HER being my oldest daughter. I get a call from her at about 11:00 she is being arrested for some warrants on traffic violations. Now I know she is responsible for those and it is her own fault, but please there are rapist and robbers etc out there walking around and they have to do this. My 2 grandkids were in the car with her, I had to go to where she was so they wouldnt impound her car and now I am waiting to find out what her bail is so I can go bail her out, so much for a good night sleep. My poor grandson was crying and so scared, they handcuffed her right there in front of him and put her in their car and let those 2 babies sit in her car for almost 30 min before I got there, car turned off and it is 32 degrees outside. Man I am pissed, but I am also very upset with her, if it wasnt for my babies I would let her sit in jail and take care of it, but I have my babies to worry about.
I just want to strangle her
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That's awful! I mean just awful! Okay so she's responsible for the traffic violations. Should she be arrested for them? I don't know, I guess so but to not consider the children in this was just insane! My husband is a cop and normally I'm VERY much on their side but I'm thinking that this guy that arrested her couldn't have been following procedure... Allow two children to sit in a car for 30 minutes in freezing weather? Horrible! I'm glad they have a good grandma!
OK if I were LEO- I would have had the car towed to the station, let the mother and kids ride back with me to the station, the mother gets put in holding cell, while the kids can sit with me and enjoy some warm cocoa while they wait for grandmother.
If it were me being the grandmother, I would probably not get too worried as they often have seperate male and female holding cells, she can ride it out with the other girls, I wouldnt bail her out, she's a grown woman, she can take care of herself, while I would take the kids in with me until the mother got things straightened out. This would just be a hard lesson to be learned.
-Dix
If it were me being the grandmother, I would probably not get too worried as they often have seperate male and female holding cells, she can ride it out with the other girls, I wouldnt bail her out, she's a grown woman, she can take care of herself, while I would take the kids in with me until the mother got things straightened out. This would just be a hard lesson to be learned.
-Dix
Welcome to the dark day of state tyranny. We the people have chosen to allow the government to treat us like cattle. We allow them to have no fear of us. We still vote for more ways for them to "protect" us. We throw money at these entities. We are in the middle of a massive witch hunt to punish all wrong doers, not unlike the crusades of centuries ago or Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany we are on that same path. It just suprizes the hell out of us when we are the one with the finger being pointed at us. Traffic violations that arent intended to cause victimization of anyone or smoking a stupid plant or making an error on firearm ownership papaerwork ....There is no end to the harmless things that WE the public are willing to punish for.
Do you know why she has tickets or why she didn't go to the court date to appeal them? That cop was a freakin jerk! He could have left the car running with the heat on, hell even let the window down a bit, or just waited until someone else showed up and then put her in his car. Definately file a complaint, he needs to have something on his record to show past behavior or future. I can see why you want ot strangle her, that's unfair to her kids and to you.
Nope they were all traffice that went to warrants, FTA, driving on suspension, speeding and as to why she didnt pay them well I have been on here now for that for many yrs, at least my babies were ok, but cold idiots. They could of let her sit there with them and wait. She is out now, pretrial released her this morning, so I dont have to worry about that. I know I should let her stew in her own juices, but thats my kids, my parents never did that with any of us and I cant do it, but she does know that I wont put up with the bull crap
The same thing happened to my neighbor a few years ago. He missed paying a traffic ticket and a warrant went to for his arrest. They arrested him at his home in from of his family, cuffed him and place him in jail until his wife bailed him out. I don't blame police officers since they are just following protocol. It’s really up to us to try change the law when it comes down to it. Sorry that you and your family had to go through this.
I blame police and the people. People who take government jobs that torment the people who pay their salary I have issues with. Brutality cases, no knock raids, searches etc. are in violation to the Constitution that they have sworn to uphold and defend. Im not saying that all police are bad and that all of their work is bad, but most of what I see from the police is causing distress to tax paying citizens for making minor infractions that cause no real harm. The people who empower them to do this crap are ultimatly responsible. When you sit there and watch an episode of cops where peoples rights according to the Bill of Rights are being violated and it doesnt totally urk you is where the problem lies.
OK, if you see an LEO like that, they are often young, new to the squad, and gung-ho that theyve got arresting powers and a set of silver bracelets (and for some the gun...)
Best example: A friend of mine who works for an Ambulance company was trasporting a psych pt to the ER (this girl was suicidal and bent on drugs), a young, over-zealous officer pulled them over because they were using the carpool lane. The officer ended up writing them a ticket in the back of the rig, and stalled them for 8 mins WITH A PATIENT ONBOARD! Ridiculous.
Now as for the situation at hand - I can see someone getting a set of matching silver bracelets due to traffic violations if:
They blew a red light/stop-sign that cuased an MVA
They falsified tags.
They were driving recklessly.
DUI/DWI
Excessive speeds - 20+ mph over posted limit.
Unpaid tickets.
Failure to appear for traffic court.
The car was a rolling hazard.
If your daughter did any of these, Im sorry but I have to side with PD on the charge and the need to arrest the violator. But at the same time the officer should have been thinking about the children in the back. Again if I were the officer on scene I would have had the car towed into the car pound, make the violator responsible for all costs of towing and holding fees. Have mom sit up front with me (with hands cuffed behind her, buckle her in.) and put the kids in the back with their appropriate child seats. Everyone goes with me, mom gets put in holding cell with other women or by herself (I woudnt put a woman with a man), and let the two kids sit with me at the station, enjoy some hot cocoa, maybe a snack, and wait for grandmother to arrive, let grandmother know what the bail was set at, if she so chooses to bail.
Again if I were the grandmother, I would get court records on the duaghter (these are public) and get a full list of all violations. If it was failure to appear, false tags, reckless driving, DUI/DWI, stuff of that nature then, she would have to figure her own way out. If it was just an overzealous officer then I would bail, file a complaint, get it settled, and tell the duaghter to make sure she never lets it happen again if it does shes on her own.
Remember there is always 3 sides to each story, the offense, defense, and what really happened.
-Dix
Best example: A friend of mine who works for an Ambulance company was trasporting a psych pt to the ER (this girl was suicidal and bent on drugs), a young, over-zealous officer pulled them over because they were using the carpool lane. The officer ended up writing them a ticket in the back of the rig, and stalled them for 8 mins WITH A PATIENT ONBOARD! Ridiculous.
Now as for the situation at hand - I can see someone getting a set of matching silver bracelets due to traffic violations if:
They blew a red light/stop-sign that cuased an MVA
They falsified tags.
They were driving recklessly.
DUI/DWI
Excessive speeds - 20+ mph over posted limit.
Unpaid tickets.
Failure to appear for traffic court.
The car was a rolling hazard.
If your daughter did any of these, Im sorry but I have to side with PD on the charge and the need to arrest the violator. But at the same time the officer should have been thinking about the children in the back. Again if I were the officer on scene I would have had the car towed into the car pound, make the violator responsible for all costs of towing and holding fees. Have mom sit up front with me (with hands cuffed behind her, buckle her in.) and put the kids in the back with their appropriate child seats. Everyone goes with me, mom gets put in holding cell with other women or by herself (I woudnt put a woman with a man), and let the two kids sit with me at the station, enjoy some hot cocoa, maybe a snack, and wait for grandmother to arrive, let grandmother know what the bail was set at, if she so chooses to bail.
Again if I were the grandmother, I would get court records on the duaghter (these are public) and get a full list of all violations. If it was failure to appear, false tags, reckless driving, DUI/DWI, stuff of that nature then, she would have to figure her own way out. If it was just an overzealous officer then I would bail, file a complaint, get it settled, and tell the duaghter to make sure she never lets it happen again if it does shes on her own.
Remember there is always 3 sides to each story, the offense, defense, and what really happened.
-Dix
Someone breaks the law........then blames the cops. When will someone start taking responsibility for their own actions?
If your license is suspended don't drive. Go to your court dates. Pay your Fines. Pretty simple really.
We honor the policemen that died on 9-11, but then blame them the rest of the year??
I wish I could hear the cops side of all these stories I read about on this forum.
If your license is suspended don't drive. Go to your court dates. Pay your Fines. Pretty simple really.
We honor the policemen that died on 9-11, but then blame them the rest of the year??
I wish I could hear the cops side of all these stories I read about on this forum.
I think the biggest issue is how the babies were treated. Your daughter messed up, hopefully she will learn from this. But to leave the babies in a car with no heat was wrong. Was anyone in the car with them or watching them?
In our little town we have some pretty decent policemen. We have one state cop who was trained in Chicago area, worked there a few years then was moved to this area. Very unlikeable guy. He has pulled over a firetruck for speeding when enroute to a fire and gave a ticket. The city has made complaints and at one point the guy was not allowed in this area. The chief of police said they start their carreers in a big bad city then come to a small rural area like this and still act as if they are dealing with Chicago. So yes, there are problem policemen in areas.
In our little town we have some pretty decent policemen. We have one state cop who was trained in Chicago area, worked there a few years then was moved to this area. Very unlikeable guy. He has pulled over a firetruck for speeding when enroute to a fire and gave a ticket. The city has made complaints and at one point the guy was not allowed in this area. The chief of police said they start their carreers in a big bad city then come to a small rural area like this and still act as if they are dealing with Chicago. So yes, there are problem policemen in areas.
I think that's the textbook definition of "jackass cop". 
Question, why did the firetruck stop? If I had been the driver, I would have just kept right on going.
I do appreciate our boys in blue for what they put up with 365 days of the year, but the traffic boys sometimes get on a powertrip and don't know when to quit.
That being said, I was seriously considering a career with one of the local police departments before I got my current job. I think I would still like to work with a K-9 unit one day.
Question, why did the firetruck stop? If I had been the driver, I would have just kept right on going.I do appreciate our boys in blue for what they put up with 365 days of the year, but the traffic boys sometimes get on a powertrip and don't know when to quit.
That being said, I was seriously considering a career with one of the local police departments before I got my current job. I think I would still like to work with a K-9 unit one day.
I am not disagreeing at all, she is the one who didnt pay the fines, and she is the one who is responsible. She was heading home from picking up the kids at my house, got home and her entire complex was without power, she went to the store to get candles so she could see, they didnt pull her over right away, ran her plates and found her warrants. I was more concerned for their lack of concern for the babies in the car. To leave them in there with no heat, their mom cuffed for as long as they did, that is what has my feathers ruffled. I am hoping that this was an eye opener for her.
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Yeah but what caused them to run her plates? I can't see some cop being so bored to just randomly see a car and run their plates... I could be wrong but I would imagine she would have had to have committed some sort of infraction to cause the cop to be suspicious enough to run the plates in the first place...
Nope it was close to bar closing time, accross the street is a popular rest. that is the after clug hangout, she pulled in to the 711 to get gas, he pulled in along side her, when she left she was pulled over. I even asked the officer, and she didnt do anything wrong to have her pulled over except for the warrants that came up, I was on the phone with her when the officer came to the door, she asked him what she did, all he said is please your license, insurance and reg. There was no infraction. There were 4 cars there when I pulled up, I have all the respect in the world for the men and women who partol our community to make it safer, dont get me wrong, and yes there are some pretty ticket happy ones out there to, she is responsible for her actions, plain and simple like I said I just want to strangle her
I was with Daniel one day in his truck and a bike cop decided to run his plates, realized his tags were expired and wrote him a honking big ticket, even though it truly wasn't Daniels' fault. The truck is a lease, so the tags go by the dealerships name, not his, which he didn't know...and the new tags were most likely sent out right when he was in the middle of moving to his new place and the stupid mailman didn't bother to start delivering his mail until three weeks later.
He paid the ticket, but now there's another week where he can't afford to buy groceries for himself.
He paid the ticket, but now there's another week where he can't afford to buy groceries for himself.