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Hello everyone,

This may get kind of long, but I'll be as brief as possible. I acquired a 5-6 mo. old puppy last August named Leo. Leo is a long haired shaggy mixed breed dog--the vet believes he's a terrier mix, and he sure does act like it! He is a very very busy boy. He's about a year old now, and I ended up bringing him home to my parents, as I am a full time student in a relatively small apt, and Leo definitely needs a fenced yard. Long story short, he lives with a 5 yr old (very well behaved) lab mix, and a 13 yr old bulldog. He and the lab mix adore playing with each other and spend a lot of time in the yard together. Leo also goes to the dog park for 1-2 hrs every day. He's not a very food-motivated dog, and obedience training has proven very difficult for both me and my parents. Mom has enrolled Leo in training classes that start early March. Ultimately, the two biggest obstacles my parents face with him are: 1) Leo eats EVERYTHING and ANYTHING that he comes across, from toilet paper, to books, magazines, mom's yarn (she knits), shoes, dog beds...for this problem, traditional advice has not worked. Leo has learned the "leave it" command, but appears to ignore it when he's got a highly prized object that doesn't belong to him. He has a small basket of toys that are rotated to avoid boredom, mom watches him like a hawk and often catches him in the act of ruining something, the shake can fails to startle him (In fact, he's stolen it off the table before to chew on it!), and the squirt bottle of water fails to phase him. And there just isn't enough bitter apple spray in the world to keep him away from all the possessions he likes to steal..but we've tried it. If caught chewing a forbidden possession, Mom removes it with a firm "no" and replaces it with a dog toy. I know chewing can be due to his young age, and he's a very immature one year old, but this just can't go on! He ate a twenty dollar bill the other day off dad's nightstand! Is there something we're missing? Anybody have any creative alternatives for stopping this chewing behavior? (I know this is very long so far....almost done!)
Problem 2 is: he antagonizes the senior bulldog by biting her feet and barking at her incessantly. If kept on leash in the house, the bulldog takes advantage and will bother him back. If not on leash, Leo gets crated with a chewtoy to redirect his energy (vet's recommendation). Often, he'll get let out of his crate after about 15-20 minutes, and he'll go right back to antagonizing bulldog. Does anybody have any ways to deal with these behavioral issues? We're at a loss. Mom and dad both adore him, but he is challenging for them, and as Leo was mine, I feel somewhat responsible for his behavior and I'd like to help them restore harmony to their household. Thank you for reading this lengthy post.....any and all suggestions will be entertained and appreciated!!

~Rachel
 

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you said he knows the "leave it" command, what objects will he leave when asked? To make sure he will obey the command in all situations you have to train him in all situations. Start with whatever objects he will leave on command and work up. As the things you ask him to leave get more enticing so should the reward, upgrade treats, sliced hot dog tends to work well. Also the can does not work and neither does the spray bottle so stop using them, they are not bad enough to overcome the joy of chewing these things, you have to make not chewing these things BETTER than chewing them. Many people take for granted all the opportunities to reward. If you drop something and he sniffs and then ignores it, praise him with a treat, most people never miss scolding but ignore the reward. Also when you take what he is chewing make sure you give him his own toy, and if he gives it up willingly and without a chase, give him a yummy treat. I also suggest getting the book "The Culture Clash" by Jean Donaldson it is about how dogs think and learn and has great training advice. Good Luck! others will be along soon with more help.
 

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Leo will leave objects that don't necessarily belong to him or my parents, but that they prefer he not chew, such as sticks. If mom is walking him, and he picks up a stick, she'll say leave it and he'll drop it. Really "juicy" items like her magazines, books, etc.- he grabs those in his mouth and runs with them. Rather than chase, mom will wait until he lays down and starts chewing his prize and then she'll say leave it and draw his attention to one of his own toys. The advice about upgrading the treats sounds promising....I appreciate your help!

~Rachel
 

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Sounds like he's bored. How much exercise is he getting and what kind of toys do you give him?
 

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He gets a 45-60 min.walk per day plus 1-2 hrs at the dog park, weather permitting. He gets a few toys at a time..usually a marrow bone with peanut butter frozen inside, a few stuffed toys with squeakers, and a rope toy. They're rotated so he doesn't get bored with them, but he always has a few toys appropriate for chewing and a few appropriate for fetch. Is it possible that his chewing anything and everything could be an attention-seeking behavior? I think the plan as of now with him is to start teaching the "leave it " command all over again with treats in hand, and progress from there.
 
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I would say what you are missing is careful confinement. This dog should NEVER be out of your sight when he is loose in your house.

I would use baby gates, crates, or leash him to your belt.

PREVENT his making mistakes, and keep reinforcing him for using his own toys.

I would recommend you read this thread in the puppy section about Why Your Puppy Needs A Toy Box

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You may want to look at the JW line of interactive toys. My dogs love them and they amuse them for hours.

He actually just sounds like a high-energy bored pup. I have one of those an the only way to really control it is to keep an eye on them and make sure you put everything away so it can't be chewed. Garbage cans go under the sink. Toilet paper goes in a cupboard. Magazines aren't left out. At a year he's going to be very curious. You can train and train but if he's left to do these things the rewards he gives himself are likely to override the rewards you try to give him when you train. Sounds like he's a smart dog :)

I would not crate him as punishment. Not even if your vet recommended it. It should be a fun place for your dog not a timeout place. If you are having problems with him then that's where he should be. In a crate (or puppy-proof room) full of fun toys until you can supervise him. A good dog is a tired dog who is not left unsupervised to do any damage ;)
 

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Crating him with a toy isn't supposed to be punishment, and isn't treated like punishment...he's not disciplined or sternly talked to and then thrown in there...the fact is, Leo, like I said, is a very busy pup, and watching him 24/7 is simply impractical. Typical scenario: mom is trying to get dinner on the table, dad is headed home from work. Leo will start barking and nipping the bulldog, who is 13 and awfully crotchety and intolerant. Without reprimand or praise, mom will get a tasty chewtoy--kong, nylabone, etc--and place it and the dog in his crate. Is this incorrect? He only spends about 15 minutes in there in such an instance because mom can't watch him and cook dinner...to me it seems logical because while he is crated, he can't be engaging in unacceptable behaviors. Dad, mom, and myself are all experienced dog people, but none of us have ever experienced a dog that could be this high energy and this bored after getting an ample amount of exercise!

I appreciate everybody's comments and suggestions...keep 'em comin!

Thanks,
Rachel
 

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No, you're right with the crating then. He should also be crated whenever he isn't supervised. Or possibly outside if it's secure. As for exercise, well, high-energy dogs need more than an hour a day. I know it's hard to do. You might want to consider a chuck it and some other toys that will get him moving. My Nanook takes more than an hour to burn off her energy. Actually, I can't remember her actually getting that tired. Thankfully, she's old enough to know how to contain it and doesn't damage the house lol
 

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He gets 2-3 hours a day of exercise really.....45 min-60 min. walk daily and 1-2 hours running with other dogs at the dog park. I guess it's simply not enough for him. Thanks again to everybody who responded....I feel much more well-equipped to handle this pup's energy and behavior.

~Rachel
 

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