if pics for my garden book before afters, pretty little starts, several of mary with the sun lite in her eyes so you could see what a pretty reddish brown they are. .got inside and saw my roll of film sitting on top of the puter..darn it! I will try again tomorrow. The sun is behind the clouds now. I do have a roll being developed so i will come back and make this thread worth looking at..was i having a "senior" moment?