I need help...

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  1. PitBullLove

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    I have been praying and praying about this, and debating asking Chaz for help - and finally decided to post. I lost my job - and I have a ton of rescue animals right now. 3 bearded dragons, 2 sugar gliders, 4 turtles, a salamander, 2 toads, 1 leopard gecko, 1 hamster, and 40+ rats. Your first question: where did they all come from? Way too many stories to tell. I have an overabundance of rats right now because a really disgusting, run down pet store a friend of mine worked at knew I was a rat lover and brought some very sick ratties to me and asked if I could help them.
    Of course, I did. Had to sign up for CareCredit in my parent's name because I couldn't get one in my own - and $500 later everyone is happy and healthy, with an unlimited supply of respiratory medication since almost all of them had Mycoplasma infections. I absolutely cannot put any more debt on that card, as I am already paying $75 a month on it - no idea how I am going to make the next payment, anyhow. Some of the ratties were mamas to be, which explains the story of some. About a month ago she contacted me again and asked me to rush to her house, where she had taken a litter of 15 (what was left of them) that the males in the tank had started eating. Missing ears, tails, patches of skin. I bottle fed them and nursed them back to health, healed their wounds and when they were healthy enough put them in with a foster mama (if I had put them in there at first she may have killed them because they were in such bad shape). I contacted a rat rescue in my area and she helped me by taking quite a few rattie friends, but recently her house flooded and continues to flood and she cannot help me with any more.

    Anyway...many of the females have developed mammary tumors (notorious in rats), and some of the males are genetically disposed to being extremely aggressive, something only a neuter will fix, and one of the females has developed a nasty lung problem that nebulizing and antibiotics have had no effect on, so she needs to go in to get checked out. Like I said, I lost my job, and the rescues in the area have done all they can do to help me. I have a vet appointment on Tuesday with an amazing vet that has agreed to give me an incredible deal on the neuters and spays, the cost of the treatment for the rat with the lung issue obviously cannot be determined until she gets her hands on her. I m struggling to afford caring for these guys after losing my job, and I can't bring myself to cancel the appointment because I just keep praying help will come. I don't know what kind of reactions I am going to get, and I am really ashamed to be asking for financial help, but I don't know what else to do...I am wondering if anybody is willing to make donations to my Pay Pal account to help pay for this vet appointment on Tuesday, and for my next bulk order of food. :(

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    And Miracle the beardie...who came to me with a broken jaw, all 4 legs broken, broken tail, and a broken pelvis...still working on getting him walking with daily swimming exercises, although the vet is doubtfull...
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  2. Red Chrome

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    It looks and sounds like the best thing for everyone involved is for you to rehome some animals. That is an awful lot of cages. I can't imagine the kinda care required to take care of that many animals.

    Where in WA are you? Job markets are still decent in most of WA from what I see.
     
  3. PitBullLove

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    They are all up for adoption. Not many people want to adopt rats. I am in western WA.
     
  4. StephyMei1112

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    I second RC's sentiments.

    I'm not in any position whatever to help out in terms of rehoming/donations - very sorry. But I do send my best wishes and hope for the best of luck for you and all those animals <3.

    Erm...I may know of a reptilian enthusiast that perhaps could help out with taking in a turtle and rat or two or at least donate $100 or so... If I can get in touch with her I'll let you know and you can take it from there.
     
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    I agree, it sounds like rehoming some of them is the best option. I'd be willing to bet the Chazzers in your area may be able to help with that, or at least give you ideas on where to start.

    You have more animals than my entire department at the zoo (we have mostly pocket pets and herps). It takes me 3-4 hours to care for all of them, so I can imagine you put a HUGE amount of time and effort into caring for all these guys.

    (At first I thought you said you had 4 tuataras (instead of turtles) and was wondering where in the world you found them at lol.)


    ETA: You may consider contact zoos in your area. If they have an education department, most of those make fantastic education animals. They may not be able to take all the rats, but they may be willing to take a couple and/or some of the herps or a sugar glider or two. They may not be able to if their individual policies prohibit it, but many zoos will take on certain animals if they have a use for them. If they are well-socialized or at least hand-tame, all the better for an education department (that said, we do have one very aggressive snake in our department, and several shy animals).
     
  6. ~Tucker&Me~

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    Too bad you aren't closer, because I have been itching to get a bearded dragon for a long time. I don't suppose you plan on travelling this way anytime soon?

    ETA: I can't see Miracle's photo :(
     
  7. PitBullLove

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    Thanks so much for your kind words, everyone.

    That would be amazing. Thank you so much.

    Today I started crying because it's gets so overwhelming sometimes - especially when you find something wrong and you know another extremely expensive exotic vet appt. is coming next. I love the animals, and I wouldn't trade them or their wellbeing for the world - it just gets hard since it's only me and I go to school full time. So between school, work (not anymore), and all of the animals, it gets a little tough sometimes.

    That's a great idea! I don't think the zoos around here would have any interest in the rats though and that's what I need help with at the moment. Although maybe that could be an option for the turtles. I'm a little too attached to the beardies though LOL, and have no issues affording their care because I have an ample supply of Powersun UV bulbs and ceramic heat bulbs thanks to my Sulcata Tortoise, and the pet store ladies here give me free crickets and worms :p And I always have lettuce, kale, squash, etc. on hand because the Sulcata is technically my dad's, so he gives me money to buy veggies for him, and there's plenty to go around of course. As far as the sugar gliders go...they are really mean LOL...both bite and crab anytime a finger goes near them, they were intended to be pets for children, who mishandled them when they did handle them...which was very little... and extremely emaciated, lack of proper nutrition and having hypoglycemic seizures...I've been bitten by the two sugar gliders WAY more than I've been bitten by rats in my life time, which is a little nuts...

    How come you haven't got one?! They are so cool...sooo different than any other reptile because they are so personable. People don't understand until they have one - they are just awesome. Anyway, I wouldn't be able to come up your way until summer time, because I have school and no money what so ever right now...but if you're still looking for a beardie then, let me know and I'll grab my passport and head up there. :)
    Here's some beardie pictures to worsen your itch.
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    I fixed it you should be able to see them now! :)
     
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    Here's some pictures just for fun...

    My kitchen counter at dinner time...
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    Since I lost my job I have been super nocturnal, and the rats love it since they get to share snacks at night
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    Snuggled into my shorts
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    A little hedgie that was very angry at the world and would only reveal his face if you breathed warm air in his face
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  10. Saeleofu

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    Beardies are very cool lizards! They require more special equipment than what I'm looking for in a herp right now (I'm working on acquiring a crested gecko), but they're beyond cool. We have two in my department and they're just so calm, love to be handled, and are just neat little lizards. We had one in at the clinic several months ago and he needed xrays - we just sat him on the xray table and he stayed put, better than any dog or cat! :lol-sign:

    I still can't see the Miracle pics, though :(
     
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    Have you e-mailed Romy to see if she knows anyone who can help? :)
     
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    Perhaps contact some local schools or children's museums as well, to see if they'd like to take on any rescue animals? You've got a lot on your plate, I hope some of them find homes soon
     
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    Listen, I hate to have to be the voice of reason here. I know I'm going to **** some people off with this, but you have 40+ cancerous aggressive rats from the sounds of it rats with lots of inbreeding as well. I absolutely adore rats and have kept them on several occasions, but it doesn't sound like there is much you can do for them here. Maybe its time to find someone that keeps herps and sell/ give them to said person.
     
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    I don't think this is necessarily a horrid and cruel suggestion...but it sounds like the OP is probably quite bonded to a lot of these rats for one thing, and for another: I wouldn't be feeding such potentially ill rats to my reptiles. If they need such a vet care, and some could have things such as infections/viruses/etc...I wouldn't give them to my snakes. I don't know the actual risk, but I wouldn't want to chance it.
     
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    Later today I'll take a look at where I am sitting money-wise and if I can help out. I'll have to clear out my inbox (which I will do later tonight) but you could send me the link to your paypal once I have.

    As hard as it is, you may need to decide which animals will really benefit from treatment and which should receive palliative care and a peaceful passing when the time comes. I know it's something I struggle with (deciding to treat or let go) but with a large number of animals with no place to go, you will probably have to make some tough decisions. In my opinion, it is better to care for less animals but provide a higher quality of care than more animals but mediocre or less care. I would definitely stop taking in more animals (honestly, if the animal is sick it's not wrong to put them down, you can only do so much with the resources you have). However, as others have mentioned, I would definitely recommend checking out rescue and exhausting all the other resources first. Rats will be difficult, but I imagine the other species may be easier to get help for.

    Aww beardie photos! I am desperate for one, have been for a while but I want to go the rescue/rehome route and I just haven't really started looking yet. If one fell into my lap I probably wouldn't say no though :p I babysat one for two weeks a few years back and since then I have been tentatively planning on getting my own. Someday!
     
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    She didn't say the rats were aggressive, did she? :confused:

    And yeah, sick rats do not make good reptile food... She or the herp owner would also have to kill them first, as live rats are not recommended as snake food. I highly doubt that is something she feels ok doing since she has obviously become attached to them.
     
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    Coming from someone who had rats for years, are you sure you should pursue treatment for some of these guys and not opt for euthanasia instead?

    I know it sounds harsh but if the girls have mammary tumors, the males are aggressive, and they all have crappy respiratory systems, there's only so much you can do. Sure a spay can *maybe* lessen the chance of more tumors developing, but it's not fool proof. A neuter *can* help with aggression issues, but not always. If they've all had Myco they're going to be susceptible to other respiratory infections, etc. and a surgery might put them over the edge.

    Added into that you don't have a job, so what happens if you do all of these surgeries and there are complications.. how will you pay for that?
     
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    She said some were extremely aggressive. Or I'm losing my mind.
     
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    I'm going to be that bitch, but that bear die should be put out of its misery. Beardies are very hard to nurse back to health when they even just get sick, let alone all it has been through. Add onto that that you have like 45 other (sick) animals, plus (I'm assuming) the dogs, there's likely also not enough time for you to be doing all neccessary if it has a chance.

    You can't save them all. Contact rescues. Let the ones that are way too sick go, as somebody else mentioned.

    I suggest you offer to give somebody your vet info if they want to make a donation, may get more donations if they know where its going and can talk to the vet. Or your address if they want to pay for food.

    I can't help, as my rescue gets my finances as I can (plus, I have had constant fosters almost) but those may help you get more.
     

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