho

I'll disagree. Just because a dog bites a human, or two, or three, does not mean the dog cannot be rehabbed/fixed, generally it is a matter of leadership, training, and discipline to make such behavior stop. The cause of biting dogs is always on the shoulders of the master. The master is responsible for the dogs behavior, and the master creates the conditions that allow a dog to become a biter, and the same people seem to continuously have biting dogs, no matter what breed they have.
Some people just should not own dogs, whether it is because they are cruel, or too nice, and allow the dog to get away anything for fear of being mean.

That said, with all the "good" dogs out there, very few people will want to take on the job of rehabbing a biter, as time can be more productively spent adopting out dogs that are already stable, and what we call "good".
It can be time consuming, and there is some risk of injury.

To say the dog needs to be PTS, because he is a biter, is a cop out, and a myth. To be logical, and practical by realizing that time could be better spent with other easier to work with softer dogs is true, and fair to say.
Rescues, and animal controls never seem to run out of available dogs to adopt out, so why spend valuable time, and rsources with a so called "bad dog", when there are 50 other good dogs in need, that can be processed with the same time, and resources that would be spent on one "bad dog".

Very few people have the time, are mentally prepared, and "ability equipped" to deal with delinquents, so it is simpler, and easier to hit them with some Sleep Away, and move on to the next one.

For the folks who work with rescues, you have to save what you can, and feel sympathy for those you can't. I am not criticizing rescues, and animal control, they do the best they can with what little they have

"It is just economics, and nothing personal" is something I can understand, even if I do not like it.


Val W.

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[rodalyndaan]

I'll disagree. Just because a dog bites a human, or two, or three, does not mean the dog cannot be rehabbed/fixed, generally it is a matter of leadership, training, and discipline to make such behavior stop. The cause of biting dogs is always on the shoulders of the master. The master is responsible for the dogs behavior, and the master creates the conditions that allow a dog to become a biter, and the same people seem to continuously have biting dogs, no matter what breed they have.
Some people just should not own dogs, whether it is because they are cruel, or too nice, and allow the dog to get away anything for fear of being mean.

That said, with all the "good" dogs out there, very few people will want to take on the job of rehabbing a biter, as time can be more productively spent adopting out dogs that are already stable, and what we call "good".
It can be time consuming, and there is some risk of injury.

To say the dog needs to be PTS, because he is a biter, is a cop out, and a myth. To be logical, and practical by realizing that time could be better spent with other easier to work with softer dogs is true, and fair to say.
Rescues, and animal controls never seem to run out of available dogs to adopt out, so why spend valuable time, and rsources with a so called "bad dog", when there are 50 other good dogs in need, that can be processed with the same time, and resources that would be spent on one "bad dog".

Very few people have the time, are mentally prepared, and "ability equipped" to deal with delinquents, so it is simpler, and easier to hit them with some Sleep Away, and move on to the next one.

For the folks who work with rescues, you have to save what you can, and feel sympathy for those you can't. I am not criticizing rescues, and animal control, they do the best they can with what little they have

"It is just economics, and nothing personal" is something I can understand, even if I do not like it.


Val W.

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Nice speech there eh.

 

[Lilavati]

Speaking as a lawyer, the is always the liability issue as well. In this country, people are always ready to sue at the drop of a hat . . . even if they have been warned, or are acting in ways in defiance of common sense. Doctrines such as assumption of risk and contributory negligence are vanishing, justifiably in many cases, but I don't think dog bites are one of those cases . . .

Although I personally feel that many biters can be reformed, and it would be much more just to try rather than just PTS, I understand fully why the policy tends to be euthanasia. A rescue or shelter or trainer can't help other animals if they are broke and embroiled in as nasty court battle. Worse, adopted dogs that do bite again give other rescued dogs a bad name. In the end, its damage control and economics, pure and simple. That may not be just or moral and its definately tragic, but we live in the time and place we live in and have to make the best of it.

 

[Dave-W]

Flash Update!

Seems this woman is going to be charged with a felony.

http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_324103345.html