GRRR They are RUINING the Breed!

[SizzleDog]

Okay, I'm not naming names here for fear of being sued or harassed... but OH. MY. GAWD. A breeder (of medium sized, stereotypically black and white herding dogs) I know is repeating a breeding of a litter that produced puppy cataracts, severe shoulder instability, horrible skittish temperaments and epilepsy.... SOOO MAD!

This breeder has gobs of titles on her dogs (mostly the type of title a dog gets by jumping over a bunch of hurdles and grabbing a tennis ball, if you get my drift), but also has CDs and novice Agility titles on the dogs as well.

This is the same breeder that told me she wanted a dobe, but would "beat any aggression out of it". Same breeder whose dogs are robots, and shy away from her. Same breeder who sold a dog to a lady who the breeder KNEW was going to keep the dog in the back of a car in the middle of the winter, no heat - just because the lady "really wanted her" and the breeder needed to get rid of her. Same breeder who tells her puppy buyers that her lines aren't sensitive to ivermectin (even though this breed and ivermectin do NOT mix!). Same breeder who left a senior, epileptic dog in my backyard (without my permission) in a chain link run with a 6 week old puppy... in the middle of a lightning storm - and was furious to learn that I'd brought both dogs inside to prevent death by seizures, exposure, or electrocution.


GRRRRR so so so so so mad right now - and people PRAISE this beeder for all the "good work" she does with her dogs! Bull cr@p! THIS is the type of breeder that is RUINING this particular breed.....


.... and here's the kicker. She's a vet. She, of all people, should know better.

GRRRRRRR.......

 

[RD]

I remember you telling me about this whackjob. How disappointing. She should know better...

And... It's so sad that these are the dogs that are in the public eye far more than the truly good representatives of the breed. I can't tell you how many people have been surprised that my dogs have such kind, loving temperaments and aren't bouncing off the walls 24/7. Makes me sad, because BCs have such awesome personalities when they're allowed to be dogs and not forced into being robots.

 

[Sada]

Agreed. I can't stand this particular breeder. I have never met her, but from what you have told me and from what I have seen of the dog that a friend of ours has, I can't believe she would do a breeding like this again.

 

[LilyoftheValley]

Im so sorry sizzle. This must be really frusterating for you. And I do agree, a vet of all people should know better.

 

[2BlackDogs]

WOW. Some peope. And a vet of all people.

 

[ihartgonzo]

Gosh... how sad. =( Most people are not suited for this breed, anyway - much less horribly bred dogs of this breed. It really breaks my heart to hear about abused Border Collies. It does for any breed, of course, but Border Collies are such soft dogs, and they want to please their owner so badly. Rough treatment can just ruin these dogs.

I also know a HORRENDOUS breeder of medium-sized black and white "herding" dogs; except, her dogs lack every shred of ability to "herd"... every shred of biddability and intelligence all together, in fact. At least her dogs are lazy... er, manageable... but she is nonetheless doing a huge dis-service to the entire breed as a whole.

It really worries me. Sometimes, I wish these dogs weren't as fantastic as they are, because so many bad people take advantage of that, when they have no business with this breed. They are already one of the most common dogs to turn up in shelters... and I'm sure this lady's lines will be popping up in shelters in no time.

 

[Doberman mommy]

Wow I was reading this and thinking how awful it was, then I got to the part where this person is a VET? Are you Fin' kidding me? What kind of vet is that? That just blows my mind.

 

[Zoom]

There are, sadly, many vets that don't seem to understand how they are contributing to the problem.

 

[MisssAshby]

I'm sorry.

I am amazed by how vets treat their animals. We left two of our animals with out vet for a short time (reptiles) and when we went back to claim them because they were almost dead.

It's a never ending battle to try to save our breeds that we love so much.

 

[RD]

But come ON, you would think that after years of being a vet and seeing the health problems that run rampant in badly bred dogs, that you'd at least be very conscious of the health of your own dogs. =/ And maybe if you have a shred of observation skills, you'd realize that some of these dogs have so many problems because of GENETICS!

 

[Hillside]

Is this the breeder of the dog I also met when I met Ronin?

 

[Lizmo]

Ugh, that makes me so sad! Could you PM the website to me?

I don't understand some people, ruining such a great breed. Hate it.

 

[RedHotDobe]

Same breeder who left a senior, epileptic dog in my backyard (without my permission) in a chain link run with a 6 week old puppy... in the middle of a lightning storm - and was furious to learn that I'd brought both dogs inside to prevent death by seizures, exposure, or electrocution.

I remember that. That poor dog. Why did she even dump the dog in our backyard? I just remember seeing a second puppy hastily being dropped off.

Then there's Motion and Karma (was that her name?) and their owners.

She really is doing a huge disservice to the breed. And the dogs are her innocent victims.

But come ON, you would think that after years of being a vet and seeing the health problems that run rampant in badly bred dogs, that you'd at least be very conscious of the health of your own dogs. =/ And maybe if you have a shred of observation skills, you'd realize that some of these dogs have so many problems because of GENETICS!

Maybe she figures that because she's a vet, she can do no wrong. She may see it every day, but she's better than the regular dog owners who come in - she's a vet. I'm sure she thinks she isn't someone who is contributing to the problem. Some people are blind to what they may be doing, but can easily pick out the same faults in others.

 

[Groch]

This sounds awful.

If her dogs have won gobs of agility titles then it sounds like she is breeding them for this single purpose....and to heck with any other aspect of their health or temperament.

I do not know much about breeders of show dogs or agility champs, but I wonder how common this attitude is.

I had a brief chat with an Australian shepherd owner who told me that she got her beautiful purebred dog free (well, she had to pay vet bills) from a show breeder who normally euthanizes any pups that do not meet show standards (wrong coloring etc.). The breeder has a single purpose in mind, in this case shows.

Is that common? Are their a lot of single purpose breeders who discard any dogs that do not meet standards?

 

[Zoom]

Culling used to be a wider spread practice, but since people have wanted "pet-quality", mis-marked dogs are usually just neutered and placed. Now if it's a gross health issue, like a lethal white resulting from a merle-to-merle breeding, I think culling is still done in some of those cases.

Breeding for a single purpose in any breed is wrong. Everything is tied together and needs to be taken into consideration when choosing a cross.

 

[Lizmo]

Groch, I think they should discard them in the way of not using them to breed. Whether that means being s/n and sent to a pet home or continues doing agility/showing without the hopes of breeding, I think thats personal choice. This IS common in reputable breeders.

Now PTS a dog who doesn't meet standards is NOT in any way something a reputable breeder should do. The dog itself should mean more to the breeder than that.

I've met a man who does PTS a dog if it can't work properly on his farm. I dont agree with this any, and don't understand why he thinks he can just do this to a dog HE has bred.

 

[Zoom]

Lol, posted at the same time, Lizmo!

 

[adojrts]

This just proves (again) that just because someone is a professional, a successful breeder (of course that is subjective), wins and Titles, that they are no better than (even worse imo) than a byb or mill.
It is frustrating and so sad. I often wonder if they believe that they are bettering a breed or if they just don't care as long as what they are doing nets results in their favor. And the scary part is these people are often mentors to newbies .............
Good grief.

Lynn

 

[noludoru]

Ugh, that makes me so sad! Could you PM the website to me?

I don't understand some people, ruining such a great breed. Hate it.

Me too?

 

[Paige]

Golly. It's people like this that make me feel sick.