I stand behind my dogs...
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You got screwed. I wouldn't hold my breath about getting any money back if I were you either. Did they not send any pictures beforehand? Or tell you when he (or she) was born? I just don't see how they could say you were getting a female when you asked for a male for breeding purposes in the first place (unless the dog was just supposed to be "good for breeding" and not a specific gender). What breed is Buckshot anyways? I don't think I've seen any pics of him on here...that I've seen at least.
I think you absolutely deserve to be refunded some of your money, Buckshot. Unfortunately, from what I've heard about this guy, I doubt he will give you a cent.
I am not sure the deal with airlines, but I think it would be very easy for someone to say that a 4 week old Fila puppy is 8-12 weeks. I remember your first photo of Buckshot and he didn't look like a 4 week old puppy. I'm not sure what kind of paperwork airlines require, but I wouldn't put it past the breeder to have lied about that too. Perhaps he had two litters at once and swapped records - who knows.
If the dog was purchased from an ethical breeder, you most likely would be refunded part of the purchase price (as you did pay for a breeding quality male) but then again, if he was purchased from an ethical breeder you would not have recieved him sickly and at 4 weeks of age.
I think the best thing you could do at this point is neuter Buckshot (for health reasons more than anything else - undescended testicles are at a higher risk for cancer) and consider this a learning experience. I'm sorry you got decieved like that. My dog's breeder did her best to rip me off, too. (I'm sure she feels really good about herself knowing that she cheated an eager, ignorant 13 year old out of her money
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I am not sure the deal with airlines, but I think it would be very easy for someone to say that a 4 week old Fila puppy is 8-12 weeks. I remember your first photo of Buckshot and he didn't look like a 4 week old puppy. I'm not sure what kind of paperwork airlines require, but I wouldn't put it past the breeder to have lied about that too. Perhaps he had two litters at once and swapped records - who knows.
If the dog was purchased from an ethical breeder, you most likely would be refunded part of the purchase price (as you did pay for a breeding quality male) but then again, if he was purchased from an ethical breeder you would not have recieved him sickly and at 4 weeks of age.
I think the best thing you could do at this point is neuter Buckshot (for health reasons more than anything else - undescended testicles are at a higher risk for cancer) and consider this a learning experience. I'm sorry you got decieved like that. My dog's breeder did her best to rip me off, too. (I'm sure she feels really good about herself knowing that she cheated an eager, ignorant 13 year old out of her money
)wow.. my dogs costed 50$, were both healthy and 8 weeks old. I sure got lucky here, i went to a rescue tho, but since u wanted "breeding quality" for a dog u werent planing on breeding (?), i guess a breeder was the only option. next time, post the site of the breeder on here, and im sure alot of ppl will help.
Dont hold ur breath on getting ur money back tho. I still havent chased down the car repair guy who charged me too much to fix my car
IF ANY1 SEES JORGE, TELL HIM HE CAN RUN,BUT HE CANT HIDE! lol jk jk
i wanna see some pics of this pup tho
Dont hold ur breath on getting ur money back tho. I still havent chased down the car repair guy who charged me too much to fix my car
IF ANY1 SEES JORGE, TELL HIM HE CAN RUN,BUT HE CANT HIDE! lol jk jk
i wanna see some pics of this pup tho
That is such a terrible situation. =( Of course I sympathize for you, and "should've"s won't solve anything, but did you consider questioning the breeder as to why they sent you a 4 week-old puppy with illegitimate health certs? That HAS to be punishable, and you could've easily turned him in and recieved some money back if you fought it. My brother-in-law fought a bad breeder when he got his Mastiff puppy too young (the breeder claimed to pay less for shipping due to weight) & the puppy had severe kennel cough/URI which took months of treatment, with forged health certs. The breeder refunded everything but shipping charges and has a bad name with the airline, and also was investigated by AC.
That said, what I would predict is no money at all from that jerk. If they do offer you a puppy, don't take it! Seriously. If you want another dog, you'll need much much less than $600 (half of what you paid for your puppy) to adopt a dog from a shelter... one that you can actually MEET before adopting, and one whose age & health you know for certain. That's the best advice I can offer. We all live and learn, and heck yes I have been screwed over for car repairs, but now I know tons more about what to look out for and I won't ever be a "victim" to that again.
That said, what I would predict is no money at all from that jerk. If they do offer you a puppy, don't take it! Seriously. If you want another dog, you'll need much much less than $600 (half of what you paid for your puppy) to adopt a dog from a shelter... one that you can actually MEET before adopting, and one whose age & health you know for certain.
That's the best advice I can offer. We all live and learn, and heck yes I have been screwed over for car repairs, but now I know tons more about what to look out for and I won't ever be a "victim" to that again.HAVE YOU NEUTERED YOUR DOG YET? I read where two people had mentioned it but you haven't replied to it . For the record, my aunt got a GSD flown in from Pennsylvania from a supposed "reputable breeder". Well, he has a very poor temperament and he also had an un-descended testicle. My aunt fixed him at 8 months and they could not find the second testicle so they had to do an MRI to find it and it was up around his anal sacs ! I hope you have fixed your boy because if you don't he will definately get cancer at some point. It has actually been known for a male to get cancer with un-descended testicles at an early age. As far as his breeder, what a rotten person to ship a puppy at 4 weeks old Lucky that your boy arrived alive. Good luck and hope your boy is doing okay
. For the record, my aunt got a GSD flown in from Pennsylvania from a supposed "reputable breeder". Well, he has a very poor temperament and he also had an un-descended testicle. My aunt fixed him at 8 months and they could not find the second testicle so they had to do an MRI to find it and it was up around his anal sacs ! I hope you have fixed your boy because if you don't he will definately get cancer at some point. It has actually been known for a male to get cancer with un-descended testicles at an early age. As far as his breeder, what a rotten person to ship a puppy at 4 weeks old Lucky that your boy arrived alive. Good luck and hope your boy is doing okay 
I would try to fight it. I would also try and enlist the help of other Fila breeders to get 'your' breeder blacklisted and possibly shut down. Buckshot is a great dog obviously, but you may have gotten really lucky. Someone else may not be, and with certain people eyeing the Fila as next in line for BSL, I'd like to see everything stay on the straight and narrow as possible.
Realistically the most you would likely be able to get would be the difference in price of a Pet Pup to a Show Pup.I am going through somewhat of a similar situation.Bought a Puppy on a co own.Puppy had Parvo,puppy had to be put down.Breeder is a piece of work and wont give money for vet costs or a replacement puppy.
I think you guys give up too easily... Contact them, tell them you will start a lawsuit if they don't give you some money back, and if nothing is done contact the better business bureau and tell them about it... at least maybe it will prevent more people from being screwed.
I think the main problem will be that you took so long to do something about it... you should have contacted them right when you got the pup.
I think the main problem will be that you took so long to do something about it... you should have contacted them right when you got the pup.
I just read some of the reply's that you got at the start of this thread.....ouch! It is your responsibility to research, sounds like you did your best. It is absolutely horriblie what was done to you and this pup....not your fault!! I'd try to do something....at the very least drag the breeders name so far in the mud that it's illegible!! Do they have a website...can we see??
Do they have a website...can we see??
Please dont give up, I have been thinking of a similar situation which I have been going through. I bought a car a few months ago and the car had 1,000 dollars in parking tickets so it couldnt be transferred to my name until they were paid. The lady who sold me the car did not want to pay the tickets or give me my money back so we took her to court. They said that they couldnt force her to pay, but if she agreed that we could get the payment. We have started to receive payments on the car and when it is payed in full she will have her car back.
So maybe you can still do something about it. Get the breeder to pay your vet bills and the difference between a sick pet quality pup and a healthy show quality one. Good luck with this
So maybe you can still do something about it. Get the breeder to pay your vet bills and the difference between a sick pet quality pup and a healthy show quality one. Good luck with this
Buckshot, nobody deserves to be ripped off.
Depending on what's in your contract, I'd definitely pursue getting some money back, if there's any chance at all that it will come through.
I think the limit for small claims court in CO is $7,500 - that's more than enough to cover your dispute. It just depends on how solid of a case you can present, but from what you mentioned, if the agreement was on a female puppy and you got a male (not to mention the retained testicle thing), maybe there's hope.
Depending on what's in your contract, I'd definitely pursue getting some money back, if there's any chance at all that it will come through.
I think the limit for small claims court in CO is $7,500 - that's more than enough to cover your dispute. It just depends on how solid of a case you can present, but from what you mentioned, if the agreement was on a female puppy and you got a male (not to mention the retained testicle thing), maybe there's hope.
I TOTALLY agree. the only problem I see is that you really should have complained immediately, but I wouldn't give up without a battle. I'd ask politely first...via registered letter (keep copy). I may even send a follow-up letter worded a bit more strongly. if they ignored me, I'd start threats galore. if they practice as a breeder, some states require you to have a kennel license....I'd turn them in if that's an option there. I'd complain to the better business bureau (they are acting as a business), the attorney general, if nothing else it would hound them with paperwork. I'd threaten legal action (it would be great if you know an attorney that could send a letter)....I'd be a royal B!tch solely because they deserve it. sure maybe it wouldn't get a refund, but they should NOT be allowed to operate like that. and instead of bashing, if more people put energy into making poor breeder's lives miserable maybe we could start to change things. I'd turn them into the humane society for cruelty....ANYTHING I could think of. now I want to smack them silly...LOL OH..and you could ask them if they've paid taxes on their profits...perhaps a little note to the IRS. get all your vet papers in order, and GO for it.
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