I know there's been a lot of debating around here but:

[Debi]

I've never been checked for a weapon before entering the mall or a movie theater...or restaurants, or bus stations, etc. don't go feeling too safe.

 

[blue]

her SCHIP provides coverage for 6 million children. I know a lot of people are here are against Medicaid and all that jazz, but i honestly don't get it.

16% of the population doesn't have health insurance. Hilary's plan is to adjust the cost of health insurance depending on how much you make. Insurance companies can't drop you as easily, and can't deny you just because of a medical problem.

My mother used the same auto insurance for...let's see....32 years. She paid every single bill on time, and NEVER got into a car accident.

She paid a bill a couple of hours late, and they dropped her. Eventually she got them to change their minds about dropping her, but they raised it i think 31%? IMO that should be illegal.

The SCHIP is not her plan, she isnt even a sponsor for the bill. Her plan is universal tax payer funded health care. More government regulation in health insurace is not the answer either. There is a state that mandates that if a company prvides HI for its employees it must include in vitro fertilisation. Why does a male employee need to be covered for in vitro fertilisation? Let companies and employees choose what they are covered for and that will control the cost, not states or feds setting manditory coverages for what the company provides.

I was late paying my car insurance and Allstate dropped me, my fault not theirs. When they renewed my policy it was double, from around $550 to over $1100 for 6 months, so I dropped them and switched companies saving over $600. Capitalism is a good thing.

quite honestly, i don't know how. But, i know that any president in US history who i would say benefitted this country, has created jobs. They don't have to be government jobs. In my opinion it's ridiculous beyond all belief anyone in the top 5 financial percent of this country doesn't pay as much in taxes? Shouldn't they pay more?!? Congrats to them for being sucessful and making a good living, but no one needs as much money as H. Lee Scott (CEO of Wal Mart). Especially not when mothers of four kids are working for 6$ an hour in his stores.

The only time a president does anything to create jobs is when they cut taxes. The top 5% dont pay as much in taxes because much of what they have is not income, what they are worth is not the same as income. Look into the fair tax plan, something not favored by Clinton.

She also wants to better the education system, which will A) Create more jobs, and B) allow students to get better jobs in the future.

Does she support vouchers and school choice, or just more business as usual?

again, i don't know why, but they do. It's just a fact. Maybe because she's a strong, independant, highly intelligent woman who knows how to speak to people? When she was first lady, she met a lot of people around the world, and 90% of foreign leaders who've met her, respect her.

She's promoted peace in Northern Ireland, Israel, and Palestine.

Respect her for what? What has she actually done? Do you have more to add other than whats on her website? Her peace promotion in Israel hasnt been very succesfull so far.

what are you refering to when you say we were attacked under her husband?

The 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.

...she does want to put Iraq in control. So many people think she just wants to end the war, but that's definately not true. She wants to get the U.N. much more involved than they are. She wants to help develop peace between the different sects in Iraq. She wants to be sure a civil war will not occur BEFORE we leave.

She wants America and other U.N. countries to provide funding in Iraq, to prevent starvation and other similar problems in Iraq.

She doesnt have a plan to end the war. She has a plan to draft a plan to end the war if she is elected. The Iraqis are allready regaining controll of their country, getting the UN involved will only stall the progress being made. The inaction of the UN is the reason she voted to go the course we did in going to war.

9/11 may have been the best thing to happen to Guiliani, but definately not for the right reasons. If he got into office and we were attacked or their was any kind of crisis, we'd be pretty screwed.

Why would we be screwwed?

That picture MelissaCato posted honestly scares me. Not to say that her son will grow up to shoot people, but in areas where hunting is prominent and more guns are available, gun violence is higher. In most, almost all, school shooting that have occured, THE PARENTS have bought their child a gun. Half those kids had previously been in some sort of therapy or psychiatric help. Having a gun is okay. Giving a suicidal or homicidal kid a gun, isn't.

Hilary doesn't particularly want to change any of the gun laws we have.
She just doesn't want to make it any easier to get guns, or bring them on airplanes (Ron Paul).

I can take my firearm into most businesses and most public buildings, I dont even need a permit to carry concealed. If I do get my concealed carry permit, I dont even have to have a background check when buying a firearm. Does that scare you? Why should I be prohibited from carrying on an airplane? Do you have the stats to back your claim that gun violence is higher in areas where hunting is prominant? Giving a sucidal or homicidal ADULT a firearm isnt okay.

Honestly, if Ron Paul won i think i'd move out of country. I know people say that all the time during the election, but i am 100% serious. Moving out-of-country is a possibilty for me in the future anyway, but Ron Paul would definately be the deciding factor.

And, i'd DRIVE. Hell if i'm gonna get on a plane where guns are allowed. I feel safe going into the mall, into school, into an airport, into a movie theater, because i know guns aren't allowed in places like that.

If Ron Paul is elected Im sure some of us will raise the cash to pay for your gas out of the country.

 

[MelissaCato]

Billary says when she's Pres "again" ????? WTF
Listen to her at the end of this news show on illegal imms a drivers lic .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbm3AcRsDIs

 

[Mindy Miller]

ahhhhh, i missed you guys. but i'm not arguing politics this time around

 

[bubbatd]

Sure will be an interesting year !! I just don't want to see Hill and Bill in " our " White house !

 

[GlassOnion]

But, i know that any president in US history who i would say benefitted this country, has created jobs.

This may be true. I think Reagen did this, with his act where he employed a ton of young men to create parks, roads, and other improvements. Problem is we already have parks, roads, and the other improvements so we can't really do that again. It'd be a waste of time and money. You can't just 'create' jobs. The only way to create jobs will be to improve the economy so that there is a boom and more people want to open more businesses, thus creating new jobs. And most any economical change takes at least 8 years to see the effects of so, yah. The person who's next in office gets all the credit for what their predecessor did.

Only other way to create new jobs is in research and open up new fields of technology and thus new businesses. Problem is with more research into technology the more we can automate things and the less jobs that are available. Don't get me wrong, I in no way oppose more research, I'm just saying.

 

[blue]

Didnt the New Deal create jobs?

 

[Claybuster]

Sure will be an interesting year !! I just don't want to see Hill and Bill in " our " White house !

Me neither, heard they near ransacked the place last time they left.

 

[bubbatd]

We the people are paying them way too much now and will until they both die ,

 

[blue]

ahhhhh, i missed you guys. but i'm not arguing politics this time around

At least think about the issues that have been brought up about Hillary.

 

[JAMLEVY]

I like Bill Richardson though I don't think he has much of a chance (VP maybe?). Out of the frontrunners I'm leaning towards Obama

 

[Mindy Miller]

At least think about the issues that have been brought up about Hillary.

i've already thought about hilary. i'm not a fan. nobody's mentioned my main man, kucinich! That oughtta get you guys goin'

 

[blue]

I'll be voting for Hil. I also like Joe Biden a lot.

i've already thought about hilary. i'm not a fan. nobody's mentioned my main man, kucinich! That oughtta get you guys goin'

What happenned to Biden? What is it about kucinich that grabs you?

 

[Mindy Miller]

darn you, blue....

right now i love him because he introduced articles of impeachment against cheney for taking the u.s. into iraq under false pretenses. I DON'T WANNA DEBATE IRAQ. i just think he's ballsy.

he's pro choice. he's pro gay marriage-and not afraid to admit it. he's pro human rights.

i'm not sure yet that i actually support him.

i do differ with him on some big stuff. i'm not for universal healthcare, for one thing. innovation comes from capitalism and if you give healthcare to the government, there is no innovation. I am for healthcare reform. I'm just not sure what that means.

 

[blue]

What does pro human rights mean?

 

[Mindy Miller]

After I submitted that, I asked myself the same question. I think everyone is pro human rights. That was a dumb thing to type. Now I can't go back and delete it

 

[LuvinBullies]

MORE laws is not the answer to ANYthing.

THANK YOU!!!!!!

There is an essay/theory called "The Iron Law of Prohibition" which concludes that the more laws/legislation are imposed upon a society, the more crime will result, and the long term effects (slippery slope) can be disasterous. Not to mention the fact that once something becomes banned or overregulated it becomes a hot commodity and criminals will go to even further extremes to get their job done.

There is no conclusive benefit to banning anything: "Pit Bulls", Alcohol, guns, butterknives...

The reason is because you cannot ban everything that can be considered dangerous. Once you get into umbrella bans and super strict policies you start down a slope that never ends. There is a point where people must just realize we are not a bunch of animals who need constant regulation via legislation. Our system proves time and time again it can't handle the volume anyway. Why create more laws which obviously cannot be properly enforced? Personally I feel if a bunch of dopeheads want to be dopeheads let them. Don't clog up the system and release a child molester early to make room in prison for dopeheads. Also, I would feel MUCH more comfortable next to an armed teacher in a classroom with a permit to carry a weapon than I would next to some wiry bad attitude kid armed with a # 2 pencil who was raised only on video games and doomsayer websites.

Here's all I know about the election...

Hillary is no dice for me. She says a lot of powerful crowd pleasing things with flare, but her concrete stance on a lot of things eludes me. She used to be pro-Iraq but flopped and that's fine...but she should just admit things changed for her or whatever. She would make a great traveling motivational speaker for high schools and colleges, and she would have a knack for foreign outreach work as well...but she's no US President in my humble opinion.

Rudy hell no. He's a ban-happy kind of guy and I see him fashioning laws to bend around his own agendas. I see a possible scandal or four in his would-be cabinet as well. On a personal note, he's very anti-pitbull and proBSL (even on a federal level). Like I said...ban happy scary scary.

Obama I have no real education about his campaign so I cannot make a real educated stance about him. I heard on a news show though where he said something about taking our military heat out of Iraq and going into Afghanistan. To me that sounds like screwing up a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, but instead of fixing it or cleaning it up just whippin out some more bread and screwing it up again on someone else's cutting board.

Edwards scares me because one of his points is he wants to substantially raise minimum wage across the board and he actually thinks that will solve something. Remedial economics proves this won't work. It would be great if we walked down to our mailbox and found a check for a million bucks in it-until we found out everyone else in the U.S. also got that same check for a million bucks.

I'm really not qualified to say much of anything else about other contenders because I haven't followed them too closely yet. I'm at a crossroads right now with the whole thing and I might just stay here.

JMO on everything...no offense to anyone who has a strong position for their personal choice.

 

[GlassOnion]

I am for healthcare reform. I'm just not sure what that means.

No offense but how can you be for something if you don't know what you're supporting? Well I know the answer to that, actually. Guess the better question would be: why support something that you don't know what it entails?

 

[MelissaCato]

Dr. Ron Pauls words on Health Care Reform

HR 3075 provides truly comprehensive health care reform by allowing families to claim a tax credit for the rising cost of health insurance premiums. With many families now spending close to $1000 or even more for their monthly premiums, they need real tax relief – including a dollar-for-dollar credit for every cent they spend on health care premiums – to make medical care more affordable.

HR 3076 is specifically designed to address the medical malpractice crisis that threatens to drive thousands of American doctors – especially obstetricians – out of business. The bill provides a dollar-for-dollar tax credit that permits consumers to purchase "negative outcomes" insurance prior to undergoing surgery or other serious medical treatments. Negative outcomes insurance is a novel approach that guarantees those harmed receive fair compensation, while reducing the burden of costly malpractice litigation on the health care system. Patients receive this insurance payout without having to endure lengthy lawsuits, and without having to give away a large portion of their award to a trial lawyer. This also drastically reduces the costs imposed on physicians and hospitals by malpractice litigation. Under HR 3076, individuals can purchase negative outcomes insurance at essentially no cost.

HR 3077 makes it more affordable for parents to provide health care for their children. It creates a $500 per child tax credit for medical expenses and prescription drugs that are not reimbursed by insurance. It also creates a $3,000 tax credit for dependent children with terminal illnesses, cancer, or disabilities. Parents who are struggling to pay for their children's medical care, especially when those children have serious health problems or special needs, need every extra dollar.

HR 3078 is commonsense, compassionate legislation for those suffering from cancer or other terminal illnesses. The sad reality is that many patients battling serious illnesses will never collect Social Security benefits – yet they continue to pay into the Social Security system. When facing a medical crisis, those patients need every extra dollar to pay for medical care, travel, and family matters. HR 3078 waives the employee portion of Social Security payroll taxes (or self-employment taxes) for individuals with documented serious illnesses or cancer. It also suspends Social Security taxes for primary caregivers with a sick spouse or child. There is no justification or excuse for collecting Social Security taxes from sick individuals who literally are fighting for their lives.

August 23, 2006

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.

You can read more here ... http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul339.html

 

[Mindy Miller]

What I mean is this. The system is broken, and it needs to be fixed and I don't know what the answer is, but I know that universal government sponsored health insurance is NOT.

That's interesting, Melissa. Will read more...