I Need Help with our Barker :)

Brattina88

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I need help with my parents little problem child, Goldie. ;) mainly her barking

She is a 3-4 year old rescue Cocker (possible mix with something smaller, cav or sometimes I accuse her of being part Chi :p), I've been helping them work through some of her issues with a lot of success with patience, consistency, and lots of positive reinforcement (she responds really well to clicker training).
This was a dog who hated being groomed, or handled in that manner, and had to be muzzled for grooming and especially nails... but now she can be groomed fully (and nails!) with no stress, and no muzzle :banana:

She's pretty high strung, so when I moved back in I upped her exersize (throwing balls in the backyard, running, romping with the other dogs wasn't enough for me. She also gets walked with me and Maddie - typically a 1/2 mile on the sidewalks and running around the park dragging her leash (not reliable off)daily - unless the weather is really really bad)
She knows sit, stay, come (wouldn't trust her offleash in an unfenced area, though - she was previously a stray, door darter and runner -- now is NOT a door darter whatsoever) leave it, and "watch me." Her "leave it" and "watch me", however, doesn't work while she's running her mouth :eek: lol

I would classify her barking as alert barking, but this is not my area of expertise. She barks if she hears any kind of car door slamming, keys jingling, any noise outside of the house, if someone drops something that "thunks" upstairs, or any sort of knocking-type sound. It's a VERY loud, VERY high pitched (for her size or breed), YAP YAP YAP YAP YAP that goes on and on and on

Her pervious management for barking is yelling no, stop, quiet, shut up, that's enough, OMGIMGONNAKILLYOU :rofl1: Which obviosly doesn't work. And, yes, I'm guilty of this too :eek:

I have taught her the "quiet" command with the clicker, I have not been able to teach her how to speak -- we've been working on this for moooonths. I can get her to bark by knocking on something myself, and when I say "quiet" she'll stop, and I'll reward her for stopping. She's been getting bored with this and sometimes doesn't bark when I knock. :) Which is good, to me :eek:

But I think I must've messed up somewhere with "quiet" because unless I am standing in front of her with the hand signal she doesn't understand (or comply). So, for example, we're all sitting on the couch watching TV. She hears something (that we can't) she charges off the couch barking and charging the window or door. And she will not stop until I get off the couch, body block her from the window and command "quiet."

I've also been carrying treats with me, when I come home and walk in the door and she does NOT bark, I say "good quiet, good quiet" and give her a treat, praise and pets. But its hit or miss she still barks at me sometimes (NONE of the other dogs bark when anyone in the family comes home - I personally prefer this!), when she barks it goes on and on and on on, its like she doesn't have any sense of "self control" or self regulating... I don't know what the word is :rofl1:

I've tried leashing her to me, but that doesn't stop the charging(tugging at the leash) and barking. I've been working on "watch me" with the clicker outside and with more and more distractions, and higher value treats but I still can't get her to watch me while charging and barking.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated -- and I will let you guys know how she's doing and progressing, I will work with her as much(often) as I can. I've been sick, and her barking has made me feel sicker on somedays, its that bad. No joke. A lot of the time its as if she's barking at nothing because most of the time we don't hear it. We have amazing neighbors who love animals and have never complained -- but the one neighbor mentioned in passing about Goldie's barking and so the family has discussed a no-bark collar because we are getting desperate.

TIA
 
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I have owned many dogs and trained a lot more. Barking is a stubborn issue. Some dogs are easily trained and others are impossible with commands alone. On top of that different dogs bark for different reasons, so you have to figure that out too before deciding on an approach. I have three dogs right now and their barking feeds of the dominant dog's barking. I am using a bark collar and I highly recommend it.
It is not harsh or cruel. I hate the collars that spray in the dogs face. I think that is cruel. The collar I like is electronic and gives a mild shock. It really does work well and does not "hurt" your dog no matter how small. Just check it out. This is the one I recommend. http://www.barkcollarsite.com
 

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Personally, I don't see how spraying in the face is cruel and shocking is not :confused: :eek:

Anyway, I'm hoping for some training tips to TEACH ;) and not just punish
 

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For Tucker I started allowing him to bark a few times, then say "Tucker enough" and then as soon as he barks again I get up and remove him from the room (I'll slip lead him and take him into the back hallway or bathroom). After 10 seconds I'll take him back out into whatever room he wants to be in. Usually that's enough for him to stop or stop after the next time I say "enough". Occasionally he'll need a time out in the bathroom by himself (only once so far because my parents were up stairs talking and he decided their were strangers up there). Those work for him because he hates being away from us. I allow him to whine and do his lower level bark (it's like a little ruff ruff under his breath) because I feel bad that I'm not allowing him to react to something that is scaring/concerning him. To me it's like punishing someone for gasping or crying, so I don't completely stop all noise, just the really annoying stuff. If he stays quiet I'll toss him treats.

It works for him, maybe it'd work for you.
 

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Thanks Maxy! I'm definitely willing to try it! I'm willing to try anything at this point! :)
Thank you for your post!
 

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