Incenced at this rubbish in the Times newspaper

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I cannot believe this rubbish, in the UK Times Online newspaper today!!!

This follows the story of the guy for was found to have killed something like 10,000 greyhounds with a bolt-gun once they had been 'finished with' at the racetracks... (that story was posted on Chaz)

What the f--- ? Am I supposed to feel guilty for feeding a Spanish greyhound (why not any dog?) instead of sending the protein off to starving humans elsewhere? When I was younger I spent time in Africa training local people in new skills - is that good undone because I now have and feed an animal!?!?!??! I've just come back from another poor country, no one was mad at me because I keep a pet dog (in fact it casued some genuine interest).

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Utter garbage. If I had wasted any cash on a physical copy of this paper I'd keep it in the bathroom for appropriate use.


Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2276048.html

A just and timely ending
By Tim Luckhurst

I HAVE a modicum of sympathy for David Smith, the builder’s merchant from Co Durham who has received death threats for killing greyhounds. The anthropomorphism required to put a human being in fear of his life for this non-crime is a bit extreme.
Greyhounds are bred to race. When they can no longer run fast they have reached the end of their useful existence. It is possible to keep them as pets, but the morality of such a decision is at least questionable. Retired they consume protein that could be more compassionately used to relieve famine in the developing world. It is a source of outrage to the citizens of poor nations: should canine appetites really take precedence over the survival of human children?

Of course many pet owners keep animals that have never served an economic purpose and never can. Childless couples regard such creatures as substitutes for offspring. Widows and widowers crave company: a loyal dog can provide it. Many families believe domestic animals make amiable and educational companions for children. Strict moral pragmatism would outlaw such practices. But that could never happen in Britain. Our affection for animals is too intense.

But to insist that Mr Smith has behaved disgracefully is a step too far. Distasteful as many people will find his actions, he killed those dogs legally by a method routinely used in abattoirs. There are legitimate questions as to whether he has declared the resultant income for tax purposes. To have failed in that duty would be genuinely antisocial. So would polluting water supplies by careless disposal. But to persecute a man for offering a necessary service at a price below the market average is unfair.

No wonder the National Greyhound Racing Club is incensed. It knows how often retired dogs are put down and its friends in veterinary medicine charge a lot more for canine euthanasia than Mr Smith. But for others to object to a practice that has been applied to working animals for as long as humans have used their labour is unreasonably sentimental.

Few such beasts relish enforced idleness. It can be compassionate to end their lives when they have ceased to be useful. It is a measure of how far most modern lives are distanced from the natural order that sensible people can imagine otherwise.
 

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There's TONS of food available in the USA, Britain etc. every day that gets wasted, or goes bad waiting on grocery shelves to be bought. Saying that dogs consume protein that could feed starving people is really kinda dumb. If he's so concerned about the starving people in underdeveloped countries, why doesn't he do something then? He could help out an organization that works to feed starving children.

This guy has probably never had a loving, close relationship with an animal before.
 
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they consume protein that could be more compassionately used to relieve famine in the developing world. It is a source of outrage to the citizens of poor nations: should canine appetites really take precedence over the survival of human children?

People have been taking this line for a long time. I remember reading that in both World Wars, there were strong movements to abolish pets such as dogs and cats. The argument then was that they were taking the food out of the mouths of 'our valiant soldiers.' Personally, I think it's morally questionable to advocate the elimination of entire species.

to insist that Mr Smith has behaved disgracefully is a step too far. Distasteful as many people will find his actions, he killed those dogs legally by a method routinely used in abattoirs. There are legitimate questions as to whether he has declared the resultant income for tax purposes. To have failed in that duty would be genuinely antisocial. So would polluting water supplies by careless disposal. But to persecute a man for offering a necessary service at a price below the market average is unfair.

That's one heck of a mix of socialistic and capitalistic rhetoric. On the one hand, he's concerned about the social order. On the other, he's fretting that a man be punished for pursuing the freedom of the market.

Few such beasts relish enforced idleness. It can be compassionate to end their lives when they have ceased to be useful. It is a measure of how far most modern lives are distanced from the natural order that sensible people can imagine otherwise.

This guy's all over the place. He's chastising modern people from being far from the natural order, but he's so removed from reality himself, so immersed in his philosophy of life and death, that he can say with a straight face that it's compassionate to kill the non-productive.
 

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Of course, all of this rhetoric about the starving children in Africa ignores the cold hard fact that sending food and money off to Africa to feed the starving often causes much more harm than good.
 
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Ridiculous!

Quite honestly that was completely ridiculous! What about--people in the US should drive SUV's anymore for their waste consumption and the saved money can be sent to starving people. Or that a 1 child limit should be placed on families so that their extra income can be used to support already existing children......

And to think I was going to go grocery shopping this afternoon--how very wasteful of me to spend money on prepackaged foods......
 

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This guy clearly has no concept of what is causing famine in Africa. It is not a lack of food but rather a lack of political stability and social order. The world sends millions of tons of food to Africa every year and much of it is used as a weapon by warlords and corrupt politicians.

The food that dogs eat has zero to do with anyone dying of malnutrition in Africa. You show me a starving child in Africa and I will show you a corrupt government and social chaos that interferes with the growing, receiving and distribution of food.

Once again it sounds like someone wants to avoid blaming people for what is happening. They want to look for some other explanation. Times like these it gets hard and harder for me to continue to call myself a liberal because of yahoos like him.

Dogs and our love of dogs is NOT causing or contributing to world hunger :mad: :rolleyes:
 

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Sounds like the writer has outlived his usefulness - anyone have a spare bolt-gun?
Just curious... has there been any sort of rebuttal/outcry in the paper regarding this article? Could it be that that was why the article was written?
 

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:( That just makes me sad.

How could you ever call an animal that demonstrates so much forgiveness, love, and understanding "useless"?
 
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Wow thats all I can say and pathetic. When are people going to learn that dogs are not items, they are living, breathing, animals with the ability to show emotion!

I am sorry your baby is consuming to much protein Mr. Smith I am gonna have to put it down!!
 

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