house training panther

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Well i got panthr 2 weeks ago almost hes 9 weeks old sunday and hes a black lab full blood. I been taking him out tons but he wont tell me for anything when he has to go. I started using a blanket and had him tied so he couldnt get off it thinking its where he sleeps so he wouldnt go on it and would tell me to take him well that haset worked either. So now im trying to crate train him see how that works out i have read alot of info here so far. He sleeps on the bed sometimes and today he even went on it right after he came in from going potty.
 

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Keep in mind that 9 weeks old is still extremely young, and two weeks is not a long time at all when you're talking about potty training. I'd definately suggest reading some of the stickies on this chazhound, there are many good tips about potty training and crate training.
 
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I recommend definitely crate training. That will really help. Make sure the crate is big enough for him to stand up, turn around, and lay down in comfortable. Any bigger, and he will probably have an accident in there. If he does have an accident in his crate, clean it up immediately. Otherwise, he will get used to sleeping in it, and it won't bother him any more.

As for housetraining, keep him on a schedule. Raja never told me when she had to go, either. One time, she was drinking water and squatted and peed and kept drinking. She never gave notice. lol So, I would feed and water him at scheduled times during the day. Take him out 20-30 minutes after he eats, as soon as he wakes up from a nap, after a play session, and also every hour. Keep him in sight AT ALL TIMES. If you have to, put his leash on him and clip it to your belt loop or something. Potty training can be very hard when they don't give you signals, but it is possible. Try not to get too frustrated.

Oh, and if he has an accident inside, just say "NO!" or "AAH!" or clap or something so he stops long enough for you to get to him. Then, pick him up and take him outside. EVERY single time he goes to the bathroom outside, make a huge deal out of it. Do a little happy dance and praise him like it's the greatest thing in the entire world. lol
 

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I recommend definitely crate training. That will really help. Make sure the crate is big enough for him to stand up, turn around, and lay down in comfortable. Any bigger, and he will probably have an accident in there. If he does have an accident in his crate, clean it up immediately. Otherwise, he will get used to sleeping in it, and it won't bother him any more.

As for housetraining, keep him on a schedule. Raja never told me when she had to go, either. One time, she was drinking water and squatted and peed and kept drinking. She never gave notice. lol So, I would feed and water him at scheduled times during the day. Take him out 20-30 minutes after he eats, as soon as he wakes up from a nap, after a play session, and also every hour. Keep him in sight AT ALL TIMES. If you have to, put his leash on him and clip it to your belt loop or something. Potty training can be very hard when they don't give you signals, but it is possible. Try not to get too frustrated.

Oh, and if he has an accident inside, just say "NO!" or "AAH!" or clap or something so he stops long enough for you to get to him. Then, pick him up and take him outside. EVERY single time he goes to the bathroom outside, make a huge deal out of it. Do a little happy dance and praise him like it's the greatest thing in the entire world. lol
Thats pretty much what i been doing every time i take him out first thing he does is try to go pee then poop. I started out even not leaving water out but someone told me labs need to drink alot so i been leaving it out for him. I been praising him tons when he goes outside and trying to remmber to take a treat with me to give to him when he goes out to.
 

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it will take time. Its like potty training a child. Some pick it up faster than others. Make sure not to get angry and to watch carefully.
 
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Well, you don't have to only give him water when he eats. But still keep it scheduled. Just remember to take him out about 20-30 minutes after you give him some. If he has an accident before then, don't wait as long next time.
 

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And remember the whole thing is a learning experience for you and for him. Before you got him he was used to going where ever when ever. lol I had a husky who gave me no signals ever. He would just go. He had to go almost every 30 minutes. And I rationed his water intake, didn't make a bit of difference. My lab/husky was scraping at the door after being with us for two days.

A vet told me once that puppies really can't hold their bladders until almost 3 or 4 months of age. So most of all be patient. And if you watch carefully you will begin to noticed the little signs that they have to go.

And if you don't catch them in the act, don't correct them. They have already forgotten and won't know what you are talking about.

My only other word of caution is to be careful not to overdue the time in a crate, being that he is so young. Make it a plesant expience with something to chew on or play with.

Good luck and patience. Most of all enjoy your new puppy. It is over in a flash. lol
 

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Well he was doing real good last 2 days and i turned my head for 20s and he peed on the carpet only a small amount but he did.
 
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Your puppy is an INFANT. Puppies at 9 weeks old are JUST beginning to learn to be able to control bodily functions. They are like a 2YO. When they feel they have to go, they have to go RIGHT THEN.

You MUST STOP having negative thoughts and feelings about your puppy making mistakes in the house.

Instead, make it treat time and a praise party when he goes outside.

There are stickies on this forum about house training, go read 'em! :D
 

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Ya im trying not to get mad at him when he does it in the house i just put him in the kennel and clean it up and spray some floor stuff that covers smells. He was in the kennel for 3 hrs today while i was out of town and he didnt go at all held it till i got home to take him out.
 

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There is a great sticky on house training! ;)

Couldn't this get put up as a sticky? So many requests for housetraining....

House Training

House training your dog is simple if you follow a few basic rules.

1) The puppy must have NO time unsupervised in your home. NONE.
If you are not directly watching the puppy, it should be in the
crate, or outside in a safe area. You MUST watch the puppy at ALL
times when loose in the house. Use baby gates, crates, or tie the
leash to your belt.

2) The puppy should sleep inside the crate by your bedside.
This way you can hear if the puppy should happen to need to go out
during the night.

3) You must go WITH the puppy outside for ALL trips for
elimination. You must have treats with you. When the puppy is
urinating, say "GO PEE PEE" in a nice praise tone of voice the entire
time. When she is finished, pop the treat into her mouth at once, and
praise praise praise. This should be something she gets at no other
time, like tiny pieces of string cheese or boiled chicken. Same for
defecation. Say "GO POOP" while she is going, and food reward and
praise afterwards. You must observe and reward ALL outdoor potty time.

4) Keep a schedule. Feed at the same time, and walk outside at
the same times. Your pup needs at least 4 trips outdoors each day,
and 5 is probably better. Pup needs to go out at wake up time, lunch
time, 4-5 PM, after dinner or any other meals, and before bed.

5) Use a key word each time you go out. I say "Let's go out!!"
in a happy tone of voice each time I'm opening the door to go out with the dog.

6) If you catch the puppy IN THE ACT of eliminating in your
house, CLAP YOUR HANDS, say AH AH, OUTSIDE!! And immediately rush her
outside. If she finishes there, do your usual food reward and praise.

The keys to getting your dog reliably housetrained are:

SUPERVISION: NO loose time in the house if you are not watching

REWARDS: ALL outdoor elimination MUST be observed
and rewarded. If you only do this ONE thing, your puppy will get housetrained.

PATIENCE: Anger and punishment have no place in dog
training. Elimination is a natural and pleasurable experience for
your dog. You can teach her to not soil your house, but punishment
will NOT help. It will only teach the dog to hide when she needs to eliminate.

If you have applied these techniques carefully for 4 weeks and you are still finding spots or piles after the fact, it's time for stronger measures. Roll up a newspaper and fasten both ends with a rubber band. Keep it handy. The very next time you find a spot of a pile that the dog has left behind, whip out that newspaper, and hit YOURSELF over the head firmly several times as you repeat "I FORGOT TO WATCH MY PUPPY".
Works every time.

:D
 

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Ya i been going by that sticky i have panther attached to my leg and look over at him every few mins. When we go i take a treat now and feed him it right after he does his business.
 

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That's great that he was able to stay in his crate for three hours and no accidents! That can be a long time for a little guy. It just takes time and a lot of patience. You just got to bite your tougue and clean it up. I thought I was going to pull all my hair out when my male husky didn't seem to be catching on as quickly as my female lab did. Every dog is different and some take longer than others. There is no quick fix and time and practice and lots of praise for the good things he does will make a world of difference. Just don't give up. Remember even for a dog he is only a baby and look how long babies stay in diapers before they can ever begin to think about using a toilet. It can be frustrating, but keep on doing what your suppose to and it will all pay off in the end.
 

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Hes doing pretty good right now hes tells me when he has to go now not 99% of time but id say 85% of time he tells me by either barking or crying and looking at me. I just let him out and watch him from the door now and he goes and does his thing and comes back to the door for me to let him in.
 

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Well a update hes getting real good when hes around me he tells me but when hes around others in the house he don't tell them lol he just goes.
 

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Thks for all the help here panther is now about 95% potty trained only time he has issues is when he gets really excited.
 
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Thks for all the help here panther is now about 95% potty trained only time he has issues is when he gets really excited.
Excellent news!!! Congrats on your success with housetraining Panther!! :)
He will get better with those occassional accidents due to over-excitedness ... once he matures a little bit more. You and he did great!!

Wish everyone was as open-minded as you have been with the newer, more positive methods for housetraining!! Obviously it works, as you have discovered, and works more quickly than very old-fashioned punitive methods.
 

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Ya he does great dont even crate him at night time now hes left to run loose in my room and if he has to go he barks at me to wake me up. Funny thing when hes loose in the house when he has to go he runs to our front door and jumps at the knob to open it. And same thing with storm door but he has got it open a few times and went out lol.
 

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