Is there a name for this color?

[Romy]

This is a coat color I rarely see on any dogs, does it have a name? It is my absolute favorite, it reminds me of a toasted and slightly burnt marshmallow. In the past I have only seen it on akitas and wolfdogs (neither of which I am interesting in owning), but today I found a borzoi with the same kind of coloring.

 

[RD]

Sable, I believe.

 

[FoxyWench]

the lighter cream with darker guard hairs on top is sable and can come in many different colours. i have a red female chihuahua with BLUE sabling, it looks like the wolfdog only darker undercolour.

Sable is essentially a lighter coloured undercoat with darker tips or guard hairs
that borzoi is beautiful

the actual colour of the undercoat would i guess be consided a Fawn or cream.

 

[MelissaCato]

I dunno about the colors. But, that's a mighty fine build Akita puppy. I'd like to know that breeding.

 

[LappieLover]

I think the term is wolf sable.

Keeshonden are wolf sable. ^

This is an Elk Hound. ^ A shorter coat, but still wolf sable.

This is a wolf sable Pomeranian. ^

That Akita is not wolf sable. It doesn't appear to be sable at all. Perhaps the best term for it is a parti color, though I am not sure.

 

[Psyfalcon]

The Akita could be... as long as the hairs are striped or dark tipped, its sable. Sable is, however, hard to tell in pictures!

GSDs also come in sable, but from afar its hard to tell them from the "normal"coats in some instances.

The Sighthound does not look sable though, its a coat pattern, not an individual hair pattern on that dog.

 

[noludoru]

No offense, but none of those dogs are the same color.

The Borzoi is tan with a black saddle, typically seen in GSDs/Beagles/Foxhounds/etcetc. Also with white, making it look a little bit odd.

The wolf, as stated above, is Sable... once again which comes in many colors.

Tha Akita definitely looks some sort of sable, with a black face/mask. Lovely young dog...

 

[Bahamutt99]

I had a Pit Bull/Akita mix that was similar in color to the Akita pup above. (Without as much white. She had white socks and chest.) Someone told me it would be either seal or sable.

 

[Romy]

Thanks everyone! That helps alot, I just really like the look of the light tan with black, and white.

I found the akita picture here:

http://www.ksakitas.com/

at Kira Shira Akitas. They bred my brother's akita, Ranger. He has the most incredible loving temperment. Probably should have given credit to where I pulled the photos from.

The wolf is from Chapparal K9, would never buy from them but they had the color I wanted an example of.

The borzoi if from a Polish breeder,

http://www.akarenina.rii.pl/ENG/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=138

I have seen borzoi before who were tricolor, some with a lot of white like the dog pictured but the tan was always a very deep red color, never that light. I wonder if borzoi come in sable, some of the brindles I have seen look sable-esque, but I don't think it's quite the same thing.

 

[oc_spirit]

Just a bit of a correction, that second picture looks a lot more like a Husky than a wolf

This site is very comprehensive on the various coat colours of a Siberian Husky http://www.huskycolors.com/colors.html

 

[protodog]

That borzoi is "spotted sable on white." The website you posted shows another picture of the same dog, and in that picture, the sabling is easier to see. Here is a link to another spotted sable on white: http://www.rosehillwindhounds.com/BredBy/Chant/Chant.htm

According to the borzoi standard, "Any color, or combination of colors, is acceptable."

Here is a link to page that shows a couple of sable borzoi puppies: http://borzoicoburn1.homestead.com/happyhour.html
The page is old, and I happen to know that all of the puppies have been placed, so I'm not promoting someone's puppies for sale.

 

[EbonyDal]

I agree--none of the original 3 dogs posted is the same color. The Borzoi is what I would call a chocolate piebald, the wolf is wolf sable, and the akita I would call as an irish-spotted isabella in color. Just my guesses. That akita is gorgeous!!

 

[noludoru]

The Akita is black-nosed.... it can't be Isabella, if the Isabella you're referring to (like in Doberman Pinschers) is a dilute chocolate.

Is there another kind of Isabella??


Protodog....

In the link to the puppies you have posted, while they are most certainly Sable, they do not have the same markings as the Borzoi shown above.

Here are the pictures of Athiara I could get:


This one's pretty washed out and makes her look grey.


two more..

 

[noludoru]

Puppy pic:

Caspian is the same color she is, just with less white.

Now, I could be wrong here, but he looks one heck of a lot like this girl (JUST in coloring, minus the ticking)...

Sable: Black-tipped hairs; the background color can be gold to yellow, silver, gray, or tan. The darkness of the coat depends on how much of each hair is black versus the lighter color.

She doesn't look sable to me at all. She looks black and tan, like a foxhound.

 

[EbonyDal]

Not sure about the foxhound, but what I was referring to is a dachshund isabella, which can have a black nose and looks grey [or can]. Its another shade from these others =) not adept enough at posting pics yet to do so but maybe someone can google isabella dachshund and find and post one here?

 

[noludoru]

Yep, it's the color I was talking about.

Same color as this Doberman puppy:


Each of these dogs is bbdd in coloring... two copies of the "brown" recessive coloring (recessive to black) with two copies of the dilution gene which makes them the beautiful grey-tan color. What this means is the Akita shown cannot be Isabella, as it's (his? her?) eyerims and nose are black. If the skin there is black, the dog genetically is black. These Isabellas genetically are brown, and show reddish skin. That's a really crappy explanation, but if you google something along the lines of "dog color genetics bbdd" you'll get some better information.

 

[EbonyDal]

Ok, thanks, that was a good explanation - and thanks for the picture posts too, what pretty isabellas! I love this color. What a fun thread!

 

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Noludoru....I have a a pom with washed out red hair, dudley nose and eyes. Mom was pure black and dad was red with black nose and eye rims.....any thoughts??

 

[noludoru]

Mom and dad must have been Bb.

B - Black - Dominant
b - brown - recessive

If they each have one copy of B and one copy of b, they will look black. (Excluding any other modifying genes which may turn them who knows what colors!) However, they will also have the capability to have brown babies, depending upon their mates.

...|. B | b . | Parent one
B | BB | Bb |
b | Bb | bb |
P2

Those are the possible outcomes for each puppy. 25% BB, 50% Bb, 25% bb. Every pup with a B in it's genotype will look black, while every pup with a b in it's genotype have the possibility to produce brown puppies and puppies with the ability to produce brown puppies. All depends upon who they're mated to.

I'm do a crappy job explaining this.*sigh*

 

[Sapphire-Light]

I never saw a color in a shar pei like This puppy here http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57065

Is hard to see in the pics but is a fawn sable wit some black and grey hairs , but he has a half saddle and 2 black patches in the up of the tail and under the neck.

The mom is a fawn wit black muzzle, I never saw the dad of this puppy, but it was supposed to be a black and tan :/ A bad color in peis.

The puppy is only 1 month old, but he has a bad color too.