heartworms

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  1. dogsarebetter

    dogsarebetter EVIL SHELTIES!!!!

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    what is a safe medication for shelties to prevent heart worms?
    how important is it to have a preventitive?
     
  2. elegy

    elegy overdogged

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    interceptor is generally safe in collie breeds. heartgard is not.

    how much you need it depends on where you live. ask your vet.
     
  3. dogsarebetter

    dogsarebetter EVIL SHELTIES!!!!

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    thank you.
    my vet doesnt know shelties/collies well, so i mainly needed the name of the safe one
     
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    bubbatd Moderator

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    Has nothing to do with the breed . Your pup needs a blood check and if clear I recommend Interceptor too .
     
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    squirtsmom New Member

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    We rescued a Great Pyranese 3 years ago and when we got her and vet checked, she had heart worms. They couldn't treat her because of their advancement. 2 years later we had to put her down, and it was HORRIBLE. I never miss Squirt's or Jessica's preventative. Never want to go through that again.
     
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    bubbatd Moderator

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    I've put 3 rescue foster dogs through the treatment ........ it can be done , but believe me a never miss a month either ! Cheaper to prevent than cure !
     
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    Actually, it has EVERYTHING to do with the breed when it comes to collies! Collies can not tolerate the ivermectin family of drugs and that is why Heartguard and Iverheart are not safe in collies. I don't think Revolution is either. If you read the packaging, it will usually warn against use in collie breeds.
     
  8. Zoom

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    Showpug beat me to it. Aussies fall into the "collie breeds" categories as far as worming medications go, so this was something I learned early on.
     
  9. colliewog

    colliewog Collies&Terriers, Oh My!

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    Actually, the type of preventative used does depend on the breed. Certain herding breeds (esp. Collies and Aussies) can have severe reactions - including death - to ivermectin and related drugs.

    Edit: I see we answered at the same time! lol

    The reason for drug sensitivity is a mutant gene (called MDR1) that allows drugs to pass the blood-brain barrier. http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-VCPL/ or http://www.awca.net/drug.htm

    Affected breeds - most current data http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/research/canine/projects/mdr1b/
     
  10. Mordy

    Mordy Quigleyfied

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    Small note:

    Collies, Shelties and Aussies aside, the MDR1 mutation has also been found in Old English Sheepdogs, German Shepherds, Long-haired Whippets, Silken Windhounds, and a variety of mixed breed dogs.

    Article:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5518665
     
  11. GlassOnion

    GlassOnion Thanks, and Gig 'em.

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    Revolution uses Selamectin so no, it probably shouldn't be used either.

    But revolution doesn't work all that well in dogs anyhow. Great for cats though. Shame they're not near as prone to HW lol.
     
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    Whoops !!! Live and learn !!
     
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    My pup is on Interceptor and the Vet charges me 6.50 per pill. Sounds cheap enough. Does anyone pay more or less? I'm going to check online to see if I can save that way.
     
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    GlassOnion Thanks, and Gig 'em.

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    Should be cheaper than that. That's what we charge per pill. If they buy the box it's about 3-4 per pill.
     
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    interceptor is cheaper. it is sentinel minus the flea "birth control" (doesn't kill fleas, just makes the adult ones sterile). same company, same everything else.
     
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    GlassOnion Thanks, and Gig 'em.

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    If you already use Advantage then sentinel is a waste of money.

    But else wise it can be...decent flea control. Just as advantage won't kill the eggs, sentinel won't kill the adults. If you really wanted to you could use both for complete flea control on your animal.


    Best flea control is to use an adult flea killer and then simple sanitation after that to kill eggs. Any eggs that do hatch will die on the host.
     
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    I thought the OP was asking about Heartworm preventative, not flea control. Sentinel wont help with Heartworm.
     
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    GlassOnion Thanks, and Gig 'em.

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    I thought the topic shifted from HW control to flea prevention?
     
  20. Herschel

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    Come on, people. Do some reading!

    Indications

    SENTINEL is an oral tablet for the prevention and control of flea populations, the prevention of heartworm (Dirofilaria immitis) disease and the treatment and control of roundworms (Toxocara canis, Toxascaris leonina), hookworms (Ancylostoma caninum) and whipworms (Trichuris vulpis) in dogs.

    From the original link that I posted:
    http://www.ah.novartis.com/products/en/cab/sentinel.shtml

    Elegy,
    I agree with you. If the flea preventative isn't desired, then Interceptor is a great choice.
    http://www.ah.novartis.com/products/en/cab/interceptor.shtml

    Both are safe for Collies. That was the original question in this thread.
     

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