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King Pup

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King Pup - I believe there are VERY few dogs who will actually hold their urine if the situation got incredibly uncomfortable. As for holding it so long that they can't go straight away... Now you're just suggesting that my dogs are victims of cruelty. They are in no rush to even TRY to urinate when I get home... it's not as though they are rushing out, attempting to urinate, and are unable to do so because of your reasoning. In addition - they don't urinate for an extended period, as though they've been holding urine all day. My dogs drink sparingly before I leave for work after they've pottied in the morning.
It just sounds like you're getting defensive unnecessarily. I'm simply stating biological facts, quite impartially. Put it this way. On the days they're in the crate for 12 hours, imagine you come home halfway through that time and let them out. Do you think they would take the opportunity to pee? I bet they would! I think as a general rule of thumb it's safe to say that creatures are at their most comfortable when they have the opportunity to go to the bathroom whenever they want. And they would probably feel more comfortable if they weren't crated and were free to move around at will. Nobody's saying they're in great pain or that you're making them suffer, it's just that under ideal circumstances, a dog will go to the bathroom way more often than once every 12 hours.
 

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Well, if everyone owned dogs under "ideal" circumstances the world would be a MUCH different place! I don't know that I am getting defensive... I just have a harsh way of speaking.

And, most importantly, my dogs are crated for their safety. Bukra, my Saluki, is the only dog who isn't destructive if left loose in the house. So, he is left loose. However, that means that EVERY other dog I own must be secured because a) they would tear something up and b) it's one of the top 5 rules of Pit bull ownership to NOT leave your dog loose and unattended with other dogs. I'd rather have a dog inconveniently, by human standards, crated for awhile than to come home to one or two injured/dying/dead dog/s.
 

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Well, if everyone owned dogs under "ideal" circumstances the world would be a MUCH different place! I don't know that I am getting defensive... I just have a harsh way of speaking.

And, most importantly, my dogs are crated for their safety. Bukra, my Saluki, is the only dog who isn't destructive if left loose in the house. So, he is left loose. However, that means that EVERY other dog I own must be secured because a) they would tear something up and b) it's one of the top 5 rules of Pit bull ownership to NOT leave your dog loose and unattended with other dogs. I'd rather have a dog inconveniently, by human standards, crated for awhile than to come home to one or two injured/dying/dead dog/s.
So what you're saying is that pit bulls are potentially dangerous dogs. I happen to agree with you due to years of experience - but of course you know there are people who would swear blind that they're no more dangerous than any other dog. This however is another subject.

Of course few dog owners have ideal circumstances. But on the other hand, that isn't the dog's fault. Couldn't you just crate the pit bull and fence off the others in the kitchen? I feel that if dogs are going to be left alone for a long time (i.e. 8hrs+) then it's best to give them as much room to stretch as possible.
 

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