Her name is Vendetta.
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I guess so...
I can't really talk, I haven't gotten a puppy from a byb or puppymiller since I learned about them, and have no plans on it, I'm strictly a good breeder, or rescue gal, but I just don't feel like it should be made such a big deal. She'll probably need help with this pup, why scare her away when there's nothing that can be done now?
I can't really talk, I haven't gotten a puppy from a byb or puppymiller since I learned about them, and have no plans on it, I'm strictly a good breeder, or rescue gal, but I just don't feel like it should be made such a big deal. She'll probably need help with this pup, why scare her away when there's nothing that can be done now?
Why should she be scared? No one has been unkind or judgemental in this thread. Most everyone has expressed their best wishes and hope for a happy relationship with her new puppy. Most have expressed delight in the picture of her new puppy and that they look forward to more.
Lots of us have gotten dogs from bybs. So how could we be judgemental? I, myself bought two dogs this way and that caused two shelter dogs to remain locked up, a concept that never occurred to me. I was glad though, to learn the ramifications from dog forums like this, to get a broader sense of the concept even though I felt foolish and guilty. I learned to avoid and not repeat that hasty and impulsive method of acquiring a dog in the future.
To put a brick wall between one's self and enlightenment is something I'll never understand. To resist education in lieu of a guagmire of apathy and an imagined persecution is self defeating.
Lots of us have gotten dogs from bybs. So how could we be judgemental? I, myself bought two dogs this way and that caused two shelter dogs to remain locked up, a concept that never occurred to me. I was glad though, to learn the ramifications from dog forums like this, to get a broader sense of the concept even though I felt foolish and guilty. I learned to avoid and not repeat that hasty and impulsive method of acquiring a dog in the future.
To put a brick wall between one's self and enlightenment is something I'll never understand. To resist education in lieu of a guagmire of apathy and an imagined persecution is self defeating.
She IS adorable and I'm glad that she's getting a good home and that she'll be enjoyed. Really I am. I just like to see people "get it" while they go on enjoying their dog so that the next time they get a dog, they consider what's going on and how they can be a small part toward a solution. That's all.
Doberluv, I get it, just thought the posts about BYBs and puppymills were a little much. She has said she knows about them...
Maybe it takes a byb or puppymill dog to really make it sink in? I know after I learned more about what Zoey probably came out of, I was sick that the thought, but that didn't make me love my puppy less.
I've enjoyed seeing what your opinion is, Doberluv.
Maybe it takes a byb or puppymill dog to really make it sink in? I know after I learned more about what Zoey probably came out of, I was sick that the thought, but that didn't make me love my puppy less.
I've enjoyed seeing what your opinion is, Doberluv.
*sigh* There are back Yard breeders because people want cheap puppies. Most don't know ANYTHING about what dog they are getting and a lot of those dogs end up in the shelter system anyway. There's a BC I want to adopt from the shelter... someone gave her to someone else as a present and when she stopped being a cute little puppy, she got chained in the backyard. GRRR...
Anyway, the important thing is EDUCATION. DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE you get a dog. Is it high energy? Is it intense? Requires a lot of grooming? Big? Small? What are you in for? If all of us spent our time educating those of our friends and aquaintances BEFORE they got puppies, then those people could educate their friends and we could put a stop to animals cycling through the shelter systems because people are unprepared for what they bought or were given and then the shelters could put their time and energies into what they are REALLY there for -- separating abusees from abusers, healing them and then finding them loving homes.
She has a home and she'll be happy. Happy, healthy puppy is all that matters and if you don't know what her lines are.... don't breed her. That's my two cents.
Just FYI.... my mom was what most of you would probably call a back yard breeder... I helped with three or four litters of BC puppies. Ours were always guarenteed... if for ANY reason you didn't want the dog... we will take the dog back, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. One of ours came back to us because they hadn't figured a 45 pound dog could clear a six foot fence and had had several unknown pregnancies because they also failed to spay her. One out of like 30 isn't too bad though. She stayed with us for a year or so and we spayed her and found someone who REALLY wanted her and understood her. We only bred the dogs with the breed standard though.... the looks and the personality. It is possible to be non-professional and still be responsible.
Anyway, the important thing is EDUCATION. DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE you get a dog. Is it high energy? Is it intense? Requires a lot of grooming? Big? Small? What are you in for? If all of us spent our time educating those of our friends and aquaintances BEFORE they got puppies, then those people could educate their friends and we could put a stop to animals cycling through the shelter systems because people are unprepared for what they bought or were given and then the shelters could put their time and energies into what they are REALLY there for -- separating abusees from abusers, healing them and then finding them loving homes.
She has a home and she'll be happy. Happy, healthy puppy is all that matters and if you don't know what her lines are.... don't breed her. That's my two cents.
Just FYI.... my mom was what most of you would probably call a back yard breeder... I helped with three or four litters of BC puppies. Ours were always guarenteed... if for ANY reason you didn't want the dog... we will take the dog back, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. One of ours came back to us because they hadn't figured a 45 pound dog could clear a six foot fence and had had several unknown pregnancies because they also failed to spay her. One out of like 30 isn't too bad though. She stayed with us for a year or so and we spayed her and found someone who REALLY wanted her and understood her. We only bred the dogs with the breed standard though.... the looks and the personality. It is possible to be non-professional and still be responsible.
AP...The fact that my two Chi's came from a byb doesn't make me love them less either. That's not the point though. Of course we love our dogs no matter where they come from. And I wouldn't trade them in for anything. But I have learned to be more judicial in the future about who I get my dogs from.
Some good points Phoenix about knowing what the breed characteristics are before choosing a dog. In the case of an unknown mix, all anyone can do is the best they can.
A professional is anyone who makes money doing what they do. So, that isn't really an apt way to make a distinction between a reputable breeder or an unreputable breeder. When you say you only bred to standard and personality, how did you determine the standard? There are all kinds of things "responsible" breeders do before breeding. Just about all purebred dogs have some kind of genetic malady or health issues. There are genetic health tests that can be performed for some of those things. Some of those include DNA testing, x-rays for hips and elbows, eye problems. (very expensive)There are organizations where these things are sent in and assessed and recorded, such as OFA for hips. There are scores for some of these things. Ancestors' histories are analyzed several generations back and compared. They look at longevity and what the dogs died of. What did they accomplish? Were they good at the job they were bred to do?
Lots of thought goes into matching up pairs. One dog might be just a tad too short for the breed standard but everything else (health, temperament, something else) is really good. So, they find a mate that may be a better size that might off set that, yet maybe that dog has a teensy fault somewhere else. No dog is perfect. It's a real study to find just the right match in order to strive to eliminate some of the health issues or temperament flaws or improve on conformation etc. Only the creme of the crop should be bred, dogs that have proven themselves and have proof. There's a lot more that I don't even know. But I do know that it takes more than meets the eye to improve upon the last generation or improve the breed as a whole. If a breeding isn't going to add anything to the breed as a whole, then it shouldn't take place. There are plenty enough breeders who know what they're doing and put the time and money into the science. We just don't need soooooo many more dogs.
The "back yard breeder" I went to for my Chi's, I think meant well. The dogs were well cared for. I could tell she loved them. She seemed to do some things right. However, she did not breed responsibly. I didn't know what to ask her at the time, but I'm quite certain she didn't do any of those things I mentioned. I wouldn't be surprised if Jose`'s father was an alien visitor or the post man. Seriously...he is so funny looking (but soooo cute) and such bad knees. And what a great personality he has! I love him dearly, so much it makes my heart ache and he's added so much to my life. But again, that is not the point.
When you say that she is happy and has a good home and that's all that matters, well, yes...that's all that matters now with this particular puppy and this owner. But looking at the whole spectrum of things, that is not all that matters. All those other puppies out there suffering in puppy mills matter and when we aren't careful who we buy from if we do know better... or we don't want to take it all in, this whole big picture, it does matter. It keeps those puppy mills and other milder forms of that going, keeps those puppies pumping out. It matters a lot. But I won't harp on it anymore.
Some good points Phoenix about knowing what the breed characteristics are before choosing a dog. In the case of an unknown mix, all anyone can do is the best they can.
A professional is anyone who makes money doing what they do. So, that isn't really an apt way to make a distinction between a reputable breeder or an unreputable breeder. When you say you only bred to standard and personality, how did you determine the standard? There are all kinds of things "responsible" breeders do before breeding. Just about all purebred dogs have some kind of genetic malady or health issues. There are genetic health tests that can be performed for some of those things. Some of those include DNA testing, x-rays for hips and elbows, eye problems. (very expensive)There are organizations where these things are sent in and assessed and recorded, such as OFA for hips. There are scores for some of these things. Ancestors' histories are analyzed several generations back and compared. They look at longevity and what the dogs died of. What did they accomplish? Were they good at the job they were bred to do?
Lots of thought goes into matching up pairs. One dog might be just a tad too short for the breed standard but everything else (health, temperament, something else) is really good. So, they find a mate that may be a better size that might off set that, yet maybe that dog has a teensy fault somewhere else. No dog is perfect. It's a real study to find just the right match in order to strive to eliminate some of the health issues or temperament flaws or improve on conformation etc. Only the creme of the crop should be bred, dogs that have proven themselves and have proof. There's a lot more that I don't even know. But I do know that it takes more than meets the eye to improve upon the last generation or improve the breed as a whole. If a breeding isn't going to add anything to the breed as a whole, then it shouldn't take place. There are plenty enough breeders who know what they're doing and put the time and money into the science. We just don't need soooooo many more dogs.
The "back yard breeder" I went to for my Chi's, I think meant well. The dogs were well cared for. I could tell she loved them. She seemed to do some things right. However, she did not breed responsibly. I didn't know what to ask her at the time, but I'm quite certain she didn't do any of those things I mentioned. I wouldn't be surprised if Jose`'s father was an alien visitor or the post man. Seriously...he is so funny looking (but soooo cute) and such bad knees. And what a great personality he has! I love him dearly, so much it makes my heart ache and he's added so much to my life. But again, that is not the point.
When you say that she is happy and has a good home and that's all that matters, well, yes...that's all that matters now with this particular puppy and this owner. But looking at the whole spectrum of things, that is not all that matters. All those other puppies out there suffering in puppy mills matter and when we aren't careful who we buy from if we do know better... or we don't want to take it all in, this whole big picture, it does matter. It keeps those puppy mills and other milder forms of that going, keeps those puppies pumping out. It matters a lot. But I won't harp on it anymore.
I have been lurking here deciding if the people on this board were the type of people that I would enjoy chatting with. I am thinking NOT
It is unfathomable t me that someone comes here and introduces a new pup and becomes chastised for “not getting itâ€. I think there are a couple of heavy posters here that “don’t get it†I am strong advocate for Pit Bulls and I am a long time rescues worker. And what I see here are some people who livening utopia!
How much rescue work have you preachy folks done? “WALK AWAY†Wow, How brave of you.
OP congratulations on your new pup! Love her and treat her right and you will have a friend for life. She is AWSOME and Jazzy!
To the others get out there and get dirty and I dare you to become involved in the community where the back yard pit bulls are breed. I think most of you would be afraid to even drive through let alone get out and do some work. Then if you want to “walk away†from a pup that you had a chance to save for $50….I pray for your soul.
The over population problem has never been as exasperated by the back yard breeder who pays for an add in the news paper. It had always been the supply and demand at the PET STORE. Educating people on NOT purchasing from a pet store is relatively new. That’s how I can tell you are ALL â€newbie’sâ€
Lobby you congressional leaders to change the laws regarding the breeding, transport and sale of domesticated pets, launch a local or regional add campaign to make other more knowledgeable. Then when you feel the need to preach to someone you could direct them to this well thought-out and hopefully “accurate†educational materials instead of driving people away.
It is unfathomable t me that someone comes here and introduces a new pup and becomes chastised for “not getting itâ€. I think there are a couple of heavy posters here that “don’t get it†I am strong advocate for Pit Bulls and I am a long time rescues worker. And what I see here are some people who livening utopia!
How much rescue work have you preachy folks done? “WALK AWAY†Wow, How brave of you.
OP congratulations on your new pup! Love her and treat her right and you will have a friend for life. She is AWSOME and Jazzy!
To the others get out there and get dirty and I dare you to become involved in the community where the back yard pit bulls are breed. I think most of you would be afraid to even drive through let alone get out and do some work. Then if you want to “walk away†from a pup that you had a chance to save for $50….I pray for your soul.
The over population problem has never been as exasperated by the back yard breeder who pays for an add in the news paper. It had always been the supply and demand at the PET STORE. Educating people on NOT purchasing from a pet store is relatively new. That’s how I can tell you are ALL â€newbie’sâ€
Lobby you congressional leaders to change the laws regarding the breeding, transport and sale of domesticated pets, launch a local or regional add campaign to make other more knowledgeable. Then when you feel the need to preach to someone you could direct them to this well thought-out and hopefully “accurate†educational materials instead of driving people away.
So Jaanty, let me get this straight. You believe all the peddlers supplying dogs to pet stores should be tarred and feathered for their actions, but it's ok for the peddler selling his dogs in the newspapers or by sitting out in their vehicle in a parking lot somewhere.
I'm getting more & more baffled by the hypocrisy here. "GET RID OF THE PET OVERPOPULATION PROBLEM! RESCUE A DOG!" but yet "Way to go on buying a dog from a back yard breeder who know can concentrate on his next unwanted litter of genetically defunct dogs!".
Either you support back yard breeders & peddlers or you don't. Either you approve of it or you don't. There is NO room for situational circumstances. And don't slap yourself on the back for a job well done when in fact YOU are a part of the problem in the first place! Get off your throne.
Oh, & we only have a single pet store in this tri-parish area that sells dogs. So you're telling me the number of dogs they sell far outnumbers the 2 pages of dog ads in our local newspaper on a daily basis? I don't think so.
And to the op, I hope you do right by this dog. I hope this dog does right by the "pit bull" breeds. A goal of SAR is an amazing one and I hope to see it accomplished.
But the fact remains that by buying this dog, the breeder was helped out and can now focus on selling off the next crummy litter he's going to produce. And I'm stuck having to be the bad guy and trying to clean up everyone's messes (in the form of fighting against BSL).
I'm getting more & more baffled by the hypocrisy here. "GET RID OF THE PET OVERPOPULATION PROBLEM! RESCUE A DOG!" but yet "Way to go on buying a dog from a back yard breeder who know can concentrate on his next unwanted litter of genetically defunct dogs!".
Either you support back yard breeders & peddlers or you don't. Either you approve of it or you don't. There is NO room for situational circumstances. And don't slap yourself on the back for a job well done when in fact YOU are a part of the problem in the first place! Get off your throne.
Oh, & we only have a single pet store in this tri-parish area that sells dogs. So you're telling me the number of dogs they sell far outnumbers the 2 pages of dog ads in our local newspaper on a daily basis? I don't think so.
And to the op, I hope you do right by this dog. I hope this dog does right by the "pit bull" breeds. A goal of SAR is an amazing one and I hope to see it accomplished.
But the fact remains that by buying this dog, the breeder was helped out and can now focus on selling off the next crummy litter he's going to produce. And I'm stuck having to be the bad guy and trying to clean up everyone's messes (in the form of fighting against BSL).
Exactly Mikoda.
Jaanty....who the hell are you? Here you are...new here, I presume after considerable lurking and announce who does and who does not have anything to do with rescue or helping in shelters. Where do you get your information?
Get one thing straight, since it appears you didn't read the thread with much cognition. NO ONE WAS BLAMING OR CHASTISING THE O.P, who apparently didn't know any better just as has been the case many, many times on this forum! That was reiterated many times over. Other people who experienced the same thing on this forum didn't go running off, slamming doors and plugging their ears to keep out information. She was congratulated on her new puppy, treated kindly and absolutely non-judgementally. She was wished all the best with this puppy. Why do you people have such an aversion to information and education?
Who was being chastised were back yard breeders and puppy millers. As far as anyone contributing to their livlihood and ability to continue producing genetically inferrior dogs by purchasing their dogs, what was said here was NOT blaming or chastising. It was to inform. Are you so against educating the public? Do you really think that to go after these disgusting mills and shoddy back yard puppy producers from one angle and one angle only (the government? what a joke!) is all that needs to be done? Just WHO is is that you think keeps those people fed, surviving and reproducing? Not only litters and litters of puppies, but reproducing their own offspring who grow up following in their parents' footsteps. Extinction doesn't exist with nourishment.
Jaanty....who the hell are you? Here you are...new here, I presume after considerable lurking and announce who does and who does not have anything to do with rescue or helping in shelters. Where do you get your information?
Get one thing straight, since it appears you didn't read the thread with much cognition. NO ONE WAS BLAMING OR CHASTISING THE O.P, who apparently didn't know any better just as has been the case many, many times on this forum! That was reiterated many times over. Other people who experienced the same thing on this forum didn't go running off, slamming doors and plugging their ears to keep out information. She was congratulated on her new puppy, treated kindly and absolutely non-judgementally. She was wished all the best with this puppy. Why do you people have such an aversion to information and education?
Who was being chastised were back yard breeders and puppy millers. As far as anyone contributing to their livlihood and ability to continue producing genetically inferrior dogs by purchasing their dogs, what was said here was NOT blaming or chastising. It was to inform. Are you so against educating the public? Do you really think that to go after these disgusting mills and shoddy back yard puppy producers from one angle and one angle only (the government? what a joke!) is all that needs to be done? Just WHO is is that you think keeps those people fed, surviving and reproducing? Not only litters and litters of puppies, but reproducing their own offspring who grow up following in their parents' footsteps. Extinction doesn't exist with nourishment.
Just found this thread today, but I did read through the entire thing and frankly, it's been enlightening and dissappointing at the same time.
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I'm glad that you did have a guarantee on your puppies. That's definately the first step towards becoming a good breeder.
Several unknown pregnancies? One, I can understand, maybe they didn't realize how old a dog is when it can become pregnant; so have one litter and then get it spayed. But several? If she had three litters, and each litter had 8 puppies, that's THIRTY TWO puppies that this dog produced that were most likely out of breed standard, if not mixes. So it's great that you only bred dogs that were in breed standard, but what about the additional 30+ dogs that you also produced that were not breed standard? And I highly doubt this was the only one of your puppies that went on to produce a litter....
I'm saying this not only to try to educate the registered members reading and commenting on this thread, but also to try to educate the other dozens and dozens of lurkers who may never have heard of the difference between a back yard breeder and a reputable breeder.
What do we say about dog trainers who let fights happen in their classes? Or groomers who abuse dogs on their table? Or vets who miss obvious illnesses or give bad advice? We tell you not to go back, and try to educate you on how to find a good dog professional versus a bad one. How is this any different? A breeder's MISSION should be to produce dogs that fit some breed standard and are good representatives of the breed, and then to put those puppies in homes that are also going to respect the breed standard (by not breeding the puppy outside of standard) and help mold that puppy into a good representative. If a breeder doesn't do that, I don't care how cute the puppies are that they produced, we should not be supporting the breeder by giving them money.
I do work in rescue. I go to shelters at least once a month, and the dogs I train 40 hours a week are all shelter/rescue dogs. When I go into a shelter to evaluate dogs for our program, I will look at at least 500 dogs before I find one to bring home. I look 500 dogs in the eye and tell them that they have to stay here in this filthy, tiny cage because someone ignorant put them there. I know what it's like to say no.
The other day I saw a truck parked on the side of the road with a "Chihuahuas for sale" sign, and I broke down and cried. It's certainly not the first truck on the side of the road I've seen (and it wasn't the only one in that parking lot, either!), but I guess it hit me harder because I have a chi, and I said no to three adorable chis in the shelter the week before. I cried, but did I turn my car around? Pull into the parking lot and go see the puppies? Ask the guy how much? NO! That's how you say no - you just turn away and keep driving!
Only one comment at the moment:
I'm glad that you did have a guarantee on your puppies. That's definately the first step towards becoming a good breeder.
Several unknown pregnancies? One, I can understand, maybe they didn't realize how old a dog is when it can become pregnant; so have one litter and then get it spayed. But several? If she had three litters, and each litter had 8 puppies, that's THIRTY TWO puppies that this dog produced that were most likely out of breed standard, if not mixes. So it's great that you only bred dogs that were in breed standard, but what about the additional 30+ dogs that you also produced that were not breed standard? And I highly doubt this was the only one of your puppies that went on to produce a litter....
I'm saying this not only to try to educate the registered members reading and commenting on this thread, but also to try to educate the other dozens and dozens of lurkers who may never have heard of the difference between a back yard breeder and a reputable breeder.
What do we say about dog trainers who let fights happen in their classes? Or groomers who abuse dogs on their table? Or vets who miss obvious illnesses or give bad advice? We tell you not to go back, and try to educate you on how to find a good dog professional versus a bad one. How is this any different? A breeder's MISSION should be to produce dogs that fit some breed standard and are good representatives of the breed, and then to put those puppies in homes that are also going to respect the breed standard (by not breeding the puppy outside of standard) and help mold that puppy into a good representative. If a breeder doesn't do that, I don't care how cute the puppies are that they produced, we should not be supporting the breeder by giving them money.
I do work in rescue. I go to shelters at least once a month, and the dogs I train 40 hours a week are all shelter/rescue dogs. When I go into a shelter to evaluate dogs for our program, I will look at at least 500 dogs before I find one to bring home. I look 500 dogs in the eye and tell them that they have to stay here in this filthy, tiny cage because someone ignorant put them there. I know what it's like to say no.
The other day I saw a truck parked on the side of the road with a "Chihuahuas for sale" sign, and I broke down and cried. It's certainly not the first truck on the side of the road I've seen (and it wasn't the only one in that parking lot, either!), but I guess it hit me harder because I have a chi, and I said no to three adorable chis in the shelter the week before. I cried, but did I turn my car around? Pull into the parking lot and go see the puppies? Ask the guy how much? NO! That's how you say no - you just turn away and keep driving!
Pet stores get their puppies from not only puppy mills, but back yard breeders as well, who end up being stuck with some puppies that didn't sell. The pet store gets a percentage and so does the breeder. I use to frequent a pet store for my aquarium supplies. The last time I was there, I noticed several cages with puppies in them for sale...$300, $350. I asked where these came from, why they were selling them. And I was told they came from "local "breeders." I told them what I thought about that and never went back to that pet store. So the pet store is giving these breeders reason to continue and the public who buys them from the pet store is giving both the pet store and the "breeder" a reason to continue pumping out puppies like auto parts on a conveyor belt. Sad.
So I called you out …………..WHAT DO YOU DO or WHAT HAVE YOU DONE for animal rescue? I think you do nothing other than sit at your computer and preach when YOU think someone makes a mistake. 10000, 18000, 26000 posts, oh come on, when would you ever get any real work done?
When you work in the world you learn that it is NOT black and white. Only the person who sits and does nothing sees the world in black in white. The laborer, the person that makes a difference, knows there is no black and white only 99 shades of gray.
Its like saying there is no use in sending food to Ethiopia because they will just have more children to starve latter anyway. Oh maybe you do think that way, maybe compassion is what a couple of you on this board is missing. Hmmm animal lovers without compassion …interesting.
When you work in the world you learn that it is NOT black and white. Only the person who sits and does nothing sees the world in black in white. The laborer, the person that makes a difference, knows there is no black and white only 99 shades of gray.
Its like saying there is no use in sending food to Ethiopia because they will just have more children to starve latter anyway. Oh maybe you do think that way, maybe compassion is what a couple of you on this board is missing. Hmmm animal lovers without compassion …interesting.
Oh you're hilarious.
Did you ever stop to think how many of those posts were CROSS POSTING rescue animals for greater exposure? How many were asking questions on how to foster, how to bust puppymills, how to shut down petstores? Advice on how best to choose a dog for your family and educating about responsible breeders vs. shelters vs. breed rescues vs. the BYB's and mills in order to reduce the amount of pets being tossed aside out of poor planning? No, I don't think you did. I think you're sitting on your side of the screen feeling smug and superior for no good reason and not actually reading the threads that show what Chazhound is all about.
I am so flat-ass broke right now that I maybe get to eat one meal a day and that's usually only because I work at a restaurant where I get my meals for free or half off. And yet I gladly and willingly give of my time and what little money I do have in order to run transport legs around the Midwest and Central Plains. I've spent a year fostering a very difficult Lab who has been returned to me TWICE, depsite the fact everyone said I was crazy to do so, that I barely have money to live on myself, never mind the two dogs I have. But, and maybe this is my "lack of compassion" showing here, I feel a responsibility to this dog I pulled out out of a shelter and to my other dog I adopted from ARPH and so we manage.
Just remember that when you point a finger at someone, there are three pointing back at yourself.
Did you ever stop to think how many of those posts were CROSS POSTING rescue animals for greater exposure? How many were asking questions on how to foster, how to bust puppymills, how to shut down petstores? Advice on how best to choose a dog for your family and educating about responsible breeders vs. shelters vs. breed rescues vs. the BYB's and mills in order to reduce the amount of pets being tossed aside out of poor planning? No, I don't think you did. I think you're sitting on your side of the screen feeling smug and superior for no good reason and not actually reading the threads that show what Chazhound is all about.
I am so flat-ass broke right now that I maybe get to eat one meal a day and that's usually only because I work at a restaurant where I get my meals for free or half off. And yet I gladly and willingly give of my time and what little money I do have in order to run transport legs around the Midwest and Central Plains. I've spent a year fostering a very difficult Lab who has been returned to me TWICE, depsite the fact everyone said I was crazy to do so, that I barely have money to live on myself, never mind the two dogs I have. But, and maybe this is my "lack of compassion" showing here, I feel a responsibility to this dog I pulled out out of a shelter and to my other dog I adopted from ARPH and so we manage.
Just remember that when you point a finger at someone, there are three pointing back at yourself.