how to stop vicios growling

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A professional trainer is definitely what she needs. I don't know how old you are, but like otch1 said, you're obviously not in a position to make the decisions for the dog, your parents are. No matter how much you want to help your dog.

The dog needs to see a professional trainer/behaviorist, In order to find the real problem and real solution. Otherwise, it sounds like you could possibly have a liability on your hands. For example, your dog is out walking with you, and slips off the lead, or maybe gets out of your yard. If your dog is truly aggressive, or dominant aggressive, then she may go attack somebody or something that provokes her unintentionally. Or possibly somebody could corner her accidentally, if she's fearful aggressive. Then you have a lawsuit on your hands, where you lose lots, and lots, and lots of money. And your dog will be put down.

Perhaps, maybe you can take a video of your dog doing what you're describing, and then somebody can try to analyze it here? That would be no replacement for professional help, but it's better than nothing.
 

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Does your local library have good dog books? If so grab books by people like Ian Dunbar, Suzanne Clothier, Jean Donaldson, (I am sure there are others) and see if you can get your parents to read them.

I agree that a trainer is very important. But I think while you convice your parents you need to keep your dog away from others, learn as much as you can on your own (here, books and by just watching other dogs), you already learned not to grab your dogs muzzle =o)
 
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Thank you guys for all your help!
I will tape a video I have another border collie and they fight all the time likie bitting each others neck and other things. She dosent like little children she dosent like stangers at all. I new a friend for about 8 years and she still dosent like her and same with a friend that i known for 1 year and still dosent like her.I think it is fear bitting and but My friend jessica she has a Bitch and when she is near victoria water bowl she growls and tries to bite.
 

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i'd get her to a trainer ASAP, if your dog is aggressive towards people, particularily children, if she gets too close and DOES bite someone then she'll get put down.

also, when the dogs "fight' are they playing or actually fighting? are they both the same gender? and are they desexed? dog fights are never fun and the lat thing you need is one of your dogs getting hurt
 
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Well I dont know if they are play fighting beacasue i never let her get into dog fights. Yes she is spayed but my other one isnt beacasue he is doing shows:] I will find her body stuctures today at agility!
 

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I'd recommend a trainer ASAP. This doesn't sound normal. I would also rule out nothing is wrong or causing her pain -- vet visit. Border Collies are social dogs. They will not act (like bitting or getting into a fight) unless they feel threatened, by anyone.

I think by holding her mouth and yelling at her when she growls, it's just made it VERY worse.

What are your parent's saying out this? Are they willing to do anything to help her? Has her growling/bitting just gotten worse, or has it always been the same?
 
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Well my parents think she is fine! she is very atteched to me over this year and everytime I try to pet a dog i have to give her to my mom or she will growl! She wagges her tail and growls and then the tail stops when the dog looks at her!
 

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Hmm, I think this is too serious to handle over the internet. You really need a trainer/behaviourist. If left untreated you could have some serious damage done to a child/adult/dog.
 
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Ok Thank you!
I will see her action when she growls and tell you I will try to keep her attetion be a sceakie tennies ball and see if that works.
I really want to help her!
 

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