How did your breed do last year?

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  1. _netpup_

    _netpup_ Heel Nipper

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    http://www.atts.org/statistics.html

    Some of these numbers really surprised me.
    I'm so glad the Chow Chow did so well, and the Fila as well.
    And REALLY glad the APBT had a great score of 83%, considering the 100% were mostly if not all very rare breeds that there were only 1-3 of.
     
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    From the ATT's website:

    Aggression here is checked against the breed standard and the dog's training.

    A hint as to why some 'surprising' breeds did well. They essentially got graded on a curve.
     
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    Renee750il Felurian

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    There is a special temperament test for the Fila, Casa, so you're right. Filas will fail if they show fear and if they do not at least stand in the face of a threat. They are expected to advance and neutralize the threat if they have the true Fila temperament though. A Fila must not flinch at gunfire, and, ideally, will go toward the source and do their best to disarm the shooter. It takes nerves of steel to be the person out there doing the Fila temperament test, lol!

    So, if the correct temperament test was administered to the Filas, then this is a good sign that the true Fila temperament isn't being ruined. However, if the same standardized test was administered to the Fila as the rest of the breeds, then it's HORRIBLE news! It shows that the Fila breed is being ruined.
     
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    tested-90
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    I recognize that, and it's the reason I find this test odd. They allow for the reality of type and training in the testing, but then they pretend that the tests are an equal, fair evaluation of all breeds in general. This is ludicrous. Either you test them evenly, which means that you're going to inevitably be working against some dogs, or you admit that testing fairly within the breed/type/training is going to return results that make it look as if Filas were
    equal to a Golden in terms of having a good temperament. Which may be true, but there's considerably more there to be explained, which is why I dislike seeing temperament tests used to 'prove' the worth of breeds.

    And I also find some of their testing to be skewed toward the more sedate breeds, and unpersuasive. When did it become a major test of a good dog that they would not be reactive? I realize that many people involved in temperament debates these days are passionate defenders of the rather stolid mastiff types, and I'm a fan of the highly excitable collies and terriers, so I'm a little prejudiced here. But I've seen way too many non-reactive dogs who were highly aggressive to be convinced that the calmer the dog, the safer he/she is.
     
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    LABRADOR RETRIEVER 676 tested 618 passed 58 failed 91.4%
    as far as numbers go. labs had the most tested and the pass rate for the number of dogs tested is the best that I saw when looking through other breeds with similar amount of dogs tested. The only ones who got a higher percentage had very few tested.
    Not too shabby.
     
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    Renee750il Felurian

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    You're right. That can be very deceiving. Where your excitable-type dogs are barking and doing what excitable dogs do when they confront a problematic situation, the calm, seemingly non-reactive dog may simply be sizing things up and waiting for the right moment to "solve" the problem . . . or keep the "problem's" attention focused on it so its partner can come in unannounced.

    The most fair and useful collation of test results would be to take tests devised to measure a certain breed or type of dog's character and temperament as recognized by the breed organizations and fully explain what was really being tested for.
     
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    BELGIAN TERVUREN

    Tested: 406
    Passed: 313
    Failed: 93
    Percent:77.1 %

    Wow am I ever surprised!! My Belgian did better then the Shelties~! lol

    SHETLAND SHEEPDOG

    Tested: 465
    Passed: 311
    Failed: 154
    Percent: 66.9%
     
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    I really want to get the boys tested!!!!
     
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    jess2416 Who woulda thought

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    Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever:

    Tested - 13
    Passed - 8
    Failed - 5
    Percentage - 61.5%

    They did alright, but not as well as I would've expected.
     
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    Lol...felt like doing the Rottweiler also since I live with one, but accidentally clicked reply instead of edit..

    Rottweiler:

    Tested - 4650
    Passed - 3834
    Failed - 816
    Percentage - 82.5%
     
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    lol, welsh springer 5 tested 5 passed, behold the amount of welsh springers, lol
     
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    border terrier

    tested 98
    passed 88
    failed 10
    percent 89.8%
     
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    Tested: 352
    Passed: 298
    Failed: 54
    Percent: 84.7%
     
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    colliewog Collies&Terriers, Oh My!

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    I am proud to say that we've been testing our dogs since the early 80s and never had one fail. :)
     
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    Red_ACD_for_me Ruled by a RED boy!

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    ACD 78.1% tested 160, passed 125, They failed 35 :eek:
     
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    Labrador Retriever 676 618 58 91.4%
     
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    AusCatDogs_4Ever but please call me Aus.

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