Im confused. What do i do?
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If you're happy with the recall, I can't judge it since I cant see it, so I'll take your word for it. how's the sit command?? give her one of those before she gets to you. At the very least it will slow her down, make her think and then she'll sit, then you reward those. Recall and a jump, no reward. I'd almost start over though with a long line and very short recalls at first. Adding another step always requires you to back up a bit in training. When she recalls and sits reliable maybe away from you, then you start requiring her to come into you before you reward, but that's a step or two ahead.
I agree with Whats, and not necessarily with Bubbatd (sorry, Grammy!). I would reward the behaviour you wish for, not the one you "give in" for (crouching down). I would make it totally clear in your training that she doesn't get the treat until she does the correct finish... which would be in the sitting position. Maybe in your next trials of teaching, when she comes to you and starts to jump, hold out your hand and say STOP... and have her sit before she receives the treat. Hopefully she will realize she's not getting anything out of jumping and must sit before she gets that treat! 
I may have misunderstood . I thought that this was out in the yard free. If it's during obedience , of course I'm wrong !! I'd getting Ollie used to going out with me to get the mail, .... I always have some treats with me and he's very good about coming when called. I crouch if he's coming at me like a ton of bricks ! Then stand up , make him sit and give him a treat.
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I let my dogs jump, especially Hondo. I like them at first to jump and be happy when they come to me. With Caza, he runs so fast to me, I have to put my hand out and say slow down or he will bust my kneecap, lol. There is nothing wrong with jumping, it is a natural behavior. Everything can be perfected later
While teaching Fozzie come, I always targeted. I hold my hand in the "come" position with a treat, so he came to my voice AND followed my body language. By having the reward at her level, where your pup is coming to you without needing to jump to seek treats/praise and immediately getting rewarded, you are preventing the jumping behavior and also rewarding what you want from her. Once she gets the come, you can progress to using no treats at all and just praising, and to different finishes (sit front, left side sit, etc).
You can have her finish in the front with a sit, if that makes it easier. I'd like to do rally with Fozzie, so I don't want him getting into the habit of coming and immediately sitting in front, which is why I just target him at his level when doing recalls.
You can have her finish in the front with a sit, if that makes it easier. I'd like to do rally with Fozzie, so I don't want him getting into the habit of coming and immediately sitting in front, which is why I just target him at his level when doing recalls.
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GSD - Jumping is o.k. with the people in your home that don't mind it. What about when you're outside though? Does your dog jump on strangers and children? If so, that could be a bad thing.
I'd rather have them sit or stand while they are wagging and being happy. Being jumped on by a 70 lb dog isn't a good thing when you've got groceries or are hurt. JMO though.
I'd rather have them sit or stand while they are wagging and being happy. Being jumped on by a 70 lb dog isn't a good thing when you've got groceries or are hurt. JMO though.
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Nope, my dogs dont jump in public, they dont even associate with people in public. My dogs are expected to sit there and ignore people. I'm referring to training. My dogs are always jumping and having a good time during training. People get so intense with training and make it miserable for the dog and the dogs look like sh!t when doing their obedience. I prefer a jumpy happy dog over a miserable forced dog any day. And I want my dogs to feel if they act agressive (not an agressive growl and bite thing, but just pushy) for the food they can manipulate me into giving it to them. Thats how I started Hondo in training. I made him drive me until I gsve him a treat, so now he is always right next to me looking for a treat. THEN I incorporated the actual commands into the scene.
Also my dogs know the "relax' command, where they know that they will not get a treat no matter how pushy they are, so they dont jump because it gets them nothing. And Caza is 100lbs, but he knows the difference from playtime and leave me alone time.
Also my dogs know the "relax' command, where they know that they will not get a treat no matter how pushy they are, so they dont jump because it gets them nothing. And Caza is 100lbs, but he knows the difference from playtime and leave me alone time.
Jumping may be natural for a dog, but it can still hurt if the dog is big and the person is small! I can't afford to allow my dogs to jump under any cercomstances. I have two small children and if my dogs were to jump, even without speed behind the jump, the children wouldn't stand a chance! In my experience ihartgonzo's tecniek is the fastest way to stop the jumping.
Because she is coming so reliably, you can stop rewarding her every time. Are you using treats? If not, I'd get some treats to put in your pocket. When you call her, keep your voice a little low key. Instead of calling her from a distance, where she gets to running, put her on a long line or even a regular leash. Go back to calling her from a very short distance. When she is close to you, catch it before her muscles start contracting to go into a jump and ask for a sit. Reward her immediately for sitting in front of you. Use some nice treats. So, in other words, she has the recall down pat, she's coming 10 out of 10 times....she no longer needs to be rewarded each and every time for coming. Now, you're adding a new part to the skill....sitting in front of you when she comes. Set her up so she can succeed by slowing her down by using a leash or long line, preventing her from running to you and jumping up, helping her to sit before she even thinks of jumping, and rewarding the sit. When she is sitting nicely 10 out of 10 times when you call her to come ON THE LEASH, then try her from a little further distance, when that is good, a little further still. Get that sit to be a habit. When it's really good, start eliminating the cue, "sit" so she'll automatically sit when she comes. Then you can work on a finish.
To properly train a dog, you need to set up practice situations for certain things. If you're just out and about and she's off leash, you can't control this jumping when you call her. So, if you want to call her, (for a while, till she learns) you will have to go to her and snap on the leash. Don't let her get reinforced for jumping up on you anymore, prevent it. It is her way of greeting. It is natural and she's being friendly. Lots of dog behaviors are natural. The ones we don't like, we train them to do something else instead as an alternative. Sitting nicely when she comes will get her the greeting, attention, yummy treat. Jumping up won't. Plus, it will be prevented so the fun of it won't be reinforcing to her.
To properly train a dog, you need to set up practice situations for certain things. If you're just out and about and she's off leash, you can't control this jumping when you call her. So, if you want to call her, (for a while, till she learns) you will have to go to her and snap on the leash. Don't let her get reinforced for jumping up on you anymore, prevent it. It is her way of greeting. It is natural and she's being friendly. Lots of dog behaviors are natural. The ones we don't like, we train them to do something else instead as an alternative. Sitting nicely when she comes will get her the greeting, attention, yummy treat. Jumping up won't. Plus, it will be prevented so the fun of it won't be reinforcing to her.