I agree with Bush !
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Well let me ask you this. Do you know the other two verses? There's more to the Star Spangled Banner than just the first verse (the one everyone knows, or should know).
And, in my opinion, to move to a country, get citizenship, but yet still pledge your allegiance to another country, is just...weird.
And, in my opinion, to move to a country, get citizenship, but yet still pledge your allegiance to another country, is just...weird.
right there with ya.
i think it's really sad how in most other countries people can speak multiple languages, and here in the US we get our panties constantly in a wad that those dreaded mexicans can't speak "our language" when we don't even have an official language.
when i was in europe *everybody* there spoke english. i spoke like 6 words of german (not including swear words haha) and less of french. it was embarrassing to be a dumb american. i wish we had the emphasis on being multi-lingual here in our schools that they do in other places in the world.
i think it's really sad how in most other countries people can speak multiple languages, and here in the US we get our panties constantly in a wad that those dreaded mexicans can't speak "our language" when we don't even have an official language.
when i was in europe *everybody* there spoke english. i spoke like 6 words of german (not including swear words haha) and less of french. it was embarrassing to be a dumb american. i wish we had the emphasis on being multi-lingual here in our schools that they do in other places in the world.
Well, in Europe they speak multiple languages because they're the "United States of Europe" and each "state" (country) has their own language. Here in the good ole U S of A we have multiple states but ONE language. The Mexicans coming across the border, most time ILLEGALLY, should learn ENGLISH. When in Rome... gawd, even the FDA is mandating that all packaging of goods be bi-lingual. I don't agree with it at all.
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Even a clock that is broken is right once a day . . . 
Personally, I think The Star Spangled Banner is a horrible national anthem and should be retired. A song about war set to the tune of a bawdy British pub song
I've always thought that America the Beautiful eloquently depicted what America should aspire to.
Personally, I think The Star Spangled Banner is a horrible national anthem and should be retired. A song about war set to the tune of a bawdy British pub song
I've always thought that America the Beautiful eloquently depicted what America should aspire to.
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Wow, lots of resentment today, how bout picking up a Spanish book, taking a little responsibility upon yourself and learn another language. There may just be a day when your life depends on it.
Maybe its just me, but almost every latino i come in contact with that has been in the states for a period of more than 2 years can speak well enough english to carry on a conversation, so this notion of none of them being able to speak english is a little rediculous.
And some need to maybe pick up a history book. This country was built on cheap laborers, the irish, the polish, the chinese and now mexicans. Our country would be in really sad shape if we shipped them all out of here. You guys think you have things to complain about now, just wait.
Well back to history, when the first immigrants came over they didn't know how to speak english either. You had huge pockets of people speaking their native languages at home, at the store and at work, especially in the larger cities like new york and chicago. Most never learned to do anymore than speak some english, and most never learned to read english. But they were "your" ancestors so that makes it OK? Immigrants younger children and their offspring were the ones that really learned english.
I don't see how this is any different. Like I said, anybody that i know that has been here for 2 years or more can speak more than adequate english. Sure they speak spanish at home and when they're with friends, its what they know best. Their younger children and offspring born here are the ones that really have a grasp on the language, just like all the generations of immigrants before the Latinos. maybe its time to put a little responsibility on yourself if you can't communicate with everyone and learn something besides english. It seems to be the norm everywhere else but here in America most people would rather waste time complaining.
As for changing the words to the national anthem, last I checked we only had one anthem, and one flag.
Maybe its just me, but almost every latino i come in contact with that has been in the states for a period of more than 2 years can speak well enough english to carry on a conversation, so this notion of none of them being able to speak english is a little rediculous.
And some need to maybe pick up a history book. This country was built on cheap laborers, the irish, the polish, the chinese and now mexicans. Our country would be in really sad shape if we shipped them all out of here. You guys think you have things to complain about now, just wait.
Well back to history, when the first immigrants came over they didn't know how to speak english either. You had huge pockets of people speaking their native languages at home, at the store and at work, especially in the larger cities like new york and chicago. Most never learned to do anymore than speak some english, and most never learned to read english. But they were "your" ancestors so that makes it OK? Immigrants younger children and their offspring were the ones that really learned english.
I don't see how this is any different. Like I said, anybody that i know that has been here for 2 years or more can speak more than adequate english. Sure they speak spanish at home and when they're with friends, its what they know best. Their younger children and offspring born here are the ones that really have a grasp on the language, just like all the generations of immigrants before the Latinos. maybe its time to put a little responsibility on yourself if you can't communicate with everyone and learn something besides english. It seems to be the norm everywhere else but here in America most people would rather waste time complaining.
As for changing the words to the national anthem, last I checked we only had one anthem, and one flag.
I don't see how it is weird that I live in one country, but still love and stay connected to the country I grew up in and spent almost my entire life. Deep in my heart, Germany is still my HOME. If I didn't have the choice to keep my German passport, I would not try to become a US citizen (and I have to say that is mainly because of jobs). I love the US, I like living here...but if it wasn't for my husband, I would not stay here.
People in Europe learn English because it is the world language...wherever you go, people from all over the world will most likely communicate in English. Yes, we also have to learn other languages ( I chose Latin first, had it for 4 and a half years, and then French for 2 years, Russian for one)...but like someone said..that's because of geographical conditions.
In my opinion, it does not matter where you are...you should adapt to the customs in another country. Some may seem weird, but you'll get used to everything. At least TRY...I don't think anybody will rip a Mexicans head off if he can't speak properly.
When I lived in Turkey for awhile, I had a hard time first...especially when clashing with some "old" very traditional folks. And yes, sometimes I had to act obedient to old male family members...did I like it, growing up in a modern world of equal rights? No...but if I would have acted up and behaved like an equated individual, I would have been rude and disrespectful.
If you want to live somewhere else, for whatever reasons you should respect that country.
People in Europe learn English because it is the world language...wherever you go, people from all over the world will most likely communicate in English. Yes, we also have to learn other languages ( I chose Latin first, had it for 4 and a half years, and then French for 2 years, Russian for one)...but like someone said..that's because of geographical conditions.
In my opinion, it does not matter where you are...you should adapt to the customs in another country. Some may seem weird, but you'll get used to everything. At least TRY...I don't think anybody will rip a Mexicans head off if he can't speak properly.
When I lived in Turkey for awhile, I had a hard time first...especially when clashing with some "old" very traditional folks. And yes, sometimes I had to act obedient to old male family members...did I like it, growing up in a modern world of equal rights? No...but if I would have acted up and behaved like an equated individual, I would have been rude and disrespectful.
If you want to live somewhere else, for whatever reasons you should respect that country.
Whatz . . . You might find this article interesting. http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=491&row=0
He does a lot of thought-provoking writing. He also does a great deal of research and fact checking. Even if you don't completely agree with his points, you're not left with the feeling that you're being manipulated and palliated. And you've got things to think about.
He does a lot of thought-provoking writing. He also does a great deal of research and fact checking. Even if you don't completely agree with his points, you're not left with the feeling that you're being manipulated and palliated. And you've got things to think about.
